[gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

Hi,

I been using k3b, it has been a while tho, and now it won't burn a DVD.  
It's not a ISO, it just contains a backup tarball.  This is the 
"debugging" output.

Burned media

-----------------------

DVD+RW

Devices

-----------------------

Optiarc DVD RW AD-7200A 1.05 (/dev/hdd, CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, 
DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL) [DVD-ROM, DVD-R 
Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Jump, DVD-RAM, 
DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite, DVD-RW Sequential, DVD+RW, DVD+R, DVD+R 
Dual Layer, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, 
RAW/R16, RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R, Restricted Overwrite, Layer Jump] [%7]

K3b::IsoImager

-----------------------

mkisofs print size result: 2097493 (4295665664 bytes)

System

-----------------------

K3b Version: 1.91.0

KDE Version: 4.4.1 (KDE 4.4.1)

QT Version: 4.6.2

Kernel: 2.6.30-gentoo-r8

Used versions

-----------------------

mkisofs: 2.1.1a77

growisofs: 7.1

growisofs

-----------------------

WARNING: /dev/hdd already carries isofs!

About to execute 'builtin_dd if=/dev/fd/0 of=/dev/hdd obs=32k seek=0'

/dev/hdd: "Current Write Speed" is 4.1x1352KBps.

0/4295665664 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:?? RBU 100.0% UBU 0.0%

=== last message repeated 4 times. ===

:-[ WRITE@LBA=0h failed with SK=3h/POWER CALIBRATION AREA ERROR]: 
Input/output error

:-( write failed: Input/output error

growisofs command:

-----------------------

/usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0 -use-the-force-luke=notray 
-use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=4gms 
-use-the-force-luke=tracksize:2097493 -speed=4 
-use-the-force-luke=bufsize:32m

mkisofs

-----------------------

2097493

/usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot add inode hints with -no-cache-inodes.

=== last message repeated 2 times. ===

0.02% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:09:24 2010

0.05% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:09:24 2010

0.07% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:32:37 2010

0.10% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:26:52 2010

0.12% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:23:18 2010

0.14% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:21:01 2010

0.17% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:19:22 2010

0.19% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:18:08 2010

0.22% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:17:08 2010

0.24% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:16:22 2010

0.26% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:15:45 2010

0.29% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:15:13 2010

0.31% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:14:46 2010

0.33% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:14:23 2010

0.36% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:14:03 2010

0.38% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:13:46 2010

0.41% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:13:30 2010

0.43% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:13:16 2010

0.45% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:13:04 2010

0.48% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:12:53 2010

0.50% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:12:43 2010

0.52% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:12:34 2010

0.55% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:12:26 2010

0.57% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:12:18 2010

0.60% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:12:11 2010

0.62% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:12:05 2010

0.64% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:11:59 2010

0.67% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:11:53 2010

0.69% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:11:48 2010

0.72% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:11:43 2010

0.74% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:11:39 2010

0.76% done, estimate finish Mon Mar 29 20:11:35 2010

mkisofs calculate size command:

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/usr/bin/mkisofs -gui -graft-points -print-size -quiet -volid 
Data_2010.03.29-01.38.44_5 -volset -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 
1998-2010 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND MICHAL MALEK -publisher -preparer -sysid 
LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-dale/k3bZc8327.tmp 
-rational-rock -hide-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bfH8327.tmp -joliet 
-joliet-long -hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bdC8327.tmp 
-no-cache-inodes -udf -full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 3 -path-list 
/tmp/kde-dale/k3bck8327.tmp

mkisofs command:

-----------------------

/usr/bin/mkisofs -gui -graft-points -volid Data_2010.03.29-01.38.44_5 
-volset -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2010 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND 
MICHAL MALEK -publisher -preparer -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 
-volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-dale/k3biU8327.tmp -rational-rock 
-hide-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bVB8327.tmp -joliet -joliet-long 
-hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bAn8327.tmp -no-cache-inodes -udf 
-full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 3 -path-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bEN8327.tmp



I also tried to burn this with tkdvd but it failed too.  I don't think 
the media is bad.  It doesn't appear to be k3b since the other program 
fails too.  I also updated to the latest testing but no difference that 
I can see.  It does sometimes burn and sometimes if I try again it will 
burn but it's not getting any better.

