From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OxGrb-0005q7-3p for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:11:15 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 53C94E00C2; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:10:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f181.google.com (mail-gx0-f181.google.com [209.85.161.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB02E00C2 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:10:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk1 with SMTP id 1so2066798gxk.40 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+9zNyy76iEtSjjucZY4ALyNPztxhYNJrmcllWSElAgs=; b=kyMPY4B8sMRebAsGsu3xZqsQJ0nLAXGER9HwFbIdXS6Nf0CzkVcrAvJybTap7JPpGf kJjAHrspzbJ1JYU0yKWIcr/8WRnTlCuyr+LYOt5cYCsgJAg0jM5Y68Y8nswvB6TxyLqi duhARLk+6uqPJAU6wQKfn4ADjdeGexGnCxGAA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sE6SSP4NXROOis4X1ql96mq0G78fEEm4qVd3kKkpa7nVnOyPxOBxdU2DKzLPq6xUgg H1BnzlbFIb8DT7UFajcMkDuBix4Is9PX/9nWhJvCTznPKTFSxg5sX0GLNAImwddaJwjS 2S2GnKC2MrcSmmQx8x0Ih+19WDK6Cb7yk4SV8= Received: by 10.100.197.3 with SMTP id u3mr7768058anf.208.1284891038785; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (adsl-240-57-132.jan.bellsouth.net [74.240.57.132]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e18sm10078115ana.35.2010.09.19.03.10.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 19 Sep 2010 03:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C95E19B.2090703@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:10:35 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.13) Gecko/20100916 Gentoo/2.0.8 SeaMonkey/2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE ridiculous memory usage References: <4C94D075.6040508@f_philipp.fastmail.net> <201009191025.07004.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <4C95D49A.3090202@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 5fa2a306-e97a-4829-86c8-e80d3129fc12 X-Archives-Hash: 124f7ba9c14bad83e0b5fe8331849194 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 09/19/2010 12:15 PM, Dale wrote: >> Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>> On 09/19/2010 11:25 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>>> Apparently, though unproven, at 16:45 on Saturday 18 September 2010, >>>> Florian >>>> Philipp did opine thusly: >>>> >>>>> Hi list! >>>>> >>>>> I have a bit of a problem. I'm on KDE-4.4.5 and it eats memory for >>>>> breakfast. Directly after booting, everything is okay but the usage >>>>> grows significantly. I wonder whether this is expected behavior. >>>>> >>>>> The following statistics have been taken after 8 days of uptime >>>>> during >>>>> which the system was on standby most of the time during work days >>>>> and at >>>>> night. >>>>> >>>>> free -m >>>>> total used free shared buffers cached >>>>> Mem: 3754 3588 165 0 57 258 >>>>> -/+ buffers/cache: 3271 482 >>>>> Swap: 6142 978 5163 >>>>> [...] >>>> >>>> Like I posted in another thread today, the memory columns in top do >>>> not mean >>>> what most people think they mean, nor are they simplistic. >>> >>> However, the values reported by "free -m" are somewhat useful and >>> indicate that something is very wrong with memory consumption on his >>> system. >>> >> >> This is my free -m: >> >> root@smoker / # free -m >> total used free shared buffers cached >> Mem: 2024 1934 89 0 380 657 >> -/+ buffers/cache: 896 1127 >> Swap: 478 0 478 >> root@smoker / # >> >> I have less memory installed but if I understand this correctly, I have >> more trouble than he does. > > Why? It reports 896MB usage vs 3271MB in Florian's system. Looks > pretty normal to me. > I THINK I read he was up for about 8 days. I had just booted up a little bit ago. Looking at the Mem line, I am using almost all of my memory already. I was also keeping in mind that the OP has about double the memory that I have. I'm just not sure what exactly is wrong with his either. It was more of a question than anything. He is using a lot of swap but that can be adjusted by setting the swappiness file with a lower value IF he wants to do that. I have mine set to 20 or so. I prefer to keep as much in memory as possible but at the same time, I don't want to crash if say GIMP gets a little memory hungry when I open 300 images all at once. I did that once. It took a while. lol I was always told that Linux uses memory a lot better than most other OS's especially M$. Cache as much as possible and run faster which means it will use all the memory at some point. Mine does that way and always has. Since the kernel handles all this, I'm not sure what the OP can do to fix anything unless it is a kernel bug. Then a upgrade may be the sure. I guess? Dale :-) :-)