From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1PUbCm-0002rT-8e for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2010 08:34:55 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 60880E050E; Mon, 20 Dec 2010 08:33:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.213.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3150FE050E for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2010 08:33:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxd39 with SMTP id 39so1898385yxd.40 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2010 00:33:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=J12YH1iHu8NjvLtx8R2W795anZjj71Ah/wmYHyL/qqc=; b=AphYrnvvpl4lwpzri9Ln/cFCDVFA4mDiK8m5H05ijd3VpdzsK5GddccZdx+RjkpLi1 rUVP3DTi3n12c8ve6GWBJVv4cFm1JE+LdZ9YXEwLBldua3OgWJe5jDpmq/IvPDMjfduz qy0ikInAEPx0QqFB7QFJWcOw3AHCYdPNxrnTk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mh7vydK8ouL5lEE6IjZYw9TErqzdd7wWwpJGyALFZ63xYlikkQLNB5kIHs8e0GMsBH b6NXd1a+j3U7kpZfZdctSuQTzGLQy38lA0noC/LmSw0YKdpuDqITaev1amkkHKk0VFey wn3IPAgWqM56xSYNRODsJxDqlP1b7AoZ0TeYs= Received: by 10.100.249.8 with SMTP id w8mr2291405anh.112.1292834001565; Mon, 20 Dec 2010 00:33:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.5] (adsl-0-122-37.jan.bellsouth.net [65.0.122.37]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b27sm8071998ana.8.2010.12.20.00.33.19 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 20 Dec 2010 00:33:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D0F14CD.10300@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 02:33:17 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101212 Gentoo/2.0.11 SeaMonkey/2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Linksys router BEFSR41 loosing internet References: <4D0BC8A2.5000509@gmail.com> <201012191522.59244.peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> <4D0E6CAD.6010001@gmail.com> <201012200916.30385.joost@antarean.org> In-Reply-To: <201012200916.30385.joost@antarean.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 4ed2e4e5-d7d6-4a66-aa17-d1e98beebf0c X-Archives-Hash: 1e9fb1967446528dba21ac60af701455 J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Sunday 19 December 2010 21:35:57 Dale wrote: > >> Peter Humphrey wrote: >> >>> On Sunday 19 December 2010 13:17:51 Dale wrote: >>> >>>> I found a how to. I read it. This is what I got out of it. It >>>> sounds like I need to let the modem use DHCP with the phone company. >>>> >>> Correct. >>> >>> >>>> Then I need to set the ethernet that comes toward the router to say >>>> 192.168.1.2 then set the router to 192.168.1.5 or something to come >>>> to my puter. >>>> >>> Those two addresses must be on the same network segment, but they aren't >>> - you have your router in between (it routes traffic between one network >>> segment and the other). The side of the router that's connected to the >>> modem can have that address, but the side that's connected to your >>> computers can't have 192.168.1.X. Try 192.168.2.1, say, and your >>> computers 192.168.2.2, 192.168.2.3, ... >>> >>> >>>> Best I can figure, no two can have the same IP. Each device has two >>>> IPs, one coming in, one going out. >>>> >>> Yes, each address belongs to an interface, not to a computer, modem etc. >>> Think of it as the address of one end of a piece of wire. >>> >>> >>>> I think the how to may have made this worse. :-( >>>> >>> Nah - sounds to me like you're getting there... :-) >>> >> Ohhhh. Light bulb moment here, I think. The modem has a network, even >> tho it only has one device connected to it. The router has its own >> network but can have 4 devices connected to it. So, if the modem has >> 192.168.1.1>255 then the router needs 192.168.2.1>255 which is two >> separate networks. >> > If I follow you correctly, then yes > > >> So, if that is true, set the modem to 192.168.1.1 for its IP. Then set >> the router to to 192.168.2.1 for it's network. That would give my puter >> a IP and the second puter another IP and they can talk to each other >> since they are on the same network. Is my light bulb OK so far? >> > If I follow you correctly, then yes > > In schema form: > > INTERNET --- [Modem]<192.168.1.1>---<192.168.1.2> [ROUTER] > <192.168.2.1> ----- (Other PCs = 192.168.2.2...192.168.2.254) > > (Above should have been a single line) > > >> By the way, I feel asleep watching TV, missed my show too. The internet >> was still up when I got up. I think that setting on the modem got >> changed during a reset, upgrade on its software or something. It >> updates software automatically. >> > Always usefull :/ > > Btw, if you use ADSL, an ADSL Modem/Router combination might be easier to > maintain as then you have the Internet-address and LAN network done correctly > with default settings. > Or, if your Modem supports it, set it to "bridge" mode so your Router thinks > it's connected directly to the ISP > > -- > Joost > > I got to do some more work then. Right now, I can see the router but I can't get to the modem. I did get a static IP for my puter but I think I need to adjust it based on what you said was correct. Even tho I can't get to the modem, the internet works. Sort of weird but I think I know why. I'll play with it some in a little bit. Is there a tool that will show how the network is set up? Sort of like a flow chart? Dale :-) :-)