[gentoo-user] perl 5.12 downgrade ??

[gentoo-user] perl 5.12 downgrade ??

[Joseph]

After upgrading to Perl 5.12 and all cleanup "perl-cleaner --all"
When I run "emerge --depclean" it asked me to removed the following packages listed below.
However, when I check all of them are needed by some other packages. Do I need them? (I retained them all)

virtual/perl-Package-Constants
virtual/perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib
virtual/perl-Compress-Raw-Bzip2
dev-java/antlr 
perl-core/MIME-Base64
perl-core/Test-Simple
perl-core/Archive-Tar
perl-core/Test-Harness
perl-core/IO-Compress
perl-core/IO-Zlib
perl-core/Digest-MD5
perl-core/CGI
perl-core/Digest-SHA 
perl-core/Compress-Raw-Bzip2 
perl-core/Sys-Syslog
perl-core/digest-base 
perl-core/Compress-Raw-Zlib
perl-core/version
perl-core/DB_File
perl-core/Package-Constants
dev-java/gjdoc
perl-core/libnet

The reason I'm asking is that I'm getting some strange errors when using 'sql-ledger' eg.
Using a hash as a reference is deprecated at SL/IS.pm line 582.

I think it might be related to recent perl upgrade.
Is it possible / safe to downgrade to previous "perl-5.8.8-r8" ?
or do I just delete the above perl module.

-- 
Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] perl 5.12 downgrade ??

[Graham Murray]

Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> writes:

> The reason I'm asking is that I'm getting some strange errors when using 'sql-ledger' eg.
> Using a hash as a reference is deprecated at SL/IS.pm line 582.

The 'XXX is depreciated" messages are not normally errors. They are just
to inform you that the script is using a depreciated feature and that
unless it is changed (to use a non depreciated mechanism) that it will
stop working in a future version. This is aimed primarily at the scripts
author/maintainer. For a user it should prompt one of three actions, in
order of preference, a) Upgrade to a later version of the script, b)
check if this has already been reported as a bug (either upstream or in
Gentoo) and if not raise a bug report, c) Ignore it.

Re: [gentoo-user] perl 5.12 downgrade ??

[Tanstaafl]

On 2010-10-28 9:39 AM, Graham Murray wrote:
> The 'XXX is depreciated" messages are not normally errors. They are just
> to inform you that the script is using a depreciated feature and that
> unless it is changed (to use a non depreciated mechanism) that it will
> stop working in a future version.

<peeve-mode>
It is 'deprecated', not 'depreciated'. Depreciated means something
totally different from deprecated.
</peeve-mode>

Re: [gentoo-user] perl 5.12 downgrade ??

[Mick]

On 28 October 2010 13:58, Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> wrote:
> After upgrading to Perl 5.12 and all cleanup "perl-cleaner --all"
> When I run "emerge --depclean" it asked me to removed the following packages
> listed below.
> However, when I check all of them are needed by some other packages. Do I
> need them? (I retained them all)
>
> virtual/perl-Package-Constants
> virtual/perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib
> virtual/perl-Compress-Raw-Bzip2
> dev-java/antlr perl-core/MIME-Base64
> perl-core/Test-Simple
> perl-core/Archive-Tar
> perl-core/Test-Harness
> perl-core/IO-Compress
> perl-core/IO-Zlib
> perl-core/Digest-MD5
> perl-core/CGI
> perl-core/Digest-SHA perl-core/Compress-Raw-Bzip2 perl-core/Sys-Syslog
> perl-core/digest-base perl-core/Compress-Raw-Zlib
> perl-core/version
> perl-core/DB_File
> perl-core/Package-Constants
> dev-java/gjdoc
> perl-core/libnet
>
> The reason I'm asking is that I'm getting some strange errors when using
> 'sql-ledger' eg.
> Using a hash as a reference is deprecated at SL/IS.pm line 582.
>
> I think it might be related to recent perl upgrade.
> Is it possible / safe to downgrade to previous "perl-5.8.8-r8" ?
> or do I just delete the above perl module.

I am getting the same here.  I retained everything until things settle
a bit and newer versions get unmasked.

