From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1O4UN1-0001SI-S7 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 07:29:16 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F6DEE0AD9; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 07:28:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zion.lichtfels.com (zion.lichtfels.com [88.198.33.170]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D52E0AD9 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 07:28:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zion.lichtfels.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47E3184009 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:28:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zion.lichtfels.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zion [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 12140-09 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:28:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [172.32.99.12] (mail.oops.co.at [213.129.238.225]) by zion.lichtfels.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 1461F184008 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:28:14 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4BCEA90D.8050808@xunil.at> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:28:13 +0200 From: "Stefan G. Weichinger" Organization: oops! User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100410 Lightning/1.0b2pre Thunderbird/3.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-box stopping services References: <4BCD97B0.3050305@xunil.at> <45344215-F2DA-46C6-97A3-117F13C2681D@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <45344215-F2DA-46C6-97A3-117F13C2681D@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-maia at lichtfels.com X-Archives-Salt: 4a066c6f-7ac5-4569-ae53-1adae16f411b X-Archives-Hash: 2ac99e2b1fcd8695ee59d5441a93427a Am 21.04.2010 00:07, schrieb Stroller: > You emphasise how old the hardware is, but this really isn't a > problem. As you say, one increasingly fears the death of a system > which is getting so old, but I have two systems nearly as old running > for years without hardware problems. Yes, it does what it should do. It's just that it gets more probable to have some strange and hidden defects *maybe*. But it would show other symptoms then, I assume. > The questions I must ask are: > > - How uptodate is the Gentoo software? - Do you run updates > regularly? - Did you run any shortly before this started occurring? - > Have you run revdep-rebuild and stuff? - Does the system have > sufficient swap? swap should be OK: # free -m total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 501 484 17 0 16 241 -/+ buffers/cache: 226 275 Swap: 494 288 205 OK, a bit more RAM wouldn't hurt here. But I am compiling stuff right now. - ad updates: I was rather defensive there, I have to admit .. Just like "never touch a running system" ... I updated the relevant pkgs like postfix, samba, clamav ... but there are around 60 pkgs to update today. Stuff like glibc, udev, pam .... I will apply them now step by step ... revdep-rebuild was OK before, I had checked that after the last updates a few days ago. My first idea was to upgrade the kernel to maybe catch some relevant fixes, that was about a week ago. There was no specific update triggering this, in fact I hadn't touched that box for weeks when the responsible man called me to tell me about the new problems ... Stefan