From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1P9Obj-0003H3-Qa for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 20:53:01 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BAA96E06A6; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 20:52:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gw0-f53.google.com (mail-gw0-f53.google.com [74.125.83.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C307E06A6 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 20:52:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwb1 with SMTP id 1so2485095gwb.40 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 13:52:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cgsCAf50qJAlph/QwNUFduxrgIENiWiXRYgFXzLWqzQ=; b=gTPLNTlr81JFfjlAEqup4bkan2ilZbIG1BkC8Xo9cOCU0dnbM3qOA7AgM2GxQEzgH7 NJ17GTpctS2BQ/GJw4hv4OYIA3Nn24RyfQlXaLdlEpljc+Rh31VxPMEJeTR7i97jWcsR opjteex9hMadT0A4gy3uD7W9ou9uaV7kaSsUI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JHRy3FeOef62Kr+DxzZAB1BOS4h8+ydmdchaWXhLcvpS8lah+B2X95kwaxKsjHo2RG OZr+BLGRTq9U1iHlCyLYA+OiAZl2X3JdZArEbCoe0g5TBl4aeyIdFfx2RXyJVn+Cd8XV 8jMut2j8Jb0U1g96+Uow1aczae/cip1vYXGRc= Received: by 10.42.21.68 with SMTP id j4mr2437792icb.476.1287780742211; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 13:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (adsl-95-109-148.jan.bellsouth.net [98.95.109.148]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y8sm1110118vch.5.2010.10.22.13.52.19 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 22 Oct 2010 13:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4CC1F982.8030009@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:52:18 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.14) Gecko/20101020 Gentoo/2.0.9 SeaMonkey/2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout --> openrc ? References: <20101022122901.6a54ef4c@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> <0B6D45A7-8D0E-45AB-8578-FC8F265B8C49@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> <201010222232.21958.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201010222232.21958.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 8f66ade5-777f-4050-9fa8-589699e61593 X-Archives-Hash: 813a01754cffca0359f94c61315e6147 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 18:19 on Friday 22 October 2010, Stroller did > opine thusly: > > >> On 22 Oct 2010, at 12:29, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >>> ... Openrc will be stabilised at some time, >>> so you may as well do the upgrade when you feel like it rather that when >>> the devs decide to flip a keyword. >>> >> I thought this was a matter of debate - Openrc was IIRC the creation of Roy >> Marples, who was originally a Gentoo dev and the baselayout maintainer. >> >> As Roy developed baselayout 2 (or "baselayout - The Next Generation", as >> you might call it) he decided to generalise it, AFAICT, in order to make >> it useful to other distros or unices (e.g. the BSDs). >> >> Roy is no longer a Gentoo dev and is no longer maintaining Openrc: >> http://roy.marples.name/projects/openrc >> >> I understood the future of Openrc within Gentoo to be in question: >> http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_ce55de133ca592b638db758c9e457370. >> xml or http://tinyurl.com/3xglcqb >> > Did you and I read the same mail thread? I read all of it - did you? > > The end result of that is not that there is a question over openrc, it is that > openrc will proceed. And anyone else that wants to pursue systemd or any other > init system is free to go ahead and show up on gentoo-dev with running code. > Meanwhile, openrc is where it's going. > > The thread started with someone wondering about openrc; I disagree with your > conclusion about where it ended. > That was what I recalled about the openrc discussion too. It is coming but just not sure when. Me, I'm not switching until it starts getting closer to that time. It, like some of the newer versions of portage, appears to be stable and is used by many people but is not marked stable yet. Both of those sort of confuse me sometimes. I'm just hoping that when the switch comes, it is painless. Dale :-) :-)