In the regular burning box, it says that mkisofs has crashed.  That part 
is consistent.  If it fails, that is the short version of the error.

Ideas?  Where is our DVD expert?  I need help.  :-)

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:19:02 -0500, Dale wrote:

> I also tried to burn this with tkdvd but it failed too.  I don't think 
> the media is bad.  It doesn't appear to be k3b since the other program 
> fails too.  I also updated to the latest testing but no
> difference that I can see.  It does sometimes burn and sometimes if I
> try again it will burn but it's not getting any better.

K3b is running mkisofs and growisofs at the same time, hence the mixed up
debug output making it hard to see where the error is coming from. Take
the media, drive and growisofs out of the equation by getting K3b to
create an ISO image instead. If that works, write the image to disc with

growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=/path/to/file.iso

At least you'll have a better idea where the problem lies.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Does someone know the cheats for WindowsXP?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[stosss]

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:19:02 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>> I also tried to burn this with tkdvd but it failed too.  I don't think
>> the media is bad.  It doesn't appear to be k3b since the other program
>> fails too.  I also updated to the latest testing but no
>> difference that I can see.  It does sometimes burn and sometimes if I
>> try again it will burn but it's not getting any better.
>
> K3b is running mkisofs and growisofs at the same time, hence the mixed up
> debug output making it hard to see where the error is coming from. Take
> the media, drive and growisofs out of the equation by getting K3b to
> create an ISO image instead. If that works, write the image to disc with
>
> growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=/path/to/file.iso
>
> At least you'll have a better idea where the problem lies.

I once had a problem just like this and it turned out to be bad media.
The generic cheap priced discs don't always work. The more expensive
name brand generally are better because most, if not all of them,
work.

-- 
If we can but prevent the government from wasting the labours of the
people, under the pretence of taking care of them, they must become
happy. - Thomas Jefferson

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

stosss wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Neil Bothwick<neil@digimed.co.uk>  wrote:
>    
>> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:19:02 -0500, Dale wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> I also tried to burn this with tkdvd but it failed too.  I don't think
>>> the media is bad.  It doesn't appear to be k3b since the other program
>>> fails too.  I also updated to the latest testing but no
>>> difference that I can see.  It does sometimes burn and sometimes if I
>>> try again it will burn but it's not getting any better.
>>>        
>> K3b is running mkisofs and growisofs at the same time, hence the mixed up
>> debug output making it hard to see where the error is coming from. Take
>> the media, drive and growisofs out of the equation by getting K3b to
>> create an ISO image instead. If that works, write the image to disc with
>>
>> growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=/path/to/file.iso
>>
>> At least you'll have a better idea where the problem lies.
>>      
> I once had a problem just like this and it turned out to be bad media.
> The generic cheap priced discs don't always work. The more expensive
> name brand generally are better because most, if not all of them,
> work.
>
>    

I doubt it is the media.  I have been using the same brand, Verbatim, 
for ages and never had a failure.  It's even coming from the same box 
and is media that I have used for a previous backup with no issues.  
Each time I have problems burning a DVD, it is something software.  I 
stay away from the really cheap junk.  I learned that from the problems 
people on this list have reported.

While it could be possible, it's not likely.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:19:02 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>    
>> I also tried to burn this with tkdvd but it failed too.  I don't think
>> the media is bad.  It doesn't appear to be k3b since the other program
>> fails too.  I also updated to the latest testing but no
>> difference that I can see.  It does sometimes burn and sometimes if I
>> try again it will burn but it's not getting any better.
>>      
> K3b is running mkisofs and growisofs at the same time, hence the mixed up
> debug output making it hard to see where the error is coming from. Take
> the media, drive and growisofs out of the equation by getting K3b to
> create an ISO image instead. If that works, write the image to disc with
>
> growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=/path/to/file.iso
>
> At least you'll have a better idea where the problem lies.
>
>    

Could I just get rid of one of the programs or are they all part of the 
same package?  I suspect a mismatch of package versions which is why I 
went unstable with k3b and cdrtools.

