* [gentoo-user] dev-util/autotoolset
@ 2010-10-05 8:25 dhk
2010-10-05 8:44 ` Dale
2010-10-05 9:28 ` Alan McKinnon
0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: dhk @ 2010-10-05 8:25 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
What should I do about dev-util/autotoolset? I use it every day for a
project, but today it looks like I'm being told to remove it. What is
the alternative?
In my package.keywords file I have "dev-util/autotoolset ~amd64"
unmasked since I use autotools for a project.
After the output of "emerge -uDNp world" this morning the following
message is displayed.
!!! The following installed packages are masked:
- dev-util/autotoolset-0.11.4-r1 (masked by: package.mask)
/usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
# Diego E. Pettenò <flameeyes@gentoo.org> (04 Oct 2010)
# on behalf of QA team
#
# Ironically, it is misusing autotools (bug #255831). It was
# added in 2004 and never version bumped since; autotools
# have since evolved a fair amount, while this is based
# still on automake 1.6. Avoid keeping it around.
#
# Removal on 2010-12-03
For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
As stated above, what should I "Avoid keeping it around?" Is it
autotoolset, automake 1.6, ...? Also, what's getting removed on
2010-12-03? If autotoolset is removed, what should be used to build
projects?
Even though I have autotoolset installed, search shows it as being masked.
# emerge --search autotoolset
Searching...
[ Results for search key : autotoolset ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]
* dev-util/autotoolset [ Masked ]
Latest version available: 0.11.4-r1
Latest version installed: 0.11.4-r1
Size of files: 1,133 kB
Homepage: http://autotoolset.sourceforge.net/
Description: colection of small tools to simplify project
development with autotools
License: GPL-2
What to do now?
Thanks,
dhk
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* Re: [gentoo-user] dev-util/autotoolset
2010-10-05 8:25 [gentoo-user] dev-util/autotoolset dhk
@ 2010-10-05 8:44 ` Dale
2010-10-05 9:33 ` dhk
2010-10-05 9:28 ` Alan McKinnon
1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2010-10-05 8:44 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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dhk wrote:
> What should I do about dev-util/autotoolset? I use it every day for a
> project, but today it looks like I'm being told to remove it. What is
> the alternative?
>
> In my package.keywords file I have "dev-util/autotoolset ~amd64"
> unmasked since I use autotools for a project.
>
> After the output of "emerge -uDNp world" this morning the following
> message is displayed.
>
> !!! The following installed packages are masked:
> - dev-util/autotoolset-0.11.4-r1 (masked by: package.mask)
> /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
> # Diego E. Pettenò<flameeyes@gentoo.org> (04 Oct 2010)
> # on behalf of QA team
> #
> # Ironically, it is misusing autotools (bug #255831). It was
> # added in 2004 and never version bumped since; autotools
> # have since evolved a fair amount, while this is based
> # still on automake 1.6. Avoid keeping it around.
> #
> # Removal on 2010-12-03
>
> For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
> man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
>
> As stated above, what should I "Avoid keeping it around?" Is it
> autotoolset, automake 1.6, ...? Also, what's getting removed on
> 2010-12-03? If autotoolset is removed, what should be used to build
> projects?
>
> Even though I have autotoolset installed, search shows it as being masked.
>
> # emerge --search autotoolset
> Searching...
> [ Results for search key : autotoolset ]
> [ Applications found : 1 ]
>
> * dev-util/autotoolset [ Masked ]
> Latest version available: 0.11.4-r1
> Latest version installed: 0.11.4-r1
> Size of files: 1,133 kB
> Homepage: http://autotoolset.sourceforge.net/
> Description: colection of small tools to simplify project
> development with autotools
> License: GPL-2
>
>
> What to do now?
>
> Thanks,
>
> dhk
>
>
Here are a couple options. Subscribe to -dev and see if you can take
over maintaining the package. Then do whatever needs to be done to get
it updated and keep it stable. If you can do that, they could let the
package stay in the tree.
Next option, copy the ebuild to a local overlay and maintain it there.
Keep in mind, doing this is about the same as above except it affects
just you. You do all the work locally.
One other option, use different tools to do your project. I don't know
anything about autotoolset or what it does but there may be better tools
to use.
If you don't do one of the above, autotoolses ebuild will be removed and
you will eventually have to do something because there will be no more
updates. Which appears to be the case now anyway. No updates since 2004.
There's some options. Someone else may have a couple more.