-- 
Regards,
Mick

Re: [gentoo-user] perl 5.12 downgrade ??

[Joseph]

On 10/28/10 15:05, Mick wrote:
>On 28 October 2010 13:58, Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> wrote:
>> After upgrading to Perl 5.12 and all cleanup "perl-cleaner --all"
>> When I run "emerge --depclean" it asked me to removed the following packages
>> listed below.
>> However, when I check all of them are needed by some other packages. Do I
>> need them? (I retained them all)
>>
>> virtual/perl-Package-Constants
>> virtual/perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib
>> virtual/perl-Compress-Raw-Bzip2
>> dev-java/antlr perl-core/MIME-Base64
>> perl-core/Test-Simple
>> perl-core/Archive-Tar
>> perl-core/Test-Harness
>> perl-core/IO-Compress
>> perl-core/IO-Zlib
>> perl-core/Digest-MD5
>> perl-core/CGI
>> perl-core/Digest-SHA perl-core/Compress-Raw-Bzip2 perl-core/Sys-Syslog
>> perl-core/digest-base perl-core/Compress-Raw-Zlib
>> perl-core/version
>> perl-core/DB_File
>> perl-core/Package-Constants
>> dev-java/gjdoc
>> perl-core/libnet
>>
>> The reason I'm asking is that I'm getting some strange errors when using
>> 'sql-ledger' eg.
>> Using a hash as a reference is deprecated at SL/IS.pm line 582.
>>
>> I think it might be related to recent perl upgrade.
>> Is it possible / safe to downgrade to previous "perl-5.8.8-r8" ?
>> or do I just delete the above perl module.
>
>I am getting the same here.  I retained everything until things settle
>a bit and newer versions get unmasked.
>
>--
>Regards,
>Mick

I've posted this message on Gentoo forum and user "krinn" suggested to file a bug as "depclean" not suppose to remove package that depend on 
packages that are still in use.

-- 
Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] perl 5.12 downgrade ??

[Arttu V.]

On 10/28/10, Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've posted this message on Gentoo forum and user "krinn" suggested to file
> a bug as "depclean" not suppose to remove package that depend on
> packages that are still in use.

I'd imagine most items on your list are simply build-time
dependencies, and they're not needed at all during runtime. Perhaps
you can separate the chaff by using "--with-bdeps n"?

-- 
Arttu V. -- Running Gentoo is like running with scissors

Re: [gentoo-user] perl 5.12 downgrade ??

[Joseph]

On 10/28/10 15:05, Mick wrote:
>On 28 October 2010 13:58, Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> wrote:
>> After upgrading to Perl 5.12 and all cleanup "perl-cleaner --all"
>> When I run "emerge --depclean" it asked me to removed the following packages
>> listed below.
>> However, when I check all of them are needed by some other packages. Do I
>> need them? (I retained them all)
>>
>> virtual/perl-Package-Constants
>> virtual/perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib
>> virtual/perl-Compress-Raw-Bzip2
>> dev-java/antlr perl-core/MIME-Base64
>> perl-core/Test-Simple
>> perl-core/Archive-Tar
>> perl-core/Test-Harness
>> perl-core/IO-Compress
>> perl-core/IO-Zlib
>> perl-core/Digest-MD5
>> perl-core/CGI
>> perl-core/Digest-SHA perl-core/Compress-Raw-Bzip2 perl-core/Sys-Syslog
>> perl-core/digest-base perl-core/Compress-Raw-Zlib
>> perl-core/version
>> perl-core/DB_File
>> perl-core/Package-Constants
>> dev-java/gjdoc
>> perl-core/libnet
>>
>> The reason I'm asking is that I'm getting some strange errors when using
>> 'sql-ledger' eg.
>> Using a hash as a reference is deprecated at SL/IS.pm line 582.
>>
>> I think it might be related to recent perl upgrade.
>> Is it possible / safe to downgrade to previous "perl-5.8.8-r8" ?
>> or do I just delete the above perl module.
>
>I am getting the same here.  I retained everything until things settle
>a bit and newer versions get unmasked.
>
>--
>Regards,
>Mick

I think all these packages can be remove now, 
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343093

-- 
Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] perl 5.12 downgrade ??