It is odd that it is trying to run two programs at the same time tho.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Paul Hartman]

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:19:02 -0500, Dale wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I also tried to burn this with tkdvd but it failed too.  I don't think
>>> the media is bad.  It doesn't appear to be k3b since the other program
>>> fails too.  I also updated to the latest testing but no
>>> difference that I can see.  It does sometimes burn and sometimes if I
>>> try again it will burn but it's not getting any better.
>>>
>>
>> K3b is running mkisofs and growisofs at the same time, hence the mixed up
>> debug output making it hard to see where the error is coming from. Take
>> the media, drive and growisofs out of the equation by getting K3b to
>> create an ISO image instead. If that works, write the image to disc with
>>
>> growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=/path/to/file.iso
>>
>> At least you'll have a better idea where the problem lies.
>>
>>
>
> Could I just get rid of one of the programs or are they all part of the same
> package?  I suspect a mismatch of package versions which is why I went
> unstable with k3b and cdrtools.
>
> It is odd that it is trying to run two programs at the same time tho.

My money is on a dying DVD burner/laser...

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:00:06 -0500, Dale wrote:

> > K3b is running mkisofs and growisofs at the same time, hence the
> > mixed up debug output making it hard to see where the error is coming
> > from. Take the media, drive and growisofs out of the equation by
> > getting K3b to create an ISO image instead. If that works, write the
> > image to disc with
> >
> > growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=/path/to/file.iso
> >
> > At least you'll have a better idea where the problem lies.
> >
> >      
> 
> Could I just get rid of one of the programs or are they all part of the 
> same package?  I suspect a mismatch of package versions which is why I 
> went unstable with k3b and cdrtools.
> 
> It is odd that it is trying to run two programs at the same time tho.

Not really, mkisofs is creating the ISO data and growisofs is writing it
to the disc. Basically, the output of mkisofs is piped through growisofs
to the disc. The alternative is to write an ISO image file and then burn
it to disc, which is slower but what I suggested to see where the problem
lies.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

why do kamikazee pilots wear helmets?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:00:06 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>    
>>> K3b is running mkisofs and growisofs at the same time, hence the
>>> mixed up debug output making it hard to see where the error is coming
>>> from. Take the media, drive and growisofs out of the equation by
>>> getting K3b to create an ISO image instead. If that works, write the
>>> image to disc with
>>>
>>> growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=/path/to/file.iso
>>>
>>> At least you'll have a better idea where the problem lies.
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> Could I just get rid of one of the programs or are they all part of the
>> same package?  I suspect a mismatch of package versions which is why I
>> went unstable with k3b and cdrtools.
>>
>> It is odd that it is trying to run two programs at the same time tho.
>>      
> Not really, mkisofs is creating the ISO data and growisofs is writing it
> to the disc. Basically, the output of mkisofs is piped through growisofs
> to the disc. The alternative is to write an ISO image file and then burn
> it to disc, which is slower but what I suggested to see where the problem
> lies.
>
>
>    

OK.  I went back to k3b and tried to burn a Gentoo install disc which is 
a iso image.  This is what it gives when I do that.

Devices
-----------------------
Optiarc DVD RW AD-7200A 1.05 (/dev/hdd, CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, 
DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL) [DVD-ROM, DVD-R 
Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Jump, DVD-RAM, 
DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite, DVD-RW Sequential, DVD+RW, DVD+R, DVD+R 
Dual Layer, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, 
RAW/R16, RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R, Restricted Overwrite, Layer Jump] [%7]

System
-----------------------
K3b Version: 1.91.0
KDE Version: 4.4.1 (KDE 4.4.1)
QT Version:  4.6.2
Kernel:      2.6.30-gentoo-r8