Dale
:-) :-)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] dev-util/autotoolset
2010-10-05 8:25 [gentoo-user] dev-util/autotoolset dhk
2010-10-05 8:44 ` Dale
@ 2010-10-05 9:28 ` Alan McKinnon
2010-10-05 10:33 ` dhk
1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Alan McKinnon @ 2010-10-05 9:28 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Apparently, though unproven, at 10:25 on Tuesday 05 October 2010, dhk did
opine thusly:
> What should I do about dev-util/autotoolset? I use it every day for a
> project, but today it looks like I'm being told to remove it. What is
> the alternative?
>
> In my package.keywords file I have "dev-util/autotoolset ~amd64"
> unmasked since I use autotools for a project.
>
> After the output of "emerge -uDNp world" this morning the following
> message is displayed.
>
> !!! The following installed packages are masked:
> - dev-util/autotoolset-0.11.4-r1 (masked by: package.mask)
> /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
> # Diego E. Pettenò <flameeyes@gentoo.org> (04 Oct 2010)
> # on behalf of QA team
> #
> # Ironically, it is misusing autotools (bug #255831). It was
> # added in 2004 and never version bumped since; autotools
> # have since evolved a fair amount, while this is based
> # still on automake 1.6. Avoid keeping it around.
> #
> # Removal on 2010-12-03
>
> For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
> man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
>
> As stated above, what should I "Avoid keeping it around?" Is it
> autotoolset, automake 1.6, ...? Also, what's getting removed on
> 2010-12-03? If autotoolset is removed, what should be used to build
> projects?
The text applies to autotoolset and the reason it is being removed. It is
autotoolset that is not being kept around anymore.
It's actually quite obvious once you calm down, get over your fright, and read
the message.
You do not need autotoolset to build projects. You need autotools which is not
the same thing.
> Even though I have autotoolset installed, search shows it as being masked.
>
> # emerge --search autotoolset
> Searching...
> [ Results for search key : autotoolset ]
> [ Applications found : 1 ]
>
> * dev-util/autotoolset [ Masked ]
> Latest version available: 0.11.4-r1
> Latest version installed: 0.11.4-r1
> Size of files: 1,133 kB
> Homepage: http://autotoolset.sourceforge.net/
> Description: colection of small tools to simplify project
> development with autotools
> License: GPL-2
>
>
> What to do now?
Why are you worried? You use autotools not autotoolset. Let the thing be
removed, After 6 years of no updates you shouldn't be using it anyway.
--
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] dev-util/autotoolset
2010-10-05 8:44 ` Dale
@ 2010-10-05 9:33 ` dhk
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: dhk @ 2010-10-05 9:33 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 10/05/2010 04:44 AM, Dale wrote:
> dhk wrote:
>> What should I do about dev-util/autotoolset? I use it every day for a
>> project, but today it looks like I'm being told to remove it. What is
>> the alternative?
>>
>> In my package.keywords file I have "dev-util/autotoolset ~amd64"
>> unmasked since I use autotools for a project.
>>
>> After the output of "emerge -uDNp world" this morning the following
>> message is displayed.
>>
>> !!! The following installed packages are masked:
>> - dev-util/autotoolset-0.11.4-r1 (masked by: package.mask)
>> /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
>> # Diego E. Pettenò<flameeyes@gentoo.org> (04 Oct 2010)
>> # on behalf of QA team
>> #
>> # Ironically, it is misusing autotools (bug #255831). It was
>> # added in 2004 and never version bumped since; autotools
>> # have since evolved a fair amount, while this is based
>> # still on automake 1.6. Avoid keeping it around.
>> #
>> # Removal on 2010-12-03
>>
>> For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
>> man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
>>
>> As stated above, what should I "Avoid keeping it around?" Is it
>> autotoolset, automake 1.6, ...? Also, what's getting removed on
>> 2010-12-03? If autotoolset is removed, what should be used to build
>> projects?
>>
>> Even though I have autotoolset installed, search shows it as being
>> masked.
>>
>> # emerge --search autotoolset
>> Searching...
>> [ Results for search key : autotoolset ]
>> [ Applications found : 1 ]
>>
>> * dev-util/autotoolset [ Masked ]
>> Latest version available: 0.11.4-r1
>> Latest version installed: 0.11.4-r1
>> Size of files: 1,133 kB
>> Homepage: http://autotoolset.sourceforge.net/
>> Description: colection of small tools to simplify project
>> development with autotools
>> License: GPL-2
>>
>>
>> What to do now?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> dhk
>>
>>
>
> Here are a couple options. Subscribe to -dev and see if you can take
> over maintaining the package. Then do whatever needs to be done to get
> it updated and keep it stable. If you can do that, they could let the
> package stay in the tree.
