From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OTxye-0003kq-JO for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:09:24 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1AC78E09C6; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:08:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pw0-f53.google.com (mail-pw0-f53.google.com [209.85.160.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4674E09C6 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj9 with SMTP id 9so295369pwj.40 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:08:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; bh=KX32r3aFGrGFFh83Zy38XBlXncaXe55S/jYbFUptz2s=; b=J6ib/wwbvHssn4NaKen6LRivBkEQoSOm1xwc8YIXTexoDBjIe+HjVYLSi6Ji+9JhYM pgGSHCSTINvz1qH5x5k+ONpdHnkVAH8X1rwg9ETUGBAr/moGEFCUUgYo6EN2uel2CdTM 3nY/ICGP64uPrEtcxtQRbRdV65rBLbChoPkWY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; b=K/yfZXrracEQQydsG+2Hboh3ZGiQVxak3yYypBq6SX0l4gqimeh5pF1wP+thlzgeZP bUhDvuJCncI7XFQL5S2aOzo4RVx9uMVt6/NNOB5Kev6g88UouIE5T56Mpbez0s00/oO9 Fhgbb32Fj6SZAACSYug8eG/dShadfO7mxkSg4= Received: by 10.142.248.9 with SMTP id v9mr10418236wfh.6.1277906517220; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.110] (cpe-76-93-114-89.socal.res.rr.com [76.93.114.89]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b2sm9069822rvn.19.2010.06.30.07.01.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C2B4E52.2080102@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:01:54 -0700 From: Andy Wilkinson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100618 Thunderbird/3.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Minimal Gentoo with X References: <4C2B4B47.9090603@gmx.ch> In-Reply-To: <4C2B4B47.9090603@gmx.ch> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000108030101030100040709" X-Archives-Salt: 6f450212-2b83-41db-9c88-3349b2463d04 X-Archives-Hash: 1f9883eb3a68131c72f04650c4e56fa3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000108030101030100040709 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/30/10 06:48, Shoka wrote: > Hello group, > > I'm trying to build kind of a minimal gentoo setup with X support. All = I > need is > > - X11 and a Window Manager > - Mozilla Firefox > - Lighttpd > > I use Gnome at this time. > > du reports the following directories as the biggest directories on my > system: > > /usr/lib 418 MB > /usr/portage 1200 MB > /usr/share 550 MB > /usr/src 560 MB (Kernel Sources) > > The other directories are very small. > > I think, the system is quite heavy in size, isn't it? I really would > like to be able to shrink it down but not loosing functionality. > > Now I'm looking for tips to reduce disk consumption further. I've > already cleaned /usr/portage/distfiles. > > I read that removing the whole /usr/portage after setting up the system > is not a good idea. Is that true? > > May be someone could recommend a better window manager (smaller in size= , > stable)? > > I really appreciate any kind of recommendation to this topic. > > > Kind regards, > Andr=C3=A9 > > > =20 If you're looking to save size in /usr/portage, you might consider squashing it ( http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Squashed_Portage_Tree).=20 Portage is a few hundred thousand files IIRC and most filesystems don't cope with that very well. My portage sqfs is one file about 47 MB.=20 This has the side effect of making portage lookups a lot faster, as well, since it's all kept in RAM. It's a bit of work, and adds complexity to kernel upgrades, but it's been worthwhile for me. Also, Gnome is not a particularly minimal or light desktop environment. In fact, quite the opposite. You could probably save a lot of space by switching to xfce or lxde or something like that, if you don't need all of the fluff in Gnome. There's also a gnome-light meta that cuts out some of the extras, if you want to keep the Gnome look-and-feel. I'm using xfce after a long time with Gnome and didn't find the transition difficult at all. I did wind up compiling a few of my gnome-specific tools (banshee, gthumb in particular) which brought in some gnome libraries, but the gnome meta still offers to pull in about a hundred new packages. -Andy --------------000108030101030100040709 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/30/10 06:48, Shoka wrote: 
Hello group,

I'm trying to build kind of a minimal gentoo setup with X support. All I
need is

- X11 and a Window Manager
- Mozilla Firefox
- Lighttpd

I use Gnome at this time.

du reports the following directories as the biggest directories on my
system:

/usr/lib        418 MB
/usr/portage   1200 MB
/usr/share      550 MB
/usr/src        560 MB (Kernel Sources)

The other directories are very small.

I think, the system is quite heavy in size, isn't it? I really would
like to be able to shrink it down but not loosing functionality.

Now I'm looking for tips to reduce disk consumption further. I've
already cleaned /usr/portage/distfiles.

I read that removing the whole /usr/portage after setting up the system
is not a good idea. Is that true?

May be someone could recommend a better window manager (smaller in size,
stable)?

I really appreciate any kind of recommendation to this topic.


Kind regards,
Andr=C3=A9
If you're looking to save size in /usr/portage, you might consider squashing it ( http://e= n.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Squashed_Portage_Tree).=C2=A0 Portage is a few hundred thousand files IIRC and most filesystems don't cope with that very well.=C2=A0 My portage sqfs is one file about 47 MB.=C2= =A0 This has the side effect of making portage lookups a lot faster, as well, since it's all kept in RAM.=C2=A0 It's a bit of work, and adds complexity to kernel upgrades, but it's been worthwhile for me.

Also, Gnome is not a particularly minimal or light desktop environment.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 In fact, quite the opposite.=C2=A0 You cou= ld probably save a lot of space by switching to xfce or lxde or something like that, if you don't need all of the fluff in Gnome.=C2=A0 There's also a gnome-ligh= t meta that cuts out some of the extras, if you want to keep the Gnome look-and-feel.=C2=A0 I'm using xfce after a long time with Gnome and didn= 't find the transition difficult at all.=C2=A0 I did wind up compiling a few= of my gnome-specific tools (banshee, gthumb in particular) which brought in some gnome libraries, but the gnome meta still offers to pull in about a hundred new packages.

-Andy --------------000108030101030100040709--