Used versions
-----------------------
cdrecord: 2.1.1a77

cdrecord
-----------------------
scsidev: '/dev/hdd'
devname: '/dev/hdd'
scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported.
Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27
SCSI buffer size: 64512
/usr/bin/cdrecord: Warning: Cannot read drive buffer.
/usr/bin/cdrecord: Warning: The DMA speed test has been skipped.
Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 2.01.01a77 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 
1995-2010 Jörg Schilling
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
Using libscg version 'schily-0.9'.
Driveropts: 'burnfree'
atapi: 1
Device type    : Removable CD-ROM
Version        : 0
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   :
Vendor_info    : 'Optiarc '
Identifikation : 'DVD RW AD-7200A '
Revision       : '1.05'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW/DVD-RAM.
Current: DVD+RW
Profile: DVD+R/DL
Profile: DVD+R
Profile: DVD+RW (current)
Profile: DVD-R/DL layer jump recording
Profile: DVD-R/DL sequential recording
Profile: DVD-RW sequential recording
Profile: DVD-RW restricted overwrite
Profile: DVD-RAM
Profile: DVD-R sequential recording
Profile: DVD-ROM
Profile: CD-RW
Profile: CD-R
Profile: CD-ROM
Profile: Removable Disk
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-3 DVD+RW driver (mmc_dvdplusrw).
Driver flags   : NO-CD DVD MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
Supported modes: PACKET SAO LAYER_JUMP
Drive buf size : 1245184 = 1216 KB
FIFO size      : 4194304 = 4096 KB
Track 01: data  2591 MB
Total size:     2591 MB = 1326592 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
Trying to clear drive status.
Blocks total: 2295104 Blocks current: 2295104 Blocks remaining: 968512
Reducing transfer size from 64512 to 32768 bytes.
Starting to write CD/DVD/BD at speed 4 in real SAO mode for single session.
Last chance to quit, starting real write in 3 seconds.
    2 seconds.
    1 seconds.
    0 seconds. Operation starts.
Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready.
Starting new track at sector: 0
Track 02:    0 of 2591 MB written.
/usr/bin/cdrecord: Success. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error
CDB:  2A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 73 03 00 00
Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x73 Qual 0x03 (power calibration area error) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)
resid: 32768
cmd finished after 17.339s timeout 200s
/usr/bin/cdrecord: A write error occured.
/usr/bin/cdrecord: Please properly read the error message above.
write track data: error after 0 bytes
Writing  time:   22.358s
Average write speed  87.7x.
Fixating...
Fixating time:    0.003s
/usr/bin/cdrecord: fifo had 128 puts and 1 gets.
/usr/bin/cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was 
100%.
BURN-Free was not used.

cdrecord command:
-----------------------
/usr/bin/cdrecord -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/hdd speed=4 -sao 
driveropts=burnfree -data -tsize=1326592s -


This appears to be using cdrecord.  Any ideas?  Should I shoot it?  lol

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

Dale wrote:
>
> OK.  I went back to k3b and tried to burn a Gentoo install disc which 
> is a iso image.  This is what it gives when I do that.
>
> < SNIP >
>
> This appears to be using cdrecord.  Any ideas?  Should I shoot it?  lol
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)

OK.  I thought I would try some different versions of software and see 
what happens.  With the info Neil provided about what does what, I 
thought I would try a different version of cdrtools.  I went to a older 
version and it worked fine on the first try with my backup file.  It is 
as I type burning the second DVD with no errors yet.  I'm using 
cdrtools-2.01.01_alpha57-r1 at the moment.  Maybe this will work.

Dale

:-)  :-)

P. S.  Watch it blow a gasket on the next burn.  ;-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

Dale wrote:
> Dale wrote:
>>
>> OK.  I went back to k3b and tried to burn a Gentoo install disc which 
>> is a iso image.  This is what it gives when I do that.
>>
>> < SNIP >
>>
>> This appears to be using cdrecord.  Any ideas?  Should I shoot it?  lol
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>
> OK.  I thought I would try some different versions of software and see 
> what happens.  With the info Neil provided about what does what, I 
> thought I would try a different version of cdrtools.  I went to a 
> older version and it worked fine on the first try with my backup 
> file.  It is as I type burning the second DVD with no errors yet.  I'm 
> using cdrtools-2.01.01_alpha57-r1 at the moment.  Maybe this will work.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>
> P. S.  Watch it blow a gasket on the next burn.  ;-)

This is hopefully the last update.  I have now burned several DVDs, 
including the ones that failed earlier, with no errors at all.  I guess 
the newer version of cdrtools has some issues which may be why it is not 
in stable yet.  ;-)

I hope the DVD guru saw this and the error just in case he sees what 
needs fixing.  Maybe he is on vacation or something.  :-)

Thanks for the pointer Neil.  It got me fixed in the end.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Mike Edenfield]

On 3/30/2010 1:00 PM, Dale wrote:

> status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
> Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 73 03 00 00
> Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0
> Sense Code: 0x73 Qual 0x03 (power calibration area error) Fru 0x0
> Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)

This part is claiming that your burner was unable to figure out what the
correct power level is for writing to the media.  This is entirely
controlled in hardware, so there is no legitimate reason why your
version of cdrecord should have any effect. It is almost always caused by:

* Bad media
* Bad hardware
* Insufficient power supply

You've basically eliminated #1 by using the same media successfully, and
#3 isn't the kind of thing that just crops up, so I suspect your
recorder is starting to fail.  (It could be as simple as a dirty lens).
 The only question is why older versions of cdrecord continue to work.

