From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OSrRE-0002WT-WD for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:58:21 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E067E09E0; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:57:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f180.google.com (mail-gx0-f180.google.com [209.85.161.180]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0362FE09E0 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:57:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk26 with SMTP id 26so76917gxk.11 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 05:57:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xW64TYAy3GrfqeZlaatB0Ojhhjd95h5taOhVEq0qlPU=; b=kaDOFuQMJ7KiPJqSrgMMWYGjEJ4mNlEtZT9ifDT/CFCvoCUh5cgW0o/Bgb1RRp5bKL l0oCWR7FAnEh37nANW4+Pc3Z8vaS2Fr5UzgCSMFykC5hlkET9WOVyRpCHZncXu+2oquy cJjReEBVnNP1dkU90TNy9TpUQVD1VJSqSDwvc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=I5TBBaobl4Czfd3KEiOV6S/VsFYLBAk6fxcw7pMmVfLAJsixukio8H3j0GIJkUydsN eTqJMhzQOAS5pEt9NIrBzVv3jTTzm65utfN+fbWFCdCcu57qOU3tjQMFJJfcEpndChQE P5M0zogTRTDqczjF52caB80KqY0LhwnwCAeUE= Received: by 10.101.113.14 with SMTP id q14mr4332854anm.188.1277643460530; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 05:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (adsl-95-147-127.jan.bellsouth.net [98.95.147.127]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y7sm34198023ana.4.2010.06.27.05.57.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 27 Jun 2010 05:57:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C274AC2.4020403@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:57:38 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100622 Gentoo/2.0.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox + gentoo scrolling like a snail References: <201006271112.53711.peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> <201006271211.13803.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201006271211.13803.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 84c7a0c6-ac0a-4dd2-8dd2-05fa5b996283 X-Archives-Hash: 7e44d89dfcdeeadaa62876ba8d5baf52 Mick wrote: > On Sunday 27 June 2010 11:12:53 Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> On Saturday 26 June 2010 16:44:42 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: >> >>> Sometimes, but not always, when I click in the Firefox scrollbar, it >>> starts heading in the right direction in fits and starts of 5 pixels >>> or so until it (finallly) reaches the end. I've mostly observed >>> this in the downward direction, but I mostly scroll in that >>> direction anyway so it might not mean anything. >>> >> I've seen this too, but so rarely that I just blink at it and move on. >> Maybe once or twice a year. >> > I didn't post so far on this thread because like Peter I only rarely have > noticed this. Typically, I noticed this only when the ADSL/wireless > connection is congested or playing up. Essentially, I concluded that I am > asking FF/Konqueror to scroll down a page that it hasn't yet finished > downloading or rendering. Not sure if the latest version is behaving in this > manner. > > I have not noticed Opera suffering from this, probably because it uses a > different model for deciding at which point in the download process it renders > the page. > > PS. Browser engines are programmed to give the impression of speed by > rendering pages *before* they complete downloading. This decision making > process involves the different elements on a page (text, scripts, images, > etc.) and the observed behaviour may be related to the way that FF/Konqueror > treat different elements during a slow download Vis A Vis Opera, or other > browsers that don't suffer as much from this problem. > I have noticed that it does this more often when pages are still loading, especially if they have flash on the page. A good while back, weather.gov was really bad at this. Konqueror and Firefox would scroll fine but I couldn't even read emails when Seamonkey was loading. It would not appear or scroll until it loaded the page completely. I was on dial-up at the time so it was painfully slow. I didn't think about the loading part until Mick wrote this reply. Could this be the issue? They won't scroll until the page loads up? Dale :-) :-)