From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ObkC7-0000C5-C6 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:03:27 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 13B91E0C79 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:03:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.213.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408FAE0BC4 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:03:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxm8 with SMTP id 8so2899440yxm.40 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:03:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XpH16TMX/LtYztylZbFnpx7fKzQnDoi7tdHvZUN3cG0=; b=Tcues7ON/+sMVx2DUV/73QGCqoHFp+eHbz64N3BT4LmGyGjR5KWcxeE06E62iNp3Dc +eh6T/1m1TcsiSdJwacKxlr4Nlsjc5YUt7+Jgaymo1+53+BorcFrUhhGXU4WrU0oOUwt Jcpo17ZMkpDyToWQVHKHcLoU8h6WMtROwNA9k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=o1drC4DkzMCRfGeKjqSxfyPJUiBDt0ry02BiIUpbu7CsdCdeRF+5aJKMpeqVtZq8Jx jlqsjW47eG8ANTVZLSrSZY7TADqzMxC6fzLBkd8SukDOVPvhBrGo4NIwZkdsxOcYjKF9 bTOg6V5V9pmVFQdGzPj/v0Nsy6rSa+dMQC0Ig= Received: by 10.100.31.13 with SMTP id e13mr1165543ane.13.1279756997416; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (adsl-95-147-114.jan.bellsouth.net [98.95.147.114]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q7sm49914973anf.26.2010.07.21.17.03.16 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C478AC3.10006@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:03:15 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100630 Gentoo/2.0.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] lazy gcc switching References: <4c46b57fc965d2.14838702@wp.pl> <201007212139.30701.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <4C47721D.1040808@gmail.com> <201007220108.41971.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201007220108.41971.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: b493a927-eea4-4af6-aafc-b7b225b2f1ce X-Archives-Hash: d887edef04f3107d4374a91759d4ff28 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Thursday 22 July 2010 00:18:05 Bill Longman wrote: > >> On 07/21/2010 12:39 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >>> On Wednesday 21 July 2010 17:49:46 Bill Longman wrote: >>> >>>> And to play devil's advocate, I'll chime in with my experience. The 4.4 >>>> GCC, at least on AMD CPUs, creates noticeably faster code. I recompiled >>>> all my packages after I upgraded to 4.4 and it was a noticeable >>>> difference. >>>> >>>> But, to make perfectly clear what Alan and Dale have stated previously, >>>> it is not a requirement to recompile anything. The binaries that are >>>> created still call the same system calls as they did before. The kernel >>>> still publishes them in the same locations. And to prove to yourself >>>> this is true, grab a statically linked binary, compiled for a stock >>>> standard i686, and run it on your machine. >>>> >>> I'd love to be able to experience the speedups of gcc-4.4 and by rights I >>> should be able to - my last "rip gentoo apart and put it back together >>> again" stunt needed an emerge -e world to fix it all. >>> >>> But, and this is the bit that makes me cry, the slowdown from KDE-4.4.5 >>> has obliterated all that advantage several times over..... >>> >>> raster *really* needs to hurrry up now and release e17 >>> >> Might I suggest a small hardware upgrade: >> >> http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron6100/SR56x0/H8QGi-F.cfm >> > Might I submit that that will be a tad difficult to squeez into this: > > # dmidecode | grep -B3 "Product Name" > Handle 0x0100, DMI type 1, 27 bytes > System Information > Manufacturer: Dell Inc. > Product Name: XPS M1530 > > > :-) > > Heck, the mobo most likely cost more than your whole laptop. Froogle reports over $700.00 for that thing. O_O I wouldn't want the light bill for that thing tho. I would like to see foldingathome running on it. LOL Gkrellm would be fun to watch. Dale :-) :-)