Can you post the output from a successful run on the same ISO as this?
It would be helpful to see if cdrecord is using different settings for
the different versions.  In particular, if it defaulted to a lower burn
speed, or didn't enable BURNFREE by default, those may change the power
requirements.

--K

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

Mike Edenfield wrote:
> On 3/30/2010 1:00 PM, Dale wrote:
>
>    
>> status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
>> Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 73 03 00 00
>> Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0
>> Sense Code: 0x73 Qual 0x03 (power calibration area error) Fru 0x0
>> Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)
>>      
> This part is claiming that your burner was unable to figure out what the
> correct power level is for writing to the media.  This is entirely
> controlled in hardware, so there is no legitimate reason why your
> version of cdrecord should have any effect. It is almost always caused by:
>
> * Bad media
> * Bad hardware
> * Insufficient power supply
>
> You've basically eliminated #1 by using the same media successfully, and
> #3 isn't the kind of thing that just crops up, so I suspect your
> recorder is starting to fail.  (It could be as simple as a dirty lens).
>   The only question is why older versions of cdrecord continue to work.
>
> Can you post the output from a successful run on the same ISO as this?
> It would be helpful to see if cdrecord is using different settings for
> the different versions.  In particular, if it defaulted to a lower burn
> speed, or didn't enable BURNFREE by default, those may change the power
> requirements.
>
> --K
>    

I see your points but it just finished burning about 6 more very full 
DVDs with not one single error.  They burned with no prompts other than 
the usual things it does to confirm what I am doing, such as overwriting 
a DVD with data on it.   Since it was failing basically every time 
before and has not failed since downgrading cdrtools, it appears not to 
be hardware but a software issue.  I guess I could install the newer 
version of cdrtools and see if it fails again.  If it does, then it is 
software.  If not, then I'm not sure what to think really.  Well, I 
think I will switch back to this version of cdrtools since it works.  ;-)

Since I deleted the old backups, I would have to create a new set tho. I 
remove them as I burn them since it sort of fills that partition up 
pretty quick.  I tend to forget to delete them if I don't do it at the 
time.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Marc Joliet]

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Am Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:06:46 -0500
schrieb Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>:

> Dale wrote:
[...] 
> I hope the DVD guru saw this and the error just in case he sees what 
> needs fixing.  Maybe he is on vacation or something.  :-)

Heh, I was wondering where Jörg Schilling (I guess that's who you mean) is,
too :-) . Usually he reacts to these threads at the speed of light. A CD/DVD
burning thread without Mr. Schilling is like an X/HAL thread without you ;-) .

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

Marc Joliet wrote:
> Am Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:06:46 -0500
> schrieb Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>:
>
>    
>> Dale wrote:
>>      
> [...]
>    
>> I hope the DVD guru saw this and the error just in case he sees what
>> needs fixing.  Maybe he is on vacation or something.  :-)
>>      
> Heh, I was wondering where Jörg Schilling (I guess that's who you mean) is,
> too :-) . Usually he reacts to these threads at the speed of light. A CD/DVD
> burning thread without Mr. Schilling is like an X/HAL thread without you ;-) .
>
>    

I guess he is on vacation.  I do hope he will see the thread tho.  I 
think he is the one doing the coding and if it is software, he not only 
needs to see it but he can also fix whatever it is that is wrong as 
well.  The version I was using that failed was in unstable.  If it is 
software, he may want to keep it unstable as well.

I don't always get involved in a hal thread.  It does seem that people 
always bring it up tho.  lol

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

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On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:46:47 -0500, Dale wrote:

> I don't always get involved in a hal thread.

And bears don't always shit in the woods...

;-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Joerg Schilling]

Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> mkisofs
>
> -----------------------
>
> 2097493
>
> /usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot add inode hints with -no-cache-inodes.

I strongly recommend not to use the option -no-cache-inodes.
This option causes mkisofs not to check for hard links. As a rersult,
the filesystem is bigger than needed and may not fit on the medium.


