From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1PIEfb-000117-TY for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 06:05:32 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D9ADE0882 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 06:05:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gw0-f53.google.com (mail-gw0-f53.google.com [74.125.83.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA22E072F for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 05:28:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwb1 with SMTP id 1so166554gwb.40 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 21:28:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/9tuRqWKIaMLQpG0YQ1luGx7ZbUNlbBqz2JDD4k7Xbs=; b=SXY7RzkubSV1jUY0u8eidiAMwCaQe3KWA+6ZmpOtBOk0gJDdwx9H2Niritm9wHyVb/ 33zr39+JcpSy4UU3ba6nLEFC7QvvXgTsaHm/j7LM/lqNnYAaYPht2mlGZu9CX6UNUT9O TxQ2O/5dex6t6HNUoovWRndVn6bI4T0V6NZVg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oKhOIMbWPskWL4gFRue8/3yAszK0O4cSOd79jlHc1zvrg3hqTDzeuSXTO0LAzkHVvi nk3Fra0ckEar2jVAXAW3L6xTQtHzq6zuXhO09DDVpT1ov0c5THWVS3j2sWqzTwseoObI Q1vhreZXwULqePaaHL8a2uz2PGC0C6QZtzGH4= Received: by 10.100.239.14 with SMTP id m14mr4857440anh.104.1289885329838; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 21:28:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (adsl-0-93-231.jan.bellsouth.net [65.0.93.231]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d8sm4627370ana.22.2010.11.15.21.28.47 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 15 Nov 2010 21:28:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4CE2168E.3000902@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 23:28:46 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101109 Gentoo/2.0.10 SeaMonkey/2.0.10 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze References: <4CE0AF60.3020505@gmail.com> <201011152152.40587.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <4CE1ADCF.8060506@gmail.com> <201011160041.01199.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <4CE1C3E0.4030509@gmail.com> <0B68E5DD-8B89-4241-870C-2E9365363401@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <0B68E5DD-8B89-4241-870C-2E9365363401@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 5c9094e1-dc95-45df-9b49-4ef43e763887 X-Archives-Hash: ee22876dc59e72bc8d4c33c043e844f1 Stroller wrote: > On 15/11/2010, at 11:36pm, Dale wrote: > >>>> ... I don't have the OS media to reinstall. >>>> >> Because it is kids, they don't want to buy the OS. >> > Assuming the laptop has an OEM Windows license sticker on the underside, it is not necessary to buy a new o/s disk. > > Any standard Microsoft XP OEM CD [1] will install using that license key. Even if the sticker says "Dell" or "Sony" on it - you only have to match up the "home" or "professional" version. I periodically hear claims that this is not the case, but I don't believe them, as I have never encountered it myself over literally dozens of installs. > > Also: uninstall AVG and replace it with Microsoft Security Essentials. I know, I know - you'd think that if you don't trust Microsoft to write a secure o/s in the first place, why should you trust them to write antivirus, right? But Security Essentials is really good, and will find malware that AVG misses. AVG has been going downhill for 2 or 3 years, but has got really bad in the last year and anyone with any sense (who maintains home Windows PCs regularly) has moved to Security Essentials now. > http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/ > > Stroller. > > > > [1] E.G.: http://www.techsouq.com/images/mwxphe.jpg > > I have read the same thing about the media and the code. I only had it to fail once and it was a home key but a pro media. I wasn't surprised when it didn't work. My ex bought it off ebay and when we contacted the seller, he went and found the key so we could use it. At least he was good about it. I'll check into security essentials tho. I would like something that once installed, it updates itself in the background with no input from the user. The kids don't know much about puters as far as maintaining them. I'm sure AVG told them several times that it was expired, out of date or something and they just closed the box and did nothing about it. Since it is a M$ thing, maybe it will update like the OS does and the kids never even know it happened. Thanks for the link and info. Oh, it's a desktop, not a laptop. Doesn't matter much but anyway. ;-) Dale :-) :-)