[gentoo-user] xorg-server 1.7.6 without mouse and keyboard

[gentoo-user] xorg-server 1.7.6 without mouse and keyboard

[Tamer Higazi]

  Hi people!
After upgrading my system, xorg-server 1.7.6 is on my system. I 
regenrated the config file Xorg -configure. The display is shown 
proparly with everything around it but I don't have a mice and keyboard.

How do I get the mouse and keyboard to run. I followed the steps from 
the official gentoo xorg guide, and nothing changed.

Any ideas?!


for any I help I would kindly thank you.



Tamer Higazi

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server 1.7.6 without mouse and keyboard

[Mark Knecht]

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Tamer Higazi <th982a@googlemail.com> wrote:
>  Hi people!
> After upgrading my system, xorg-server 1.7.6 is on my system. I regenrated
> the config file Xorg -configure. The display is shown proparly with
> everything around it but I don't have a mice and keyboard.
>
> How do I get the mouse and keyboard to run. I followed the steps from the
> official gentoo xorg guide, and nothing changed.
>
> Any ideas?!
>
>
> for any I help I would kindly thank you.
>
>
>
> Tamer Higazi

What's in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?

For me this problem is typical caused by 1 of 2 things:

1) I've upgraded the kernel (in you case maybe xorg) and I've
forgotten to rebuild mouse & keyboard

2) Something has changed WRT hal.

Either way it's always been resolved using modules-rebuild -X rebuiild
which rebuilds (for me) a list of 9 packages. You could test the
theory by rebuilding (at a minimum)

xorg-drivers
xf86-input-mouse
xf86-input-keyboard
xf86-input-evdev

Hope this helps,
Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server 1.7.6 without mouse and keyboard

[Willie Wong]

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 05:57:14PM +0200, Tamer Higazi wrote:
> After upgrading my system, xorg-server 1.7.6 is on my system. I 
> regenrated the config file Xorg -configure. The display is shown 
> proparly with everything around it but I don't have a mice and keyboard.
> 
> How do I get the mouse and keyboard to run. I followed the steps from 
> the official gentoo xorg guide, and nothing changed.
> 
> Any ideas?!

(1) Please post your xorg.conf
(2) Please show the output of emerge -pv xorg-server

Cheers, 
W
-- 
Willie W. Wong                                     wwong@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire 
         et vice versa   ~~~  I. Newton

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server 1.7.6 without mouse and keyboard

[Hung Dang]

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 uOn 07/13/10 10:45, Willie Wong wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 05:57:14PM +0200, Tamer Higazi wrote:
>> After upgrading my system, xorg-server 1.7.6 is on my system. I 
>> regenrated the config file Xorg -configure. The display is shown 
>> proparly with everything around it but I don't have a mice and keyboard.
>>
>> How do I get the mouse and keyboard to run. I followed the steps from 
>> the official gentoo xorg guide, and nothing changed.
>>
>> Any ideas?!
> (1) Please post your xorg.conf
> (2) Please show the output of emerge -pv xorg-server
>
> Cheers, 
> W
You may need to rebuild the x11-drivers (emerge `qlist -I -C
x11-drivers/`).

Hung

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server 1.7.6 without mouse and keyboard

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 17:57:14 +0200, Tamer Higazi wrote:

> After upgrading my system, xorg-server 1.7.6 is on my system. I 
> regenrated the config file Xorg -configure. The display is shown 
> proparly with everything around it but I don't have a mice and keyboard.

What happens if you use the old xorg.conf. What does /var/log/Xorg.0.log
show?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Death to all fanatics!

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server 1.7.6 without mouse and keyboard (solved)

[Tamer Higazi]

Hi Mark!
you were entirely right, the problem were the input drivers.

There three packages I remerged:

xf86-input-mouse
xf86-input-keyboard
xf86-input-evdev

and the problem was gone.


Tamer

Am 13.07.2010 18:45, schrieb Mark Knecht:
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Tamer Higazi <th982a@googlemail.com> wrote:
>   
>>  Hi people!
>> After upgrading my system, xorg-server 1.7.6 is on my system. I regenrated
>> the config file Xorg -configure. The display is shown proparly with
>> everything around it but I don't have a mice and keyboard.
>>
>> How do I get the mouse and keyboard to run. I followed the steps from the
>> official gentoo xorg guide, and nothing changed.
>>
>> Any ideas?!
>>
>>
>> for any I help I would kindly thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tamer Higazi
>>     
> What's in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
>
> For me this problem is typical caused by 1 of 2 things:
>
> 1) I've upgraded the kernel (in you case maybe xorg) and I've
> forgotten to rebuild mouse & keyboard
>
> 2) Something has changed WRT hal.
>
> Either way it's always been resolved using modules-rebuild -X rebuiild
> which rebuilds (for me) a list of 9 packages. You could test the
> theory by rebuilding (at a minimum)
>
> xorg-drivers
> xf86-input-mouse
> xf86-input-keyboard
> xf86-input-evdev
>
> Hope this helps,
> Mark
>
>   

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server 1.7.6 without mouse and keyboard (solved)

[Mark Knecht]

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Tamer Higazi <th982a@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi Mark!
> you were entirely right, the problem were the input drivers.
>
> There three packages I remerged:
>
> xf86-input-mouse
> xf86-input-keyboard
> xf86-input-evdev
>
> and the problem was gone.
>
>
> Tamer

Glad it worked. Investigate modules-rebuild as it keeps track of these
things and does it for you pretty easily. Here's what's in my list:

c2stable ~ # module-rebuild list
** Packages which I will emerge are:
        =x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.7
        =x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.3.2
        =x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.13.0
        =x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.2
        =x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.4.0
        =x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse-1.5.0
        =x11-drivers/xf86-video-vmware-11.0.1
        =media-libs/mesa-7.8.1
        =app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.26
c2stable ~ #

The first time you add modules you have to specify the currently
installed package. After it's set up you run it telling the program to
disregard the package rev:

modules-rebuild -X rebuild

and it all gets done.

