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From: "Stefan G. Weichinger" <lists@xunil.at>
To: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@medozas.de>
Cc: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org,
	Daniel Troeder <daniel@admin-box.com>,  walt <w41ter@gmail.com>,
	Florian Philipp <lists@f_philipp.fastmail.net>,
	 Jason Dusek <jason.dusek@gmail.com>,
	Till Maas <opensource@till.name>,
	hanno@gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel upgrade and now LUKS failure
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 20:57:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BF2E336.8030106@xunil.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.01.1005181949290.23953@obet.zrqbmnf.qr>

Am 18.05.2010 19:57, schrieb Jan Engelhardt:

>> But given the fact that I store the key on the same hard-disk with the
>> shadowed user-pw I could also leave that openssl-part straight away,
>> correct?? seems the same level of (in)security to me ...
> 
> Yes. The point of keyfiles is to be able to change the password on
> a volume.
> 
> Without a keyfile, a crypto program would take the password, hash it
> somehow, and you get your AES key. Changing the password means having
> a different AES key, meaning decrypting the disk will yield a
> different result. In other words, changing the password would require
> at least reading the old data, reencrypting it and writing it again.
> Takes time.
> 
> With a keyfile, you retain the same AES key all the time, and encrypt
> the AES key itself - reencrypting the AES key is quick, as it's
> only some xyz bits, not terabytes.

Ok, I see. So my current setup with one disk only and SSL-generated
keyfile does not add security but flexibility (being able to switch
passwords more quickly).

Do you see a way of getting this working with my current packages:

pam_mount-2.1
sys-fs/cryptsetup-1.1.1_rc2

and LUKS ... ?

As mentioned the old keyfile works with pam_mount-1.33, when I check the
changelog at

http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/sys-auth/pam_mount/ChangeLog?view=markup

this is a package from 10 Jan 2010, so maybe it wouldn't be too risky to
just mask >pam_mount-1.33

-

On the other hand I would like to get that done right, sure.

Any howto without pmt-ehd that would keep me safe from newlines etc
(btw. there were NO newlines in that hexdump-output)?

Thanks for your time, Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-18 18:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-16 12:36 [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel upgrade and now LUKS failure Jan Engelhardt
2010-05-17  9:14 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-05-17 21:01   ` Daniel Troeder
2010-05-18 13:05   ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-05-18 13:44     ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-05-18 16:04       ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-05-18 16:56         ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-05-18 17:57           ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-05-18 18:57             ` Stefan G. Weichinger [this message]
2010-05-18 19:33               ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-05-18 20:06                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-05-18 20:17                   ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-05-18 21:16                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-05-18 21:49                       ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-05-18 22:23                         ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-05-20 10:25                           ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-05-20 13:40                             ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-05-23 20:37                               ` [gentoo-user] SOLVED: " Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-05-23 21:57                                 ` Mick
2010-05-25 18:44                                   ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-05-18 19:38               ` [gentoo-user] " Eray Aslan
2010-05-21 20:24             ` Daniel Troeder
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-05-03 16:56 [gentoo-user] " Jason Dusek
2010-05-04 10:06 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-05-04 16:54   ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2010-05-04 17:38     ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-05-04 19:28       ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-05-04 21:24         ` Daniel Troeder
2010-05-05  4:42           ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-05-05  8:00             ` Daniel Troeder
2010-05-05  8:42               ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-05-05 19:39                 ` Daniel Troeder
2010-05-05 20:17                   ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-05-05 20:23                     ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-05-06 16:24                       ` Daniel Troeder
2010-05-06 18:38                         ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-05-07  8:53                           ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-05-07 14:24                             ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-05-07 21:14                               ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2010-05-10 16:48                                 ` Daniel Troeder
2010-05-04 23:51       ` walt

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