From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1PgWac-0000mS-Qx for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 06:04:47 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C72E3E0B92 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 06:04:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f181.google.com (mail-gx0-f181.google.com [209.85.161.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466CEE0A01 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 05:53:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk10 with SMTP id 10so1264138gxk.40 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:53:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rYHRisakUthoi0VpU5+ZpT4Zy73hx5zq7ZbNc75RFP8=; b=QPJFld2F04MUOV4Ly0fPaxPmkUXm/f0FWnpSYQbNoxsXaUdi71zlruxZBuliqcgUhK 2/3c9Ozm1d/WWkHnhFxHFteYUU3owIdrsHqs+PD7/OXnP154x5kWPjjvUP5XFqFPafTd pdv0sW8cD5j/LLFBrYv2bj9OWr5rjQm5VIvG0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xsiuaFJsK1ktVH7lfpBYzTM5dg3J9Xf9QPzwM/d5xWJ0tFntvUg7qfr4IXiPWXawzv BOsrIQz+wXhWviL9StoQ7Ryelz9hofkGOiYObl0iAf++jaDHRAjSVaz/Rbnb9WwqavGg CLqnJVCr/1Lx7yYKOXELk6pvYvm8CI3m8k2JU= Received: by 10.90.116.1 with SMTP id o1mr1881806agc.127.1295675635442; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:53:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-0-115-233.jan.bellsouth.net [65.0.115.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w4sm12543177anw.36.2011.01.21.21.53.53 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:53:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D3A70F0.7030905@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:53:52 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101212 Gentoo/2.0.11 SeaMonkey/2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question References: <20110121184507.GC5787@solfire> <4d39de18.4b91df0a.4e57.ffffc01e@mx.google.com> <4d3a0bb6.4b0fcc0a.2ff5.ffffe139@mx.google.com> In-Reply-To: <4d3a0bb6.4b0fcc0a.2ff5.ffffe139@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: fa17fd56b827dd00e5eef07d95226e99 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Friday 21 January 2011 11:35:06 Mark Knecht wrote: > =20 >> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann >> >> wrote: >> =20 >>> On Friday 21 January 2011 11:12:34 kashani wrote: >>> =20 >>>> On 1/21/2011 10:53 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>>> =20 >>>>> so, why are you doing soemthing incredible stupid in the first >>>>> place? >>>>> =20 >>>> How about you go have some coffee, maybe have a banana to even out t= he >>>> blood sugar, take a walk around the block, and try this email again >>>> without being a complete ass? >>>> >>>> kashani >>>> =20 >>> I am sorry that over the years I lost my patience with none-existing >>> problems. >>> =20 >> So why rip the guy a new one? You have years of experience? We don't >> know meino's experience level. He was clearly just doing experiments >> and trying to learn something. You pop up and try to push him down >> does him no good. >> >> Mom said "If you don't have anything nice to say then say nothing at a= ll". >> >> - Mark >> =20 > but: If you always ask and never research for yourself you will never l= earn. > > =20 Research doesn't always make things better. I don't even want to count=20 the number of times I have researched something, found info that doesn't=20 make sense, then ask here and find out it is not anything like that=20 anymore. All the info I found was outdated. If I can research something and find info that is recent, then that may=20 help, otherwise, I ask here and get some up to date info from some of=20 the smartest folks there is. Prime example, if I have a problem with my=20 DVD drive, I know there is a person here that will answer my questions=20 and to put it simply, if he doesn't know the answer, we all got=20 problems. Hi J=F6rg. On the other hand, we have other people on here that are good with=20 servers, networks and various other things. We also have people that=20 explain things in a simple way usually with long posts. Me and Duncan=20 come to mind here but there are others too. Hi Duncan. So, Research can be a good thing and a person can learn a lot but it=20 doesn't always answer your questions or answer them the way a persons=20 needs them to be answered. I ran into this recently with my router=20 setup. I read, even followed a howto, didn't work and didn't learn=20 anything either. Folks on here explained it and now I understand it and=20 it works VERY well for me. I don't think any amount of research would=20 have ever got me to where I am in weeks but the folks on here had me=20 running in a day or so plus I understand networks better. I had that=20 light bulb moment. ;-) Dale :-) :-)