>
> Next option, copy the ebuild to a local overlay and maintain it there.
> Keep in mind, doing this is about the same as above except it affects
> just you. You do all the work locally.
>
> One other option, use different tools to do your project. I don't know
> anything about autotoolset or what it does but there may be better tools
> to use.
>
> If you don't do one of the above, autotoolses ebuild will be removed and
> you will eventually have to do something because there will be no more
> updates. Which appears to be the case now anyway. No updates since 2004.
>
> There's some options. Someone else may have a couple more.
>
> Dale
>
> :-) :-)
>
This isn't good. It sounds like my project is in deep trouble since the
whole build and distribution is done with the autotools. Taking over
and maintaining the package is an option, but I think it will be gone
before I can get up to speed on it. I wonder how many developers out
there have an interest in it if it's that antiquated. Personally I
think it's a great tool. Anyone know what other tools are being used to
build and distribute programs with dependencies?
Thanks,
dhk
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] dev-util/autotoolset
2010-10-05 9:28 ` Alan McKinnon
@ 2010-10-05 10:33 ` dhk
2010-10-05 11:34 ` Alan McKinnon
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: dhk @ 2010-10-05 10:33 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 10/05/2010 05:28 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Apparently, though unproven, at 10:25 on Tuesday 05 October 2010, dhk did
> opine thusly:
>
>> What should I do about dev-util/autotoolset? I use it every day for a
>> project, but today it looks like I'm being told to remove it. What is
>> the alternative?
>>
>> In my package.keywords file I have "dev-util/autotoolset ~amd64"
>> unmasked since I use autotools for a project.
>>
>> After the output of "emerge -uDNp world" this morning the following
>> message is displayed.
>>
>> !!! The following installed packages are masked:
>> - dev-util/autotoolset-0.11.4-r1 (masked by: package.mask)
>> /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
>> # Diego E. Pettenò <flameeyes@gentoo.org> (04 Oct 2010)
>> # on behalf of QA team
>> #
>> # Ironically, it is misusing autotools (bug #255831). It was
>> # added in 2004 and never version bumped since; autotools
>> # have since evolved a fair amount, while this is based
>> # still on automake 1.6. Avoid keeping it around.
>> #
>> # Removal on 2010-12-03
>>
>> For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
>> man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
>>
>> As stated above, what should I "Avoid keeping it around?" Is it
>> autotoolset, automake 1.6, ...? Also, what's getting removed on
>> 2010-12-03? If autotoolset is removed, what should be used to build
>> projects?
>
> The text applies to autotoolset and the reason it is being removed. It is
> autotoolset that is not being kept around anymore.
>
> It's actually quite obvious once you calm down, get over your fright, and read
> the message.
>
> You do not need autotoolset to build projects. You need autotools which is not
> the same thing.
>
>> Even though I have autotoolset installed, search shows it as being masked.
>>
>> # emerge --search autotoolset
>> Searching...
>> [ Results for search key : autotoolset ]
>> [ Applications found : 1 ]
>>
>> * dev-util/autotoolset [ Masked ]
>> Latest version available: 0.11.4-r1
>> Latest version installed: 0.11.4-r1
>> Size of files: 1,133 kB
>> Homepage: http://autotoolset.sourceforge.net/
>> Description: colection of small tools to simplify project
>> development with autotools
>> License: GPL-2
>>
>>
>> What to do now?
>
> Why are you worried? You use autotools not autotoolset. Let the thing be
> removed, After 6 years of no updates you shouldn't be using it anyway.
>
>
>
So are you saying if I remove autotoolset that I'll still have autoconf,
automake, and the rest; and everything will work the same? I thought
all the autotools were in autotoolset. I guess I don't know the
difference between autotools and autotoolset and what they are made up of.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] dev-util/autotoolset
2010-10-05 10:33 ` dhk
@ 2010-10-05 11:34 ` Alan McKinnon
2010-10-05 14:01 ` BRM
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Alan McKinnon @ 2010-10-05 11:34 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user; +Cc: dhk
Apparently, though unproven, at 12:33 on Tuesday 05 October 2010, dhk did
opine thusly:
> On 10/05/2010 05:28 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > Apparently, though unproven, at 10:25 on Tuesday 05 October 2010, dhk did
> >
> > opine thusly:
> >> What should I do about dev-util/autotoolset? I use it every day for a
> >> project, but today it looks like I'm being told to remove it. What is
> >> the alternative?
