From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Od3tN-0008AY-NT for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:17:38 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A45CE07EE; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:17:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.admin-box.com (mx01.admin-box.com [78.47.249.108]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7AAFE07EE for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx01.admin-box.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B69306E419 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:17:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx01.admin-box.com Received: from mx01.admin-box.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx01.admin-box.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oWBBsmOwvDb6 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:17:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maya.local (g231105147.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.231.105.147]) (Authenticated sender: daniel@troeder.de) by mx01.admin-box.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 903D230002EC for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:17:17 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C4C638C.70404@admin-box.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:17:16 +0200 From: Daniel Troeder User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100627 Thunderbird/3.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] State of Radeon drivers References: <4C4C5F89.2010505@f_philipp.fastmail.net> In-Reply-To: <4C4C5F89.2010505@f_philipp.fastmail.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 OpenPGP: id=BB9D4887; url=http://pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de/pks/lookup?search=0xBB9D4887&op=get Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7529F4727AFC4CE779BA94CD" X-Archives-Salt: b2d2ad61-9468-4d21-b24a-9337cca42661 X-Archives-Hash: b0109a066be47abfe95a43fd3d43a991 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7529F4727AFC4CE779BA94CD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/25/2010 06:00 PM, Florian Philipp wrote: > Hi list! >=20 > I have a quick question: I plan to buy a notebook with an ATI Mobility > Radeon HD 4250. How well would that one work? Can I reasonably expect > Suspend2Ram, 3d acceleration etc to work stable? >=20 > Thanks in advance! > Florian Philipp >=20 Open Source (x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati) and Close Source drivers (x11-drivers/ati-drivers) do both work with suspend2ram. =46rom this mailing list (my post) 06/24/2010 10:22 AM +0200, Subject "Re= : [gentoo-user] ATI RV710/730" in regards to ATI only: -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ATI: 3D is very good - a must for gaming, 2D is SLOW! (thou they did something about that with 10.6 - experience differs for users - its said that window management is fast now, but video still has tearing effect [also my exp.]) Latest driver (10.6) work with xorg-server-1.7.x only and kernel module has problems with >=3D2.6.34 (exp. differ). Xorg: 3D is basic and very slow but works (the newer the driver/server the better, development is VERY fast), 2D is a dream (very fast, no tearing with video)! Driver is released with Xorg - so work always with newest Xorg, kernel module is in-kernel - work always with newest kernel :) Driver supports both KMS and user space MS. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= So... for buying... if u need only 2D (and basic 3d) -> intel. If you want to play games: nvidia or ati/amd... The OSS-driver 4 ATI is MUCH more mature and ATI/AMD gives out documentation and also develops - work is going very well, but will take time for 3d to catch up. Still for OSS -> ATI. The closed source drivers of nvidia are much better (very fast match new kernels and Xorg releases) than the closed source drivers of ati (they are like a year behind kernel/xorg releases)! So if you plan on being always on closed source drivers (because you game often or use 3D-software for modeling or so) then x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers works better. The nvidia driver also offers hardware accelerated HD-video playback (1080p H264 -> only 10% CPU, rest in GPU). Bye, Daniel --=20 PGP key @ http://pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de/pks/lookup?search=3D0xBB9D4887&op=3Dg= et # gpg --recv-keys --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net 0xBB9D4887 --------------enig7529F4727AFC4CE779BA94CD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxMY4wACgkQg3+4tbudSIfz4gCeNgaJDXTokW8yIiqDI6FxbEDD qkcAoIE5HNKqkgkuLSvPt5+vO9EhQqMP =+Ib5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7529F4727AFC4CE779BA94CD--