[Joseph]

On 10/28/10 06:58, Joseph wrote:
>After upgrading to Perl 5.12 and all cleanup "perl-cleaner --all"
>When I run "emerge --depclean" it asked me to removed the following packages listed below.
>However, when I check all of them are needed by some other packages. Do I need them? (I retained them all)
>
>virtual/perl-Package-Constants
>virtual/perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib
>virtual/perl-Compress-Raw-Bzip2
>dev-java/antlr
>perl-core/MIME-Base64
>perl-core/Test-Simple
>perl-core/Archive-Tar
>perl-core/Test-Harness
>perl-core/IO-Compress
>perl-core/IO-Zlib
>perl-core/Digest-MD5
>perl-core/CGI
>perl-core/Digest-SHA
>perl-core/Compress-Raw-Bzip2
>perl-core/Sys-Syslog
>perl-core/digest-base
>perl-core/Compress-Raw-Zlib
>perl-core/version
>perl-core/DB_File
>perl-core/Package-Constants
>dev-java/gjdoc
>perl-core/libnet
>
>The reason I'm asking is that I'm getting some strange errors when using 'sql-ledger' eg.
>Using a hash as a reference is deprecated at SL/IS.pm line 582.
>
>I think it might be related to recent perl upgrade.
>Is it possible / safe to downgrade to previous "perl-5.8.8-r8" ?
>or do I just delete the above perl module.
>
>--
>Joseph

I'm trying to downgrade perl on one of my machine to 5.8 and got stuck with a block:
[blocks B     ] <sys-devel/libperl-5.10.1 ("<sys-devel/libperl-5.10.1" is blocking dev-lang/perl-5.12.2-r1)

I've tried to mask:
>=dev-lang/perl-5.12.2-r1
>=sys-devel/libperl-5.10.1 

but it doesn't help so I run:
emerge -1 --nodeps =libperl-5.8.8* && emerge --nodeps =perl-5.8.8*

this compiled OK but running "perl-cleaner --all"
it tries to recomile imagemagic and it fails:
emerge -vD1 net-print/foomatic-db-engine:0 dev-db/postgresql-server:8.4 app-office/gnumeric:0 x11-terms/rxvt-unicode:0

libtool: install: warning: remember to run `libtool --finish /usr/lib/ImageMagick-6.6.2/modules-Q16/coders'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/media-gfx/imagemagick-6.6.2.5/work/ImageMagick-6.6.2-5'
make[1]: *** [install-am] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/media-gfx/imagemagick-6.6.2.5/work/ImageMagick-6.6.2-5'
make: *** [install] Error 2
  * ERROR: media-gfx/imagemagick-6.6.2.5 failed:
  *   (no error message)
  *
  * Call stack:
  *     ebuild.sh, line  54:  Called src_install
  *   environment, line 2661:  Called die
  * The specific snippet of code:
  *       emake DESTDIR="${D}" install || die;
  *
  * If you need support, post the output of 'emerge --info =media-gfx/imagemagick-6.6.2.5',
  * the complete build log and the output of 'emerge -pqv =media-gfx/imagemagick-6.6.2.5'.
  * The complete build log is located at '/var/log/portage/media-gfx:imagemagick-6.6.2.5:20101028-182120.log'.
  * The ebuild environment file is located at '/var/tmp/portage/media-gfx/imagemagick-6.6.2.5/temp/environment'.
  * S: '/var/tmp/portage/media-gfx/imagemagick-6.6.2.5/work/ImageMagick-6.6.2-5'

Any help will be appreciated what to do with it. 

-- 
Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] perl 5.12 downgrade ??

[Alan McKinnon]

Apparently, though unproven, at 21:44 on Thursday 28 October 2010, Joseph did 
opine thusly:

> On 10/28/10 06:58, Joseph wrote:
> >After upgrading to Perl 5.12 and all cleanup "perl-cleaner --all"
> >When I run "emerge --depclean" it asked me to removed the following
> >packages listed below. However, when I check all of them are needed by
> >some other packages. Do I need them? (I retained them all)
> >
> >virtual/perl-Package-Constants
> >virtual/perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib
> >virtual/perl-Compress-Raw-Bzip2
> >dev-java/antlr
> >perl-core/MIME-Base64
> >perl-core/Test-Simple
> >perl-core/Archive-Tar
> >perl-core/Test-Harness
> >perl-core/IO-Compress
> >perl-core/IO-Zlib
> >perl-core/Digest-MD5
> >perl-core/CGI
> >perl-core/Digest-SHA
> >perl-core/Compress-Raw-Bzip2
> >perl-core/Sys-Syslog
> >perl-core/digest-base
> >perl-core/Compress-Raw-Zlib
> >perl-core/version
> >perl-core/DB_File
> >perl-core/Package-Constants
> >dev-java/gjdoc
> >perl-core/libnet
> >
> >The reason I'm asking is that I'm getting some strange errors when using
> >'sql-ledger' eg. Using a hash as a reference is deprecated at SL/IS.pm
> >line 582.
> >
> >I think it might be related to recent perl upgrade.
> >Is it possible / safe to downgrade to previous "perl-5.8.8-r8" ?
> >or do I just delete the above perl module.
> >
> >--
> >Joseph
> 
> I'm trying to downgrade perl on one of my machine to 5.8 and got stuck with
> a block: [blocks B     ] <sys-devel/libperl-5.10.1
> ("<sys-devel/libperl-5.10.1" is blocking dev-lang/perl-5.12.2-r1)

No that won't work. Read the output and understand what it is telling you:

Something with a version smaller than libperl-5.10.1 will be downgraded but 
that will conflict with perl-5.12.2-r1 which *will still be installed at the 
time libperl is downgraded*.

This only makes sense as you can only merge one thing at a time and they block 
each other. Either way it is done, you will get a block like this.

The solution is to remove the packages and remerge them correctly (which 
nicely sidesteps the entire problem). Or you could use portage-2.2 which has 
support for much the same thing. Obviously you don't have that portage though.

As perl is not required to run emerge, you can safely do this:

emerge -C libperl perl
emerge <stuff you do want>




> 
> I've tried to mask:
> >=dev-lang/perl-5.12.2-r1
> >=sys-devel/libperl-5.10.1
> 
> but it doesn't help so I run:
> emerge -1 --nodeps =libperl-5.8.8* && emerge --nodeps =perl-5.8.8*
> 
> this compiled OK but running "perl-cleaner --all"
> it tries to recomile imagemagic and it fails:
> emerge -vD1 net-print/foomatic-db-engine:0 dev-db/postgresql-server:8.4
> app-office/gnumeric:0 x11-terms/rxvt-unicode:0
> 
> libtool: install: warning: remember to run `libtool --finish
> /usr/lib/ImageMagick-6.6.2/modules-Q16/coders' make[2]: Leaving directory
> `/var/tmp/portage/media-gfx/imagemagick-6.6.2.5/work/ImageMagick-6.6.2-5'
> make[1]: *** [install-am] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory
> `/var/tmp/portage/media-gfx/imagemagick-6.6.2.5/work/ImageMagick-6.6.2-5'
> make: *** [install] Error 2
>   * ERROR: media-gfx/imagemagick-6.6.2.5 failed:
>   *   (no error message)
>   *
>   * Call stack:
>   *     ebuild.sh, line  54:  Called src_install
>   *   environment, line 2661:  Called die
>   * The specific snippet of code:
>   *       emake DESTDIR="${D}" install || die;
>   *
>   * If you need support, post the output of 'emerge --info
> =media-gfx/imagemagick-6.6.2.5', * the complete build log and the output
> of 'emerge -pqv =media-gfx/imagemagick-6.6.2.5'. * The complete build log
> is located at
> '/var/log/portage/media-gfx:imagemagick-6.6.2.5:20101028-182120.log'. *
> The ebuild environment file is located at
> '/var/tmp/portage/media-gfx/imagemagick-6.6.2.5/temp/environment'. * S:
> '/var/tmp/portage/media-gfx/imagemagick-6.6.2.5/work/ImageMagick-6.6.2-5'
> 
> Any help will be appreciated what to do with it.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com