> >>
> >> In my package.keywords file I have "dev-util/autotoolset ~amd64"
> >> unmasked since I use autotools for a project.
> >>
> >> After the output of "emerge -uDNp world" this morning the following
> >> message is displayed.
> >>
> >> !!! The following installed packages are masked:
> >> - dev-util/autotoolset-0.11.4-r1 (masked by: package.mask)
> >> /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
> >> # Diego E. Pettenò <flameeyes@gentoo.org> (04 Oct 2010)
> >> # on behalf of QA team
> >> #
> >> # Ironically, it is misusing autotools (bug #255831). It was
> >> # added in 2004 and never version bumped since; autotools
> >> # have since evolved a fair amount, while this is based
> >> # still on automake 1.6. Avoid keeping it around.
> >> #
> >> # Removal on 2010-12-03
> >>
> >> For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
> >> man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
> >>
> >> As stated above, what should I "Avoid keeping it around?" Is it
> >> autotoolset, automake 1.6, ...? Also, what's getting removed on
> >> 2010-12-03? If autotoolset is removed, what should be used to build
> >> projects?
> >
> > The text applies to autotoolset and the reason it is being removed. It is
> > autotoolset that is not being kept around anymore.
> >
> > It's actually quite obvious once you calm down, get over your fright, and
> > read the message.
> >
> > You do not need autotoolset to build projects. You need autotools which
> > is not the same thing.
> >
> >> Even though I have autotoolset installed, search shows it as being
> >> masked.
> >>
> >> # emerge --search autotoolset
> >> Searching...
> >> [ Results for search key : autotoolset ]
> >> [ Applications found : 1 ]
> >>
> >> * dev-util/autotoolset [ Masked ]
> >>
> >> Latest version available: 0.11.4-r1
> >> Latest version installed: 0.11.4-r1
> >> Size of files: 1,133 kB
> >> Homepage: http://autotoolset.sourceforge.net/
> >> Description: colection of small tools to simplify project
> >>
> >> development with autotools
> >>
> >> License: GPL-2
> >>
> >> What to do now?
> >
> > Why are you worried? You use autotools not autotoolset. Let the thing be
> > removed, After 6 years of no updates you shouldn't be using it anyway.
>
> So are you saying if I remove autotoolset that I'll still have autoconf,
> automake, and the rest; and everything will work the same? I thought
> all the autotools were in autotoolset. I guess I don't know the
> difference between autotools and autotoolset and what they are made up of.
autotools != autotoolset
The description from eix that you yourself posted tells you as much.
Run "equery files autotoolset" and see what is in the package. Decide for
yourself if you want to keep it and if so move the ebuild to your local
overlay where you can maintain it for yourself.
--
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] dev-util/autotoolset
2010-10-05 11:34 ` Alan McKinnon
@ 2010-10-05 14:01 ` BRM
2010-10-07 8:01 ` dhk
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: BRM @ 2010-10-05 14:01 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
----- Original Message ----
> From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Cc: dhk <dhkuhl@optonline.net>
> Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 7:34:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] dev-util/autotoolset
>
> Apparently, though unproven, at 12:33 on Tuesday 05 October 2010, dhk did
> opine thusly:
>
> > On 10/05/2010 05:28 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > Apparently, though unproven, at 10:25 on Tuesday 05 October 2010, dhk did
> > >
> > > opine thusly:
> > >> What should I do about dev-util/autotoolset? I use it every day for a
> > >> project, but today it looks like I'm being told to remove it. What is
> > >> the alternative?
> > >>
> > >> In my package.keywords file I have "dev-util/autotoolset ~amd64"
> > >> unmasked since I use autotools for a project.
> > >>
> > >> After the output of "emerge -uDNp world" this morning the following
> > >> message is displayed.
> > >>
> > >> !!! The following installed packages are masked:
> > >> - dev-util/autotoolset-0.11.4-r1 (masked by: package.mask)
> > >> /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
> > >> # Diego E. Pettenò <flameeyes@gentoo.org> (04 Oct 2010)
> > >> # on behalf of QA team
> > >> #
> > >> # Ironically, it is misusing autotools (bug #255831). It was
> > >> # added in 2004 and never version bumped since; autotools
> > >> # have since evolved a fair amount, while this is based
> > >> # still on automake 1.6. Avoid keeping it around.