> I also tried to burn this with tkdvd but it failed too.  I don't think 
> the media is bad.  It doesn't appear to be k3b since the other program 
> fails too.  I also updated to the latest testing but no difference that 
> I can see.  It does sometimes burn and sometimes if I try again it will 
> burn but it's not getting any better.

Your mail does not seem to include any hint for a failure. What exact problem 
do you have?

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Joerg Schilling]

Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> > growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=/path/to/file.iso
> >
> > At least you'll have a better idea where the problem lies.
> >
> >    
>
> Could I just get rid of one of the programs or are they all part of the 
> same package?  I suspect a mismatch of package versions which is why I 
> went unstable with k3b and cdrtools.

First, in the original mail I could not see any indication for a problem.

Second, k3b did only use mkisofs from cdrtools but not cdrecord to write to the 
medium.

In order to be able to discuss a problem, it needs to be described.

So where is the problem? 

Is the filesystem structure of the result wrong? In this case it may be a k3b 
or a user fault.

Is the resulting media not written to or not readable? In this case, we would 
need to get an error message related to writing to the media....


Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Joerg Schilling]

Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> Used versions
> -----------------------
> cdrecord: 2.1.1a77
>
> cdrecord
> -----------------------
> scsidev: '/dev/hdd'
> devname: '/dev/hdd'
> scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
> Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported.
> Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27
> SCSI buffer size: 64512
> /usr/bin/cdrecord: Warning: Cannot read drive buffer.
> /usr/bin/cdrecord: Warning: The DMA speed test has been skipped.
> Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 2.01.01a77 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 
> 1995-2010 JÃ?rg Schilling
> TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
> Using libscg version 'schily-0.9'.
> Driveropts: 'burnfree'
> atapi: 1
> Device type    : Removable CD-ROM
> Version        : 0
> Response Format: 2
> Capabilities   :
> Vendor_info    : 'Optiarc '
> Identifikation : 'DVD RW AD-7200A '
> Revision       : '1.05'
> Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW/DVD-RAM.
> Current: DVD+RW
> Profile: DVD+R/DL
> Profile: DVD+R
> Profile: DVD+RW (current)
> Profile: DVD-R/DL layer jump recording
> Profile: DVD-R/DL sequential recording
> Profile: DVD-RW sequential recording
> Profile: DVD-RW restricted overwrite
> Profile: DVD-RAM
> Profile: DVD-R sequential recording
> Profile: DVD-ROM
> Profile: CD-RW
> Profile: CD-R
> Profile: CD-ROM
> Profile: Removable Disk
> Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-3 DVD+RW driver (mmc_dvdplusrw).
> Driver flags   : NO-CD DVD MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
> Supported modes: PACKET SAO LAYER_JUMP
> Drive buf size : 1245184 = 1216 KB
> FIFO size      : 4194304 = 4096 KB
> Track 01: data  2591 MB
> Total size:     2591 MB = 1326592 sectors
> Current Secsize: 2048
> Trying to clear drive status.
> Blocks total: 2295104 Blocks current: 2295104 Blocks remaining: 968512
> Reducing transfer size from 64512 to 32768 bytes.
> Starting to write CD/DVD/BD at speed 4 in real SAO mode for single session.
> Last chance to quit, starting real write in 3 seconds.
>     2 seconds.
>     1 seconds.
>     0 seconds. Operation starts.
> Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready.
> Starting new track at sector: 0
> Track 02:    0 of 2591 MB written.
> /usr/bin/cdrecord: Success. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error
> CDB:  2A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 00
> status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
> Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 73 03 00 00
> Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0
> Sense Code: 0x73 Qual 0x03 (power calibration area error) Fru 0x0
> Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)
> resid: 32768
> cmd finished after 17.339s timeout 200s
> /usr/bin/cdrecord: A write error occured.
> /usr/bin/cdrecord: Please properly read the error message above.
> write track data: error after 0 bytes
> Writing  time:   22.358s
> Average write speed  87.7x.
> Fixating...
> Fixating time:    0.003s
> /usr/bin/cdrecord: fifo had 128 puts and 1 gets.
> /usr/bin/cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was 
> 100%.
> BURN-Free was not used.

Now we have an error message but there is no information on the media.

Please run "cdrecord -atip" with the failing medium.

