From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1P8MK0-0003j1-Ae for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 00:14:24 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C887E05ED; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 00:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f53.google.com (mail-yw0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FFDE05ED for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 00:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywo7 with SMTP id 7so2864586ywo.40 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 17:14:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=X/itMr4DhFKzDFxPAn4oRTbsjfs2PfK+RcWw7rzX3WU=; b=TTilPMDlMChLoeiKAdQU+mT4KUPZuH204byGx0HqvgT2Pf/RGjJcB+ByFAVrI8fxll 9FIwXV8V7UvVstchvPJFIWdDMAtEqinl+d2LFSAThgtqtnaB//46l38fpvidLtO6Ps1v WmsgdHBn6RREmQwuv8Kjy+EawodP9QPrtYUeo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=G9c60jd/P0yDcNmnj/GYJKoscFkn/ZdKxvtgvl7K2EZfe8DpzRYHS7xjYzgV/MfgMF vr0BvVd+c+bJAEkjF500SPX/7IKzePh02L/tb+cK9YCBs2nwtjKEkJHGcnJyB2/I8Cci /Y1kapJSqFw/xEkbURIPBKy+r4xPQni9thqbU= Received: by 10.150.192.12 with SMTP id p12mr15383ybf.90.1287533657571; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 17:14:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (adsl-95-109-148.jan.bellsouth.net [98.95.109.148]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q4sm6249646yba.2.2010.10.19.17.14.15 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 19 Oct 2010 17:14:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4CBE3456.1090200@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 19:14:14 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.13) Gecko/20101006 Gentoo/2.0.8-r1 SeaMonkey/2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB References: <4CBD4C85.2010500@gmail.com> <4CBD5C2F.40207@f_philipp.fastmail.net> <4CBD8DC4.6000701@gmail.com> <4CBD9231.5000901@f_philipp.fastmail.net> In-Reply-To: <4CBD9231.5000901@f_philipp.fastmail.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 9771ad5d-cefa-4584-b3c8-4e8b0fcd15ce X-Archives-Hash: 3a92d4bce83c057ef563b591b70e5b06 Florian Philipp wrote: > Am 19.10.2010 14:23, schrieb Dale: > >> Florian Philipp wrote: >> >>> Am 19.10.2010 09:45, schrieb Dale: >>> >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I am thinking of upgrading from a FX-5200 with 128Mb video card to a >>>> GeForce 6200 with 512MB. It will be AGP since this is a older rig. My >>>> system is something like this: >>>> >>>> Mobo: Abit NF7 2.0 >>>> CPU: AMD 2500+ No overclocking >>>> Memory: 2Gbs of 333Mhz. >>>> Monitor: Gateway 19" running 1280 x 1024 >>>> >>>> I think my memory is fine, it never uses all of it, or even half of it, >>>> except for caching stuff. I may try to get a 3000+ or 3200+ CPU if I >>>> can run up on a good deal. I'm thinking of doing the video card first >>>> because it is cheaper. I have also noticed that playing movies on here >>>> is getting a bit slow if I go full screen or close to full screen. I'm >>>> bad to download from youtube and then play them locally full screen or >>>> as close as it will allow. >>>> >>>> I do use the nvidia drivers. Currently: >>>> >>>> nvidia-drivers-173.14.25 >>>> >>>> I'm on that one because I think I need to upgrade my kernel to use the >>>> latest one that was recently put in the tree. I'm looking at this card: >>>> >>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133328 >>>> >>>> What kind of improvement can I expect from this video card upgrade? >>>> While I am at it, the CPU upgrade won't make that much difference >>>> right? Maybe 20% or so faster or something like that? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Hi Dale, >>> >>> first and foremost, a newer card will allow you to use the newest driver >>> series (195.*.*) which is always a good thing ;) >>> >>> It also gives you more texture units. You can use these to transfer more >>> work to your GPU (mostly scaling and such). Take a look at `man mplayer` >>> section '-vo gl' for a list of options. >>> VLC has similar options, I think. I don't know about gstreamer or xine. >>> >>> I could be wrong but I don't think that adobe-flash uses these options. >>> That is probably part of the problem why flash is so much slower on >>> GNU/Linux than on Windows. If my assumption is true, you are better off >>> buying a faster CPU. >>> >>> You could also test how gnash performs. Since it uses ffmpeg (AFAIK) it >>> might be worth a try. >>> >>> Please take my advices with a big dose of salt. While I still run an old >>> desktop with nearly identical specs, I almost never use Youtube and >>> therefore have no experience with that. >>> >>> Hope this helps, >>> Florian Philipp >>> >>> >>> >> This particular card I think uses the latest 260.* drivers. That's >> according to the nvidia site but sometimes that is not correct either. >> >> Anyway, I always download the videos off youtube or where ever and then >> watch them with smplayer locally. It generally works better for the >> most part. I just have the slow DSL so it skips a bit on some if I >> don't download it first. I do need a faster CPU but want to get the >> card first. I do sometimes max out the CPU when watching a video but I >> think most of the time it is the card that is just getting old and needs >> a new one that is a little faster at least. For the price, I was going >> to get a card that is a good bit faster. >> >> > [...] > > Ah, in that case tweaking your mplayer config might really help. Look at > the man page for options (-vo gl:...). > > You really have to try every option and sometimes reasonable > combinations. I've found that even if the man page says it is a slow > option, sometimes it's the fastest. As I've said before, you will reach > the maximum number of texture units in your card, therefore certain > options will not work together but the man page tells you how many > texture units each option needs. With that info it should be easy to > tweak your settings. > > To get you going, try mplayer -vo gl:yuv=2:lscale=1:cscale=1 > Don't forget to test it in fullscreen mode. > > You can later apply these options either in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf or > in ~/.mplayer/config like this: "vo=gl:yuv=2:lscale=1:cscale=1" > > Hope this helps, > Florian Philipp > > I'll look into that in a bit. Sort of having a so so day today. Those options may help tho. I mostly play mp4's tho. They can be pretty big. Dale :-) :-)