> > >> #
> > >> # Removal on 2010-12-03
> > >>
> > >> For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
> > >> man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
> > >>
> > >> As stated above, what should I "Avoid keeping it around?" Is it
> > >> autotoolset, automake 1.6, ...? Also, what's getting removed on
> > >> 2010-12-03? If autotoolset is removed, what should be used to build
> > >> projects?
> > >
> > > The text applies to autotoolset and the reason it is being removed. It
is
> > > autotoolset that is not being kept around anymore.
> > >
> > > It's actually quite obvious once you calm down, get over your fright, and
> > > read the message.
> > >
> > > You do not need autotoolset to build projects. You need autotools which
> > > is not the same thing.
> > >
> > >> Even though I have autotoolset installed, search shows it as being
> > >> masked.
> > >>
> > >> # emerge --search autotoolset
> > >> Searching...
> > >> [ Results for search key : autotoolset ]
> > >> [ Applications found : 1 ]
> > >>
> > >> * dev-util/autotoolset [ Masked ]
> > >>
> > >> Latest version available: 0.11.4-r1
> > >> Latest version installed: 0.11.4-r1
> > >> Size of files: 1,133 kB
> > >> Homepage: http://autotoolset.sourceforge.net/
> > >> Description: colection of small tools to simplify project
> > >>
> > >> development with autotools
> > >>
> > >> License: GPL-2
> > >>
> > >> What to do now?
> > >
> > > Why are you worried? You use autotools not autotoolset. Let the thing be
> > > removed, After 6 years of no updates you shouldn't be using it anyway.
> >
> > So are you saying if I remove autotoolset that I'll still have autoconf,
> > automake, and the rest; and everything will work the same? I thought
> > all the autotools were in autotoolset. I guess I don't know the
> > difference between autotools and autotoolset and what they are made up of.
>
>
> autotools != autotoolset
>
> The description from eix that you yourself posted tells you as much.
>
> Run "equery files autotoolset" and see what is in the package. Decide for
> yourself if you want to keep it and if so move the ebuild to your local
> overlay where you can maintain it for yourself.
Reading over the website it seems almost as if it is a fork of GNU autotools.
http://autotoolset.sourceforge.net/
But to the original question - if they do not remain installed then you can
always install them individually as well.
Ben
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* Re: [gentoo-user] dev-util/autotoolset
2010-10-05 14:01 ` BRM
@ 2010-10-07 8:01 ` dhk
2010-10-07 9:41 ` Willie Wong
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: dhk @ 2010-10-07 8:01 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 10/05/2010 10:01 AM, BRM wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----
>
>> From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
>> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
>> Cc: dhk <dhkuhl@optonline.net>
>> Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 7:34:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] dev-util/autotoolset
>>
>> Apparently, though unproven, at 12:33 on Tuesday 05 October 2010, dhk did
>> opine thusly:
>>
>>> On 10/05/2010 05:28 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>>> Apparently, though unproven, at 10:25 on Tuesday 05 October 2010, dhk did
>>>>
>>>> opine thusly:
>>>>> What should I do about dev-util/autotoolset? I use it every day for a
>>> >> project, but today it looks like I'm being told to remove it. What is
>>>>> the alternative?
>>>>>
>>>>> In my package.keywords file I have "dev-util/autotoolset ~amd64"
>>>>> unmasked since I use autotools for a project.
>>>>>
>>>>> After the output of "emerge -uDNp world" this morning the following
>>> >> message is displayed.
>>>>>
>>>>> !!! The following installed packages are masked:
>>>>> - dev-util/autotoolset-0.11.4-r1 (masked by: package.mask)
>>>>> /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
>>>>> # Diego E. Pettenò <flameeyes@gentoo.org> (04 Oct 2010)
>>>>> # on behalf of QA team
>>>>> #
>>> >> # Ironically, it is misusing autotools (bug #255831). It was
>>> >> # added in 2004 and never version bumped since; autotools
>>> >> # have since evolved a fair amount, while this is based
>>> >> # still on automake 1.6. Avoid keeping it around.
>>>>> #
>>>>> # Removal on 2010-12-03
>>>>>
>>>>> For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
>>> >> man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
>>>>>
>>> >> As stated above, what should I "Avoid keeping it around?" Is it
>>>>> autotoolset, automake 1.6, ...? Also, what's getting removed on
>>>>> 2010-12-03? If autotoolset is removed, what should be used to build
>>>>> projects?
>>>>
>>>> The text applies to autotoolset and the reason it is being removed. It
> is
>>>> autotoolset that is not being kept around anymore.
