From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1PI78j-0001Nf-ER for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 22:03:05 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D905E064C; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 22:01:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vw0-f53.google.com (mail-vw0-f53.google.com [209.85.212.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3ADE064C for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 22:01:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so2101838vws.40 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:01:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+Vy6h+4qLDBUyacpdUGk25rwBJM1QsdyD8qxRu0eq1w=; b=JFmddYi+J7aymHhYr/c12LRuxjqbI2qxeH7m2NhdyXFJc7NfouRgkpdLIBPyBB4l0v M8w/0VBwBm+27MV0uWD9S2Z11T8DTW2AevainRs2Is5xyBYc4u7FcGpILWMbck7ffuIB sfLV8foi0gkxpkY/DwI+GSHblkDPpQ8yb0KqM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VGQQeEPtLNcXZz5kjFqUaBuNEr3v5OyhJnQXsiDtQVNYxwHdXOeAh2ss/F/iBG8KIf pTtMcvU2OZU0AQHIjNjDdycxt+9GRWkfe9H7lhUrX5+vnrTnKnnUFIIeGH/pbLtfbFTL oVnog7gLpLzTwFaeD92Rpu/U3AkqzIaMMt+30= Received: by 10.220.191.76 with SMTP id dl12mr1635544vcb.2.1289858515633; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (adsl-0-93-231.jan.bellsouth.net [65.0.93.231]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d14sm153303vcx.23.2010.11.15.14.01.53 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:01:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4CE1ADCF.8060506@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:01:51 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101109 Gentoo/2.0.10 SeaMonkey/2.0.10 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze References: <4CE0AF60.3020505@gmail.com> <4CE15A67.5090706@f_philipp.fastmail.net> <4CE17133.5050403@kutulu.org> <201011152152.40587.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201011152152.40587.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 735a0d6f-b871-4f25-8b34-8fae85aba639 X-Archives-Hash: f00965de82db00ee646f2b5f7c9b0cb5 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 19:43 on Monday 15 November 2010, Mike > Edenfield did opine thusly: > > >> On 11/15/2010 11:05 AM, Florian Philipp wrote: >> >>> It's LGPL licensed. The GUI is a bit ugly but it has a lot of >>> functionality and can handle cases in which the Windows defragger >>> doesn't work. That mostly happens when the disk is nearly full. >>> >> Since we're *way* off topic as it is: >> >> mydefrag isn't LGPL, just freeware, but I did notice this on the >> jkdefrag site: >> >> "The executables are released under the GNU General Public License, and >> the sources are released under the GNU Lesser General Public License." >> >> Is that even possible? >> > It's possible, as someone did it ... :-) > > It's not valid though, and it's nonsensical. If they give you binaries per > GPL, then they must make the sources available. They already make the sources > available per LGPL, so now they are dual-licensed. If you choose to accept > them under GPL, then you may only compile and redistribute them under GPL. If > you choose to accept them under LGPL, compile them and redistribute them, then > other non-GPL software can link to them per the terms of the LGPL. > > So which is it? GPL? LGPL? Both? > > Sounds like someone on that project has a gigantic misunderstanding on how the > licenses work. > > > OK. I took a nap and it seems everyone on the list wanted to chime in. lol This is one reason I posted here. I knew I would get at least a few replies. Just picking one to reply to so not pointing at Alan here. First, the drive is not full. It has about 30% or so left. I think the virus broke something and I don't have the OS media to reinstall. If I had my way, that puter would have Linux and a root password that only I know. Second, it has not been kept up to date for sure. They are little kids, oldest is getting about old enough to understand how to maintain things tho. Third, I'm not going to go to to much trouble with this thing and trying to get it back to shiny new. If it doesn't work to their liking, I'll tell them to get a CD/DVD with the install on it or I can put Linux on it for free. Let them decide. One post mentioned that this needs to be reinstalled, I AGREE. If I had the CD/DVD to install from, I would do just that. Heck, I would have done that right after I saw AVG being so out of date. I wouldn't have even turned the thing off. I would have put in the CD, pulled the plug and booted the CD and reinstalled. The program mydefragger seemed to work pretty well. It is done and I am running it again just to be sure. I'll see if it reboots any faster now. That should tell me if it helped any at all. I don't think it could hurt for sure. Thanks for the replies. Going to download one of those defraggers that someone mentioned and save it for a rainy day. Dale :-) :-)