public inbox for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Bill Longman <bill.longman@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Rooted/compromised Gentoo, seeking advice - AKA passwords
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:11:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C632000.7020800@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201008112230.26977.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>

On 08/11/2010 01:30 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> I refuse to implement password expiration policies and have a vast array of 
> literature to back me up when some dimwit damager gets on his expiration high 
> horse.
> 
> My users pick their own passwords - I present a list of 5 from apg and let 
> them pick one. Accounts do expire if they go unused for 90 days, but not 
> passwords.
> 
> What put me onto this policy? I found Gartner recommending password 
> expiration. I find the best security possible is always the opposite of what 
> Gartner says. Discovering how the AD admins in the company go about their jobs 
> was the convincing straw :-)

The bigger buggerboo I see is the "password complexity" [il]logic.
There's this vapid requirement of all these different types of
characters needed in one's password, yet the thing you really want to
enforce is adequate entropy. If my password is an entire sentence, it
will not be brute-forced, even if I used just ASCII A-z. There's just
too much key space in 4.7^32. At 10^5 attempts per second, you're likely
to find the answer in half a billion years. I hope your keyboard still
works, let alone exists....



  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-11 23:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-09 16:25 [gentoo-user] Rooted/compromised Gentoo, seeking advice Paul Hartman
2010-08-09 16:48 ` Alan McKinnon
2010-08-09 18:48   ` Paul Hartman
2010-08-09 18:59 ` [gentoo-user] " 7v5w7go9ub0o
2010-08-09 19:08   ` Paul Hartman
2010-08-09 19:46   ` Mick
2010-08-10 13:50     ` Kyle Bader
2010-08-09 19:09 ` [gentoo-user] " Mick
2010-08-09 20:08   ` Robert Bridge
2010-08-09 20:20     ` Bill Longman
2010-08-10  0:30       ` Kevin O'Gorman
2010-08-10  1:18         ` William Hubbs
2010-08-10  6:42           ` Alan McKinnon
2010-08-10 13:03           ` Kevin O'Gorman
2010-08-10 18:50             ` Alan McKinnon
2010-08-10 19:22               ` Hazen Valliant-Saunders
2010-08-10 23:23                 ` Peter Humphrey
2010-08-11 16:55                 ` Stroller
2010-08-11 18:16                   ` Dale
2010-08-11 20:30                     ` Alan McKinnon
2010-08-11 22:11                       ` Bill Longman [this message]
2010-08-11 23:09                         ` [gentoo-user] Rooted/compromised Gentoo, seeking advice - AKA passwords Alan McKinnon
2010-08-12  4:30                           ` Bill Longman
2010-08-12 13:01                       ` [gentoo-user] Rooted/compromised Gentoo, seeking advice Stroller
2010-08-12 19:21                         ` Alan McKinnon
2010-08-12 19:43                           ` Peter Humphrey
2010-08-12 20:14                             ` Alan McKinnon
2010-08-12 12:56                     ` Stroller
2010-08-13  2:11                       ` Dale
2010-08-11 16:58               ` Stroller
2010-08-11 20:26                 ` Alan McKinnon
2010-08-09 20:25     ` Dale
2010-08-09 21:22       ` Mick
2010-08-09 22:19         ` Dale
2010-08-09 21:17     ` Philip Webb
2010-08-09 23:07   ` Paul Hartman
2010-08-10  2:14     ` Frank Steinmetzger
2010-08-10  2:24       ` Indexer
2010-08-11  1:05       ` Walter Dnes
2010-08-11  2:16         ` Dale
2010-08-11  4:36           ` Walter Dnes
2010-08-11  5:37             ` Dale
2010-08-10  2:30     ` Keith Dart
2010-08-10  3:06 ` Adam Carter

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=4C632000.7020800@gmail.com \
    --to=bill.longman@gmail.com \
    --cc=gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox