From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1O9FOH-00031b-Qe for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 04 May 2010 10:30:14 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5E89FE0B60; Tue, 4 May 2010 10:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.9]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E60E0B60 for ; Tue, 4 May 2010 10:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.30] (dslb-188-099-249-025.pools.arcor-ip.net [188.99.249.25]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ME24x-1O9TJ00UeN-00GuSE; Tue, 04 May 2010 12:29:45 +0200 Message-ID: <4BDFF719.5000205@konstantinhansen.de> Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 12:29:45 +0200 From: KH User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100419 Thunderbird/3.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update - why doesn't it update my kde packages References: <20100504094354.GA6232@gentoo_schaapje.arnhem.chello.nl> <20100504101729.GB6232@gentoo_schaapje.arnhem.chello.nl> In-Reply-To: <20100504101729.GB6232@gentoo_schaapje.arnhem.chello.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19cfrnFvh7A+iqU51YhYepPR4vXNRxMVLtRa+E USv1dRrSxaAIO7jgbHY9CQcXcHaXuLn+omkoZwiI4qPfsZjsNR Poi2+p0abgzmk/3QmtRDw== X-Archives-Salt: 0815431c-4b7a-43e4-a08a-2aacdb0abe42 X-Archives-Hash: db589fb6aead4b77ae55b9bc6027000c Am 04.05.2010 12:17, schrieb Bert Swart: > On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 12:09:25PM +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote: >> On 4 May, Bert Swart wrote: >>> On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 10:57:10AM +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> the following situation puzzles me a lot. >>>> >>>> My 'standard' way of updating is >>>> emerge --keep-going -j4 -1 --ask --update --newuse --deep --tree @system @world >>>> >>>> but it didn't update anything. >>>> >>>> Still, eix confirmed there were quite a lot of kde packages which have >>>> newer versions, and indeed, >>>> emerge -auv1 -j4 --keep-going $(qlist -IC kde-base/) >>>> upgraded 24 packages. >>>> >>>> Where does this discrepancy come from? >>> Do you have --with-bdep set in /etc/make.conf? >> >> No. Are you saying that >> emerge --keep-going -j4 -1 --ask --update --newuse --deep --tree --with-bdeps y @system @world >> would have updated my kde packages, as well? > Probably. Sometimes, not all packages are included as dependency > if they are not strictly required. If you do want them to be > upgraded, add --with-bdeps to EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS in > /etc/make.conf. Or, like you did, upgrade them manually... > See also http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/portage/doc/faq.xml Those are packages only required during buildtime. You could unmerge them after upgrading without loosing a funktion. Adding --with-bdeps to EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS might only wast some time and energy. You can also run depclean --with-bdeps (yes/no or something like that) to savely remove them. My point is: If glsa doesn't list one of those packages I don't touch them. Regards kh >> >> Thanks, >> Helmut. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Helmut Jarausch >> >> Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik >> RWTH - Aachen University >> D 52056 Aachen, Germany >> > >