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From: Jake Moe <jakesaddress@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Strange problem with audio CDs
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 21:16:06 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D303076.5010309@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201101131148.28680.joost@antarean.org>

On 01/13/11 20:48, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Thursday 13 January 2011 11:33:09 Jake Moe wrote:
>> On 01/13/11 18:12, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>> On Thursday 13 January 2011 07:12:48 Jake Moe wrote:
>>>> If you're talking about "proper" Audio-CD as one that's audio-only, no
>>>> mixed data in there as well, then yes, I'm sure.  And I have over 500
>>>> CDs; I can't test them all.  :-P  But yeah, a selection of CDs have all
>>>> had the same result.  And only on Linux; the same CDs have read fine
>>>> from Windows.
>>> 500, that's a bit more then I have :)
>> Heh, yeah, well I've been collecting them for around 20 years now.
>> Since shortly after they were introduced.  I stopped counting at 500.
>>
>>>> The mp3 error screenshot was trying to copy the MP3 files from the CD
>>>> through Konqueror's "audiocd:\" location to my hard drive.  I assume
>>>> Konqueror tries to auto-convert the CD tracks to MP3s on the fly.  The
>>>> log file I had attached should have been called "messages.bz2"; it's the
>>>> kernel log file.
>>> Yes, I noticed similar behaviour last time I used MS Windows to play
>>> audio- CDs. I believe MS Windows 98 (yes, that long ago) used to present
>>> them as *.WAV-files,
>> Don't know if you've ever used Konqueror, but if you go to the address
>> "audiocd:/", it gives you a load of folders like MP3 and OGG and FLAC,
>> along with a wav file for each track.  So you can either copy the files
>> as WAV, or go into one of the folders and copy out MP3, OGG, etc.  It's
>> just that Konqueror does the extraction/conversion for you.
> As far as I know, that requires the multimedia kioslaves to work. I wonder if 
> it's possible to have that use a different CDDA-tool?
>
>> Which, from memory, is different that Win98.  IIRC, Win98 used to
>> present CDs as 1KB cda files.  I could be wrong, though...
> Last time I used MS Windows at home for anything other then games was around 
> 1998 and that's quite a while ago...
>
>>>> Oh, and I only own a few CDs that have DRM on them.  And no, they
>>>> weren't the ones that I've tested.
>>> Ok, it was the first thing that came to mind.
>>>
>>> How far does "cdparanoia" get? That's the tool I generally use and it has
>>> always worked for me. Even with DRM'd CDs.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Joost
>> How very odd.  As soon as I put the CD into the drive, I get the same
>> raft of error messages in /var/log/messages.  But when I run 'cdparanoia
>> "1"', it starts outputting to cdda.wav as normal.  Now why would
>> cdparanoia work, even though the kernel doesn't seem to like the CD?
>> Does this tell us anything that might help me play the CDs?
>>
>> Jake Moe
> Can you actually play that wav-file? Or is it just a collection of garbage?
>
> As far as I know, CD-Paranoia access the cd-drive a bit more directly then 
> other tools. Eg. it approaches it like a CD-ROM, rather then CD-Audio.
>
> The error messages appear as soon as you put the CD into the drive?
> Am wondering if some auto-mounting tool is trying to access it and is causing 
> problems here.
> Do you also get those messages when you disable all KDE/Gnome/X/... and 
> related stuff?
>
> Personally, I tend to use cdparanoia and other tools to generate OGG or MP3 
> files and store them on a fileserver and play them from there.
>
> --
> Joost
>
Yeah, the wav file played fine.  At least, it started out fine; I only
listened to the first 15 - 30 seconds to make sure it sounded ok, and
then assumed the rest was fine, since nothing else had even gotten that far.

And yeah, the errors start as soon as I put the CD in the drive.  What
automounting tool might I have in FVWM?  I use a pretty basic config
(which is why I like FVWM, not many frills to muck things up :-P).

What KDE/Gnome/X stuff are you talking about?  Unless they're
auto-started by a service, I don't know of anything that'd be running
like that, especially from a console.

Jake Moe



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-01-14 11:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-10  9:48 [gentoo-user] Strange problem with audio CDs Jake Moe
2011-01-10 10:21 ` Mick
2011-01-10 11:14   ` Jake Moe
2011-01-10 18:38 ` [gentoo-user] " Jörg Schaible
2011-01-11  6:48   ` Jake Moe
2011-01-11 11:55     ` Barney Salter
2011-01-11 18:52     ` [gentoo-user] " Jörg Schaible
2011-01-12  4:53       ` James Wall
2011-01-13  6:06         ` Jake Moe
2011-01-13  6:06       ` Jake Moe
2011-01-12 10:29 ` [gentoo-user] " J. Roeleveld
2011-01-13  6:12   ` Jake Moe
2011-01-13  8:12     ` J. Roeleveld
2011-01-13 10:33       ` Jake Moe
2011-01-13 10:48         ` J. Roeleveld
2011-01-13 11:07           ` Joerg Schilling
2011-01-13 11:17             ` J. Roeleveld
2011-01-13 12:32               ` Joerg Schilling
2011-01-14 11:13                 ` Jake Moe
2011-01-14 11:30                   ` Joerg Schilling
2011-01-14 12:42                     ` Jake Moe
2011-01-14 15:55                   ` Paul Hartman
2011-01-13 11:25             ` J. Roeleveld
2011-01-13 12:37               ` Joerg Schilling
2011-01-13 13:08                 ` J. Roeleveld
2011-01-13 13:52                 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-01-13 14:23                   ` Daniel Pielmeier
2011-01-13 14:25                   ` Joerg Schilling
2011-01-13 14:40                     ` Neil Bothwick
2011-01-13 15:01                       ` Joerg Schilling
2011-01-13 16:46                         ` pk
2011-01-13 16:54                           ` Joerg Schilling
2011-01-13 18:12                             ` pk
2011-01-13 19:14                               ` J. Roeleveld
2011-01-14  3:52                                 ` pk
2011-01-14  9:54                                   ` Joerg Schilling
2011-01-14 11:04                                     ` [gentoo-user] " Nuno J. Silva
2011-01-14 22:05                                       ` pk
2011-01-14 11:16           ` Jake Moe [this message]
2011-01-14 11:35             ` [gentoo-user] " Joerg Schilling
2011-01-14 17:24               ` [gentoo-user] " Jörg Schaible
2011-01-14 17:35                 ` Joerg Schilling
2011-01-15  9:19                   ` [gentoo-user] " Jörg Schaible
2011-01-14 17:20             ` [gentoo-user] " Nuno J. Silva
2011-01-14 17:22             ` Jörg Schaible
2011-01-12 15:37 ` [gentoo-user] " Paul Hartman
2011-01-13  6:20   ` Jake Moe

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