DVD+RW is a medium with well known deficits in drive media compatibility and 
there is also low quality media.

As nothing has been written, your problem youd be a result of a drive media 
compatibility problem. This may be a result from writing the media with a 
different drive before. You may try to call "cdrecord -v -force -format" in 
order to reformat the medium before writing to it.

Note that the mein difference between DVD- (the standard) and DVD+ 
(a Philips/Sony vendor specific system) is that the DVD Forum frequently runs
round robin tests for drive media compatibility. The tests are run in a way that
every media is written with every writer and read with every reader.


Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Joerg Schilling]

Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is hopefully the last update.  I have now burned several DVDs, 
> including the ones that failed earlier, with no errors at all.  I guess 
> the newer version of cdrtools has some issues which may be why it is not 
> in stable yet.  ;-)

There are no known issues with cdrtools and in special as we are very close to 
the next major release (3.0-final) problems have been handles vera carefully 
during the past time.

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Joerg Schilling]

Mike Edenfield <kutulu@kutulu.org> wrote:

> On 3/30/2010 1:00 PM, Dale wrote:
>
> > status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
> > Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 73 03 00 00
> > Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0
> > Sense Code: 0x73 Qual 0x03 (power calibration area error) Fru 0x0
> > Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)
>
> This part is claiming that your burner was unable to figure out what the
> correct power level is for writing to the media.  This is entirely
> controlled in hardware, so there is no legitimate reason why your
> version of cdrecord should have any effect. It is almost always caused by:
>
> * Bad media
> * Bad hardware
> * Insufficient power supply

With DVD+RW, there is another possible problem: The media was written by 
another drive before that results in a medium state incompatible with the 
current drive. This is not uncommon with a company-only "standard" like DVD+.

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Joerg Schilling]

Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> I see your points but it just finished burning about 6 more very full 
> DVDs with not one single error.  They burned with no prompts other than 
> the usual things it does to confirm what I am doing, such as overwriting 
> a DVD with data on it.   Since it was failing basically every time 
> before and has not failed since downgrading cdrtools, it appears not to 
> be hardware but a software issue.  I guess I could install the newer 

There is definitely no software issue with cdrecord.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>    
>> Used versions
>> -----------------------
>> cdrecord: 2.1.1a77
>>
>> cdrecord
>> -----------------------
>> scsidev: '/dev/hdd'
>> devname: '/dev/hdd'
>> scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
>> Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported.
>> Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27
>> SCSI buffer size: 64512
>> /usr/bin/cdrecord: Warning: Cannot read drive buffer.
>> /usr/bin/cdrecord: Warning: The DMA speed test has been skipped.
>> Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 2.01.01a77 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C)
>> 1995-2010 JÃ?rg Schilling
>> TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
>> Using libscg version 'schily-0.9'.
>> Driveropts: 'burnfree'
>> atapi: 1
>> Device type    : Removable CD-ROM
>> Version        : 0
>> Response Format: 2
>> Capabilities   :
>> Vendor_info    : 'Optiarc '
>> Identifikation : 'DVD RW AD-7200A '
>> Revision       : '1.05'
>> Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW/DVD-RAM.
>> Current: DVD+RW
>> Profile: DVD+R/DL
>> Profile: DVD+R
>> Profile: DVD+RW (current)
>> Profile: DVD-R/DL layer jump recording
>> Profile: DVD-R/DL sequential recording
>> Profile: DVD-RW sequential recording
>> Profile: DVD-RW restricted overwrite
>> Profile: DVD-RAM
>> Profile: DVD-R sequential recording
>> Profile: DVD-ROM
>> Profile: CD-RW
>> Profile: CD-R
>> Profile: CD-ROM
>> Profile: Removable Disk
>> Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-3 DVD+RW driver (mmc_dvdplusrw).
>> Driver flags   : NO-CD DVD MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
>> Supported modes: PACKET SAO LAYER_JUMP
>> Drive buf size : 1245184 = 1216 KB
>> FIFO size      : 4194304 = 4096 KB
>> Track 01: data  2591 MB
>> Total size:     2591 MB = 1326592 sectors
>> Current Secsize: 2048
>> Trying to clear drive status.
>> Blocks total: 2295104 Blocks current: 2295104 Blocks remaining: 968512
>> Reducing transfer size from 64512 to 32768 bytes.
>> Starting to write CD/DVD/BD at speed 4 in real SAO mode for single session.
>> Last chance to quit, starting real write in 3 seconds.
>>      2 seconds.
>>      1 seconds.
>>      0 seconds. Operation starts.
>> Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready.
>> Starting new track at sector: 0
>> Track 02:    0 of 2591 MB written.
>> /usr/bin/cdrecord: Success. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error
>> CDB:  2A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 00
>> status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
>> Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 73 03 00 00
>> Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0
>> Sense Code: 0x73 Qual 0x03 (power calibration area error) Fru 0x0
>> Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)
>> resid: 32768
>> cmd finished after 17.339s timeout 200s
>> /usr/bin/cdrecord: A write error occured.
>> /usr/bin/cdrecord: Please properly read the error message above.
>> write track data: error after 0 bytes
>> Writing  time:   22.358s
>> Average write speed  87.7x.
>> Fixating...
>> Fixating time:    0.003s
>> /usr/bin/cdrecord: fifo had 128 puts and 1 gets.
>> /usr/bin/cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was
>> 100%.
>> BURN-Free was not used.
>>      
> Now we have an error message but there is no information on the media.
>
> Please run "cdrecord -atip" with the failing medium.
>
> DVD+RW is a medium with well known deficits in drive media compatibility and
> there is also low quality media.
>
> As nothing has been written, your problem youd be a result of a drive media
> compatibility problem. This may be a result from writing the media with a
> different drive before. You may try to call "cdrecord -v -force -format" in
> order to reformat the medium before writing to it.
>
> Note that the mein difference between DVD- (the standard) and DVD+
> (a Philips/Sony vendor specific system) is that the DVD Forum frequently runs
> round robin tests for drive media compatibility. The tests are run in a way that
> every media is written with every writer and read with every reader.
>
>
> Jörg
>
>    