>>>>
>>>> It's actually quite obvious once you calm down, get over your fright, and
>>>> read the message.
>>>>
>>>> You do not need autotoolset to build projects. You need autotools which
>>>> is not the same thing.
>>>>
>>>>> Even though I have autotoolset installed, search shows it as being
>>>>> masked.
>>>>>
>>>>> # emerge --search autotoolset
>>>>> Searching...
>>>>> [ Results for search key : autotoolset ]
>>> >> [ Applications found : 1 ]
>>>>>
>>>>> * dev-util/autotoolset [ Masked ]
>>>>>
>>>>> Latest version available: 0.11.4-r1
>>>>> Latest version installed: 0.11.4-r1
>>>>> Size of files: 1,133 kB
>>>>> Homepage: http://autotoolset.sourceforge.net/
>>>>> Description: colection of small tools to simplify project
>>> >>
>>>>> development with autotools
>>>>>
>>> >> License: GPL-2
>>> >>
>>>>> What to do now?
>>>>
>>>> Why are you worried? You use autotools not autotoolset. Let the thing be
>>>> removed, After 6 years of no updates you shouldn't be using it anyway.
>>>
>>> So are you saying if I remove autotoolset that I'll still have autoconf,
>>> automake, and the rest; and everything will work the same? I thought
>>> all the autotools were in autotoolset. I guess I don't know the
>>> difference between autotools and autotoolset and what they are made up of.
>>
>>
>> autotools != autotoolset
>>
>> The description from eix that you yourself posted tells you as much.
>>
>> Run "equery files autotoolset" and see what is in the package. Decide for
>> yourself if you want to keep it and if so move the ebuild to your local
>> overlay where you can maintain it for yourself.
>
> Reading over the website it seems almost as if it is a fork of GNU autotools.
>
> http://autotoolset.sourceforge.net/
>
> But to the original question - if they do not remain installed then you can
> always install them individually as well.
>
> Ben
>
>
>
I thought all the auto tools were in the autotoolset, that's not the
case. It looks like the only tool I use in autotoolset is acmkdir. If
I remove autotoolset, how can I get acmkdir back? Even though it's not
necessary, it's a nice tool for starting a project.
Thanks,
dhk
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* Re: [gentoo-user] dev-util/autotoolset
2010-10-07 8:01 ` dhk
@ 2010-10-07 9:41 ` Willie Wong
2010-10-07 10:23 ` dhk
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Willie Wong @ 2010-10-07 9:41 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 04:01:14AM -0400, dhk wrote:
>
> I thought all the auto tools were in the autotoolset, that's not the
> case. It looks like the only tool I use in autotoolset is acmkdir. If
> I remove autotoolset, how can I get acmkdir back? Even though it's not
> necessary, it's a nice tool for starting a project.
I have somewhat of a suspicious that `acmkdir' may be just a shell
script? (Never used it, so I don't know.) If so then you can just find
it on your system and copy it to /usr/local/bin or something like that
(it possibly copies the templates from somewhere else, so you will
need to find those also).
Note that it may make use of deprecated autotool commands, and if not
updated, may break in the future.
HTH,
W
--
Willie W. Wong wwong@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire
et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
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* Re: [gentoo-user] dev-util/autotoolset
2010-10-07 9:41 ` Willie Wong
@ 2010-10-07 10:23 ` dhk
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: dhk @ 2010-10-07 10:23 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 10/07/2010 05:41 AM, Willie Wong wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 04:01:14AM -0400, dhk wrote:
>>
>> I thought all the auto tools were in the autotoolset, that's not the
>> case. It looks like the only tool I use in autotoolset is acmkdir. If
>> I remove autotoolset, how can I get acmkdir back? Even though it's not
>> necessary, it's a nice tool for starting a project.
>
> I have somewhat of a suspicious that `acmkdir' may be just a shell
> script? (Never used it, so I don't know.) If so then you can just find
> it on your system and copy it to /usr/local/bin or something like that
> (it possibly copies the templates from somewhere else, so you will
> need to find those also).
>
> Note that it may make use of deprecated autotool commands, and if not
> updated, may break in the future.
>
> HTH,
>
> W
>
Yes, it is a shell script. It makes the necessary files and directories
to get start a project. After running it with a name for your project
directory you get something like the following in that directory.
AUTHORS config COPYING m4 README src
autom4te.cache configure doc Makefile.am README.in THANKS
ChangeLog configure.ac INSTALL NEWS reconf
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