From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OmuWy-0004hQ-6T for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:19:08 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD4E3E0A81; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:18:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.213.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC735E0A81 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:18:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxh35 with SMTP id 35so2526070yxh.40 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 13:18:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LaZAr2x7vMU1P6RjqPupx7oXUdQXDyldNNMtktkk3D4=; b=XjSzO7H/or44TiR14K0gYPWA5Fa7RCUfwrb8hjY9tct9s9nu6WK3AdXJ9ygpg89jSF QBECZ9kQd0YxFtY8I4Ny0N2EptcfqfSMfGSR8oFctZS3V51Zt92SUsMXgif+HzlW9bJ4 J2nZeca7Sf0D0ovs9Io3Lw5ImlDx6YJo5cwWM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gaiKhw5fkJloCS33UUJIl6kvrig0MDXTqI0XI4x6aZo03d0VtCv3CXceOq1fgp92/x cgT0HOCFHkD3lwDI+Ke4Swfsixp/c9rNmn1QSGnAPSX+LPRH89DA7cNjZXu2YQ1Peprz fXZjTBIQBvDnOOIjZtISASOdfoRX4ToRfV0jQ= Received: by 10.100.31.7 with SMTP id e7mr3459934ane.58.1282421918501; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 13:18:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (adsl-0-124-203.jan.bellsouth.net [65.0.124.203]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c19sm7193395ana.2.2010.08.21.13.18.36 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 21 Aug 2010 13:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C70349B.1030302@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:18:35 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100801 Gentoo/2.0.6 SeaMonkey/2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] --buildpkg and doing a dry run on a upgrade References: <4C6FB126.4020708@gmail.com> <201008211401.52130.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201008211401.52130.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: af05f196-a0fc-45ad-b7ba-3c84c1191347 X-Archives-Hash: 6b2301e2ff571ba8a4c303ea5785b822 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 12:57 on Saturday 21 August 2010, Dale did > opine thusly: > > >> Hi, >> >> I'm wanting to install the latest KDE 4.5 which is in the kde overlay. >> I got everything unmasked, keyworded and ready to go. Since this is a >> large upgrade and will take some time to compile, I would like to just >> build the binaries then come back and install them when the compiling is >> all done. The emerge man page says this: >> >> --buildpkgonly (-B) >> Creates binary packages for all ebuilds processed without actually >> merging the packages. This comes with the caveat that all build-time >> dependencies must already be emerged on the system. >> >> The part that I have a question on is the dependencies. Will portage be >> able to build all the packages when the previous packages are not >> installed yet? My thinking says this won't work but looking for a >> second opinion from a more "seasoned" guru. >> > > Here's excellent advice: > > Do not install KDE-4.5 yet > > wait for 4.5.1 > > First, it's in an overlay, so when 4.5 hits the tree you will unmerge the > whole lot again and redo it. How many spare cycles you got? > > If you have 4.4.5 installed from portage you will likely hit clashes with the > overlay. There's were never pleasant in the 4.[23] era, I don't see that > changing. > > 4.5.0 has some pretty severe regressions, bad enough for QA to not put it in > the tree > > 4.5.0 does not have the kdepim suite - this might not apply to you. I can just > imagine the akonadi updates when 4.5.1 hits the tree.... > > You gotta ask yourself "Is there a COMPELLING need for 4.5.0 other than it's > brand new and shiny?" > > I did some googlin last night and ran across some blog. I think it was on KDE's website but anyway. The blog said about the same thing you said. It appears to be a . . . . mess. ;-) Any idea when 4.5.1 will be in the tree even if masked/keyworded? Dale :-) :-) < Dale is going to remove the overlay now >