Cheers,
Mark

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server 1.7.6 without mouse and keyboard (solved)

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 07/13/2010 08:14 PM, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Tamer Higazi<th982a@googlemail.com>  wrote:
>> Hi Mark!
>> you were entirely right, the problem were the input drivers.
>>
>> There three packages I remerged:
>>
>> xf86-input-mouse
>> xf86-input-keyboard
>> xf86-input-evdev
>>
>> and the problem was gone.
>>
>>
>> Tamer
>
> Glad it worked. Investigate modules-rebuild as it keeps track of these
> things and does it for you pretty easily. Here's what's in my list:
>
> c2stable ~ # module-rebuild list
> ** Packages which I will emerge are:
>          =x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.7
>          =x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.3.2
>          =x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.13.0
>          =x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.2
>          =x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.4.0
>          =x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse-1.5.0
>          =x11-drivers/xf86-video-vmware-11.0.1
>          =media-libs/mesa-7.8.1

All of the above are not kernel modules. Kernel updates don't affect 
them, only xorg-server updates do.


>          =app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.26

Only this is affected by kernel updates.

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server 1.7.6 without mouse and keyboard (solved)

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 07/13/2010 08:01 PM, Tamer Higazi wrote:
> Hi Mark!
> you were entirely right, the problem were the input drivers.
>
> There three packages I remerged:
>
> xf86-input-mouse
> xf86-input-keyboard
> xf86-input-evdev
>
> and the problem was gone.

Portage tells you to do exactly that after updating xorg-server.  It 
might be a good idea to check the messages so that you can read whether 
you are required to do something after emerging/updating something.  You 
can use elogv (pp-portage/elogv) for that.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server 1.7.6 without mouse and keyboard (solved)

[Mark Knecht]

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de> wrote:
> On 07/13/2010 08:14 PM, Mark Knecht wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Tamer Higazi<th982a@googlemail.com>
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mark!
>>> you were entirely right, the problem were the input drivers.
>>>
>>> There three packages I remerged:
>>>
>>> xf86-input-mouse
>>> xf86-input-keyboard
>>> xf86-input-evdev
>>>
>>> and the problem was gone.
>>>
>>>
>>> Tamer
>>
>> Glad it worked. Investigate modules-rebuild as it keeps track of these
>> things and does it for you pretty easily. Here's what's in my list:
>>
>> c2stable ~ # module-rebuild list
>> ** Packages which I will emerge are:
>>         =x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.7
>>         =x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.3.2
>>         =x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.13.0
>>         =x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.2
>>         =x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.4.0
>>         =x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse-1.5.0
>>         =x11-drivers/xf86-video-vmware-11.0.1
>>         =media-libs/mesa-7.8.1
>
> All of the above are not kernel modules. Kernel updates don't affect them,
> only xorg-server updates do.
>
>
>>         =app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.26
>
> Only this is affected by kernel updates.
>

No disagreement on that, but frankly it doesn't matter to me. It
works. Takes about 1 minute to rebuild these files. I don't care (as a
user type) why I have to do it. I do it and my machine works. It
covers kernel and xorg updates. That's OK with me.

Or maybe you're just pointing this out to the OP?

I suspect I might have failed with the same problem as the OP myself
this morning had I used not it. There was an xorg-driver update that
didn't update all the input devices in my make.conf file. (evdev
specifically) This command did. Maybe I didn't need to rebuild evdev
after an sorg-driver update but I suspect you'd agree it's safer if I
do.

Sometimes the tools take care of things that are just oversights.
Matters not that I shouldn't have to do it. Matters more that the
machine works.

Cheers,
Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server 1.7.6 without mouse and keyboard (solved)

[Dale]

Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 07/13/2010 08:01 PM, Tamer Higazi wrote:
>> Hi Mark!
>> you were entirely right, the problem were the input drivers.
>>
>> There three packages I remerged:
>>
>> xf86-input-mouse
>> xf86-input-keyboard
>> xf86-input-evdev
>>
>> and the problem was gone.
>
> Portage tells you to do exactly that after updating xorg-server.  It 
> might be a good idea to check the messages so that you can read 
> whether you are required to do something after emerging/updating 
> something.  You can use elogv (pp-portage/elogv) for that.
>
>

And if you have a GUI installed, elogviewer is pretty nice too.  I have 
both, just in case the GUI don't start.  ;-)  It happens.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server 1.7.6 without mouse and keyboard (solved)

[Rod]

On 14/07/2010 3:01 AM, Tamer Higazi wrote:
> Hi Mark!
> you were entirely right, the problem were the input drivers.
>
> There three packages I remerged:
>
> xf86-input-mouse
> xf86-input-keyboard
> xf86-input-evdev
>
> and the problem was gone.
>
>
> Tamer
>    

     I found that the problem (on mine at least) was that evdev was the 
problem and had to be re-emerged on the system (after doing the mouse 
and keyboard several times with no luck, and trying to figure out why in 
the xorg.log files it was telling me it couldn't find evdev