From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-112483-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1OVeo4-0008Po-P8 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2010 06:05:29 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A9C63E0A95; Mon, 5 Jul 2010 06:05:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gw0-f53.google.com (mail-gw0-f53.google.com [74.125.83.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8555FE0A95 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 5 Jul 2010 06:05:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwb19 with SMTP id 19so2677599gwb.40 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 04 Jul 2010 23:05:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HCTUFcEPoXzl6zXIpNUFsPxf215HISfTtC7M6apDlk4=; b=HUP4nOomRJMnU17t07kSUKfKkYeRfql/jYuKo1fYnZ4TwiAWmQrxhxxWjuS9t0QokD waKuq0yT8k0UlIUZ0/wwS8bWGVRSOD7jpBdavspC1dvAACAFVtwi2rPllaHM7D5VQ8/b RqWX7d2LKXa6g0Z+OAt1kpwhVROUr+aZN4PdI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=iP43v1UOLf7F/6Jku+hbVYV7ux8IJtgC4FR7kcCbSFRBvUSAAeKzNqvLoi5Pvxqgzr BvCxsT2I+WyY5g1pLEVGDTyXQURJ9lPDMpfQfcqlK2Oa3//ajh5mSstH5gV5NgCWoDSi +BxTb+0EeIWkBkieFPUpgFTColtZ7TQHQMNQw= Received: by 10.101.141.15 with SMTP id t15mr3028099ann.51.1278309907218; Sun, 04 Jul 2010 23:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (adsl-0-121-159.jan.bellsouth.net [65.0.121.159]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t30sm34685903ann.27.2010.07.04.23.05.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 04 Jul 2010 23:05:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C317611.8060209@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 01:05:05 -0500 From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100630 Gentoo/2.0.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Stable users: libpng-1.4 References: <201006292356.56520.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <201006302217.29690.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <201006302352.14268.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <20100701010550.GA10553@math.princeton.edu> <20100704125211.GA12340@ca.inter.net> <4C30B5D4.7060704@gmail.com> <20100704191005.GB23296@ca.inter.net> <4C30F2C8.6030800@gmail.com> <i0rpkb$a2q$2@dough.gmane.org> In-Reply-To: <i0rpkb$a2q$2@dough.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 128cb239-3e88-4634-b1ef-f1664297a0b2 X-Archives-Hash: ad892ffa0893bab2645000be5d162c03 Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2010-07-04, Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Philip Webb wrote: >> >>> 100704 Dale wrote: >>> >>> >>>> My KDE wouldn't start either. Actually, kdm wouldn't start. >>>> Sort of have to have one to get to the other. >>>> I didn't like the idea of not having my GUI either. >>>> >>>> >>> That's why I stopped using a GUI login many years ago (smile). >>> I login to a raw terminal, then 'startx': avoids lots of troubles. >>> >> Wouldn't help if KDE wouldn't load tho. >> > The point is that if you always start with a text login, it's easy to > log in and fix whatever keeps X/KDE from working. That's why I gave > up on graphical logins about 15 years ago. > > The reason it wouldn't load is that a LOT of packages, including KDE, needed to be recompiled after the libpng upgrade. I already knew that. Text or GUI login would not matter. Recompiling the packages was fixing the problem already so having a text login wouldn't help on that either. When I run into a problem with the GUi loading, I just do a ctrl alt F1, log in and fix it. That is my text login trick. I can also check the X logs that way too. It seems to me that the way you are doing is the hard way. I just type in my password to log in and it appears you have to log in on a console, type a command then let it load. I'll keep my way. I like it easy when possible then do it the hard way if I run into a problem that requires it. Dale :-) :-)