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From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't get PulseAudio to work
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 09:14:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BF7E6C5.2050406@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ht8nqj$jgu$1@dough.gmane.org>

Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 05/22/2010 04:03 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>> On Samstag 22 Mai 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>> On 05/22/2010 02:24 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>>> On Samstag 22 Mai 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>>>> On 05/22/2010 01:46 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>>>>> On Samstag 22 Mai 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>>>>>> On 05/22/2010 12:34 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Samstag 22 Mai 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>>>>>>>> This installed PulseAudio and rebuilt all applications to drop 
>>>>>>>>> OSS
>>>>>>>>> support and use ALSA or Pulse instead.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> sure?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Never mind, found the problem after googling a lot:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-gnome/2010-January/023768.h 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tm l
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PA does not work without ConsoleKit, yet the ebuild did not pull 
>>>>>>> CK as
>>>>>>> a dep :-/  Will file a bug about it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for the results, it's pretty much as I expected: latency cannot
>>>>>>> compete with OSS4's vmix.  But it isn't worse than stand-alone
>>>>>>> ALSA+dmix though, which is surprising.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another problem: Amarok 2 stopped working.  That is, it loads 
>>>>>>> OK, but
>>>>>>> there's no sound at all when playing something with the Xine 
>>>>>>> backend.
>>>>>>> The Gstreamer backend works, but (as always) sound quality sucks 
>>>>>>> (pops
>>>>>>> and crackles).  Any way to get Phonon-Xine to work with PA?  I 
>>>>>>> tried
>>>>>>> to set "audio.driver:alsa" in ~/.xine/config, but to no avail; 
>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>> no sound.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yeah, with that set it tries to use alsa, not PA.
>>>>>
>>>>> "audio.driver:pulse" also doesn't work :-/
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why again are you wasting your time with PA?
>>>>>
>>>>> Because people claim ALSA+Pulse is better than OSS4.  So I ought to
>>>>> actually try it "with a correct setup, unlike the broken Ubuntu 
>>>>> setup",
>>>>> or else everyone will keep saying I don't know what I'm talking 
>>>>> about.
>>>>
>>>> really? There are people claiming that? ok, everything is better than
>>>> OSS4 - but PA? That crap is almost as bad as ESD.
>>>
>>> Well if I'm going to use ALSA I need something that gives me
>>> per-application volume control since ALSA is too broken to even provide
>>> that while the rest of the world moved on.
>>
>> oh yeah, one other thing:
>> http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Softvol
>>
>> ALSA CAN control the volume of every single app. You just choose to 
>> ignore it.
>> Or you chose not to look for it. Either way, it is there.
>>
>> Without the inherent brokenness of OSS4
>
> You live in your own little world, Armin.  That has nothing to do with 
> per-app volume.  You're as ignorant as ever and I must ask myself why 
> I choose to waste time talking with you, over and over again.
>
> This discussion is over.  Welcome to my killfile.
>
> *plonk*
>

Well, I'm not Armin but it does talk about per-app volume.  This is a 
quote from the link above:

"Another usefull thing you can do is control the volume of every 
application seperatly, even if the application can't do it on its own."

It's the third sentence on the page.  I'm not sure how you could miss 
that.  I need new glasses and have one eye I'm almost blind in and I saw 
that.

You may want to adjust your killfile.

Dale

:-)  :-)



  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-22 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-22  9:29 [gentoo-user] Can't get PulseAudio to work Nikos Chantziaras
2010-05-22  9:34 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-05-22 10:35   ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2010-05-22 10:46     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-05-22 11:14       ` Nikos Chantziaras
2010-05-22 11:24         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-05-22 12:17           ` Nikos Chantziaras
2010-05-22 12:57             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-05-22 13:03             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-05-22 13:57               ` Nikos Chantziaras
2010-05-22 14:14                 ` Dale [this message]
2010-05-22 14:53                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-05-22 14:19                 ` luis jure
2010-05-23  8:34                   ` pk
     [not found] <eMTOy-6rj-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
2010-05-22 11:37 ` [gentoo-user] " David W Noon
2010-05-22 12:26   ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras

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