From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ObiNB-0005kz-7U for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:06:45 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF570E0D51 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:06:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-px0-f181.google.com (mail-px0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2A0E0C6A for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi19 with SMTP id 19so4543802pxi.40 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:18:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ehmwxozv1XAMmjCBVX62vTZrJIVjQyFxDV8Tqb4xK30=; b=klkDemK6RdfNIsLfBdOCXzd9R9Rbr/9IoOuRnRIMZ8AibrAeq84GYLA0xoazWHluAP Ydw2fLM0DwZtk3QXkqBL80z4kjSqPVmBQcWPyFIZBwPmu30ceJo1MJTogJzjpU/3vI8s uXWEyDbCeC6dLeAuCXO0L8iyD8FaS0sNBIpm0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=R6R8l6XaQdeE9hSaM3udEXPKE8D5j07eIlvmigLEm80iRektOBp00BIb5GSxD2bJ8P T3MLXttLdNVa+soNwG9L8lxFZDcqaXszQ5V+IBmwVeLGT05AZU7FeIqh3UAUNoa6yrGa ZMUNuWnEFftntYWz7URu+ULe8hftYgT6P/Yyg= Received: by 10.114.78.3 with SMTP id a3mr1442851wab.12.1279750688523; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.12] ([209.20.133.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c10sm86003123wam.1.2010.07.21.15.18.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C47721D.1040808@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:18:05 -0700 From: Bill Longman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100717 Thunderbird/3.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] lazy gcc switching References: <4c46b57fc965d2.14838702@wp.pl> <4C46CA6D.3080608@gmail.com> <4C47171A.5000501@gmail.com> <201007212139.30701.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201007212139.30701.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 9d390afa-8b74-4776-9564-f6cd89638e9e X-Archives-Hash: 08f3bb93022d71694d970973398bcea7 On 07/21/2010 12:39 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wednesday 21 July 2010 17:49:46 Bill Longman wrote: >> And to play devil's advocate, I'll chime in with my experience. The 4.4 >> GCC, at least on AMD CPUs, creates noticeably faster code. I recompiled >> all my packages after I upgraded to 4.4 and it was a noticeable >> difference. >> >> But, to make perfectly clear what Alan and Dale have stated previously, >> it is not a requirement to recompile anything. The binaries that are >> created still call the same system calls as they did before. The kernel >> still publishes them in the same locations. And to prove to yourself >> this is true, grab a statically linked binary, compiled for a stock >> standard i686, and run it on your machine. > > I'd love to be able to experience the speedups of gcc-4.4 and by rights I > should be able to - my last "rip gentoo apart and put it back together again" > stunt needed an emerge -e world to fix it all. > > But, and this is the bit that makes me cry, the slowdown from KDE-4.4.5 has > obliterated all that advantage several times over..... > > raster *really* needs to hurrry up now and release e17 Might I suggest a small hardware upgrade: http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron6100/SR56x0/H8QGi-F.cfm