From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1PHvQu-0002zr-VV for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 09:33:05 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 811C2E0752; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 09:32:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f181.google.com (mail-gx0-f181.google.com [209.85.161.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C1E7E0752 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 09:32:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk5 with SMTP id 5so1467816gxk.40 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 01:32:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=n5BDrDypMDNPpzqfj3JbvGXA8Y3XWQL0oIp2vDguIx0=; b=tkHN19sm7RmZyCdrlRQ+lZ2fU9N7Jvhtb8wtAmu4b9hhUMONaf+0DxmtE7TmjC6RXH Ps3/N/eQtWJiaHwLpCPtMJTf7nHVAlGjWZmFVmoi7aRBz7U5EbTwUd8/YfeWJ36Y7B+5 +0OowXBFR7DDBVHourQ9w7Ffx2LlgmLR15muU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Vl9ufXc19jnQnh60/ugtjNhTnZVyjELfD0ArZ7evKv2rItIvo7dv8K0+FFT9IvVYZx no+wmMgo0Rw849s6zXwOPfga11I5gR0H8i5PLH5VC4o4hqwGmJi2pOQIyX2AIiWANy6E /OO/JGH6Yz7BOtpEYHJcUWLXBe+1x7n/iYric= Received: by 10.91.121.3 with SMTP id y3mr1428563agm.156.1289813524995; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 01:32:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (adsl-0-94-57.jan.bellsouth.net [65.0.94.57]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b28sm2683743ana.28.2010.11.15.01.32.02 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 15 Nov 2010 01:32:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4CE0FE0F.1080005@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 03:32:00 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101109 Gentoo/2.0.10 SeaMonkey/2.0.10 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze References: <4CE0AF60.3020505@gmail.com> <398100A0-A7B8-4EFE-946A-FD60499A4670@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <398100A0-A7B8-4EFE-946A-FD60499A4670@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: cef8f638-4c94-4b3c-828f-ad3cb1e5818e X-Archives-Hash: c202799ce1c92dc3a69bebdfccb3db66 Stroller wrote: > On 15/11/2010, at 3:56am, Dale wrote: > =20 >> ... >> I have a niece that brought me her puter. It's a HP with windoze XP o= n it. I want to defrag the hard drive but the one that comes with windoz= e won't work. Is there a free defrag tool that is safe on windoze? >> =20 > I would be more concerned why defrag itself (Start> Run `dfrg.msc`) is= n't working. If it's refusing because there's filesystem corruption, then= I would advise against using anything else! > > You need to be logged in as an administrator in order to run defrag. If= you boot XP to safe mode then a user named Administrator will be shown a= mongst the logon icons, and that user has no password. > > Running defrag,exe at the command-line (Start> Run `cmd`; `defrag,exe = /?`) might give an explanation. Running `chkdsk /?`, choosing the most ag= gressive options and then `chkdsk c:` will cause the disk to be checked f= or corruption (`fsck` equivalent) at the next reboot. Obviously you shoul= d take a backup before doing this, as occasionally filesystem corruption = will be *really* bad. > > Ideally you will disable swap / pagefile before defragmenting and enabl= e it again afterwards. You can boot from a PE boot CD and run defrag from= that, but it doesn't really seem necessary. > > Also check that "compress files and folders" is disabled. You're best to apply it to the whole drive (ac= tually tick the box saying you DO want to compress files and folders), bu= t when the dialog box comes up saying "shall I apply that to all sub-dire= ctories" tell it "no". Then go back to checkbox again, disable it, then w= hen the dialog box comes up tell it "yes". That will crunch away for some= time ensuring that compression is not being used at all. Because Windows= XP launched a decade ago, when disks were much smaller, the option to co= mpress files and folders is recommended in the Disk Cleanup Wizard, so th= is option may be set incorrectly, and it is worth checking. > > Stroller. > > =20 I am thinking like you on the reason it is not working. It was brought=20 to me because it was not running as fast as it used to. First thing I=20 noticed was that AVG hasn't been updated in about 2 YEARS. I installed=20 the newest AVG and it found hundreds of infections and said it fixed=20 them. I never was a big believer in "fixing" a infection. Anyway, I=20 got that updated and got it to scan until nothing was found. While doing that, I noticed the drive was really doing some serious=20 searching while booting and such. It is also pretty slow to boot. The=20 poor drive light stays on about all the time and you can hear the heads=20 going back and forth. I wanted to run defrag just to see if it would=20 help. I figure if AVG hasn't been updated in that long, I doubt they=20 ran defrag either, not to mention it doesn't work. I couldn't get Defraggler to work either. Different error and I even=20 tried a older version that wasn't beta with the same results. I then=20 found mydefrag and gave it a try. So far, it is working on it and it=20 seems to be doing something at least. The window makes it look like it=20 was fragmented really bad. It looks like something that would come out=20 of a blender after hitting frapp=E9. If this completes, I'm going to let them try it to see if it is any=20 better. If it is still not to their liking, they will just have to get=20 a windoze CD and I'll reinstall from scratch. That should help. In case you can't tell, I don't claim to know a lot about windoze. =20 People in my family just like me to work on their puters. I worked on=20 puters until windoze 3.1 came out. I changed careers. I got tired of=20 that pretty quick. I just thought DOS was bad. lol Dale :-) :-)