From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1P8BXd-0004H4-12 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:43:47 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C391E0511; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF9AE0511 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.43]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D5B5F8; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:42:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:42:44 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; s=smtpout; bh=bkgIOYQCMAm2DekkuXntLpaPu/g=; b=Yi5a35F731CRHhXzAzgDgF0g2yZV6OzQDesm58yy+VtXmo8chklvcmOhESTsDb4vMXmzfJq42UL1E12rSahc1r/JlyGkRg0TD4+5tbWfYFMIgd3mI5LJa12/Fx8DYXBFeI1RqSZi7Rld7Zt9JeqEKVjvfei5ipzD+6q/sZhWB0g= X-Sasl-enc: fNGMthetQvsyCp0kzh57Tqjp5otIVZYIvtkILc6nZOXw 1287492161 Received: from [192.168.5.18] (lvps83-169-5-6.dedicated.hosteurope.de [83.169.5.6]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C7F08408092 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:42:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4CBD9231.5000901@f_philipp.fastmail.net> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 14:42:25 +0200 From: Florian Philipp User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20101002 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.3 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB References: <4CBD4C85.2010500@gmail.com> <4CBD5C2F.40207@f_philipp.fastmail.net> <4CBD8DC4.6000701@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4CBD8DC4.6000701@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB9A3BB56AA3FC0963923AF87" X-Archives-Salt: 797828ae-4dd0-4766-9cfd-7ab162743404 X-Archives-Hash: 3faa698b5bc57e27c80a95cf6c8fa8a7 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB9A3BB56AA3FC0963923AF87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 19.10.2010 14:23, schrieb Dale: > Florian Philipp wrote: >> Am 19.10.2010 09:45, schrieb Dale: >> =20 >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am thinking of upgrading from a FX-5200 with 128Mb video card to a >>> GeForce 6200 with 512MB. It will be AGP since this is a older rig. = My >>> system is something like this: >>> >>> Mobo: Abit NF7 2.0 >>> CPU: AMD 2500+ No overclocking >>> Memory: 2Gbs of 333Mhz. >>> Monitor: Gateway 19" running 1280 x 1024 >>> >>> I think my memory is fine, it never uses all of it, or even half of i= t, >>> except for caching stuff. I may try to get a 3000+ or 3200+ CPU if I= >>> can run up on a good deal. I'm thinking of doing the video card firs= t >>> because it is cheaper. I have also noticed that playing movies on he= re >>> is getting a bit slow if I go full screen or close to full screen. = I'm >>> bad to download from youtube and then play them locally full screen o= r >>> as close as it will allow. >>> >>> I do use the nvidia drivers. Currently: >>> >>> nvidia-drivers-173.14.25 >>> >>> I'm on that one because I think I need to upgrade my kernel to use th= e >>> latest one that was recently put in the tree. I'm looking at this ca= rd: >>> >>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E16814133328 >>> >>> What kind of improvement can I expect from this video card upgrade? >>> While I am at it, the CPU upgrade won't make that much difference >>> right? Maybe 20% or so faster or something like that? >>> >>> =20 >> Hi Dale, >> >> first and foremost, a newer card will allow you to use the newest driv= er >> series (195.*.*) which is always a good thing ;) >> >> It also gives you more texture units. You can use these to transfer mo= re >> work to your GPU (mostly scaling and such). Take a look at `man mplaye= r` >> section '-vo gl' for a list of options. >> VLC has similar options, I think. I don't know about gstreamer or xine= =2E >> >> I could be wrong but I don't think that adobe-flash uses these options= =2E >> That is probably part of the problem why flash is so much slower on >> GNU/Linux than on Windows. If my assumption is true, you are better of= f >> buying a faster CPU. >> >> You could also test how gnash performs. Since it uses ffmpeg (AFAIK) i= t >> might be worth a try. >> >> Please take my advices with a big dose of salt. While I still run an o= ld >> desktop with nearly identical specs, I almost never use Youtube and >> therefore have no experience with that. >> >> Hope this helps, >> Florian Philipp >> >> =20 >=20 > This particular card I think uses the latest 260.* drivers. That's > according to the nvidia site but sometimes that is not correct either. >=20 > Anyway, I always download the videos off youtube or where ever and then= > watch them with smplayer locally. It generally works better for the > most part. I just have the slow DSL so it skips a bit on some if I > don't download it first. I do need a faster CPU but want to get the > card first. I do sometimes max out the CPU when watching a video but I= > think most of the time it is the card that is just getting old and need= s > a new one that is a little faster at least. For the price, I was going= > to get a card that is a good bit faster. >=20 [...] Ah, in that case tweaking your mplayer config might really help. Look at the man page for options (-vo gl:...). You really have to try every option and sometimes reasonable combinations. I've found that even if the man page says it is a slow option, sometimes it's the fastest. As I've said before, you will reach the maximum number of texture units in your card, therefore certain options will not work together but the man page tells you how many texture units each option needs. With that info it should be easy to tweak your settings. To get you going, try mplayer -vo gl:yuv=3D2:lscale=3D1:cscale=3D1 = Don't forget to test it in fullscreen mode. You can later apply these options either in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf or in ~/.mplayer/config like this: "vo=3Dgl:yuv=3D2:lscale=3D1:cscale=3D1" Hope this helps, Florian Philipp --------------enigB9A3BB56AA3FC0963923AF87 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAky9kjcACgkQqs4uOUlOuU+RfQCcD8eh6GgZ0wbLtHxAL+p4UG77 eikAn1Qo0RaB8yOY/OUPlmc1EfIxt4wV =cXof -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB9A3BB56AA3FC0963923AF87--