After downgrading to a stable cdrtools, I don't have any failing media.  
I have been using the same drive and media for quite a while tho.  I 
think I had the drive for a year or so and the media for about the same 
time.  I re-use the media since it is RW.  Actually, I bought the media 
when I bought the drive.  I got them from newegg of course.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>    
>> I see your points but it just finished burning about 6 more very full
>> DVDs with not one single error.  They burned with no prompts other than
>> the usual things it does to confirm what I am doing, such as overwriting
>> a DVD with data on it.   Since it was failing basically every time
>> before and has not failed since downgrading cdrtools, it appears not to
>> be hardware but a software issue.  I guess I could install the newer
>>      
> There is definitely no software issue with cdrecord.
>
> Jörg
>
>    

Then this is sort of funny.  The only thing I changed was to downgrade 
cdrtools and then it worked fine.  Same DVD media, same drive, same 
files being burned and it worked fine with the older version of 
cdrtools.  So it appears to be something software or some different 
setting somewhere.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Joerg Schilling]

Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> After downgrading to a stable cdrtools, I don't have any failing media.  
> I have been using the same drive and media for quite a while tho.  I 

There is a difference between "after" downgrading and _from_ downgrading.
It you really mean _after_ downgrading, there is no way to help you as you are 
just describing a dirt effect.

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Joerg Schilling]

Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> OK.  I thought I would try some different versions of software and see 
> what happens.  With the info Neil provided about what does what, I 
> thought I would try a different version of cdrtools.  I went to a older 
> version and it worked fine on the first try with my backup file.  It is 
> as I type burning the second DVD with no errors yet.  I'm using 
> cdrtools-2.01.01_alpha57-r1 at the moment.  Maybe this will work.

As mentioned before, if it works for you _after_ this change, you did not prove 
anything. In special you did not prove that the change is a result _from_ 
changing releases.

There are many changes in cdrtools since January 2009, but there was no change 
that could affect your problem.

Your media was either accepted after several tries by the drive for unknown 
reasons and is now usable in general again or you are observing a problem 
caused by "hald". Note that hald does not care about the CD/DVD/BD Writing 
process and interrupts it. This is why hald may cause any strange result.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>    
>> OK.  I thought I would try some different versions of software and see
>> what happens.  With the info Neil provided about what does what, I
>> thought I would try a different version of cdrtools.  I went to a older
>> version and it worked fine on the first try with my backup file.  It is
>> as I type burning the second DVD with no errors yet.  I'm using
>> cdrtools-2.01.01_alpha57-r1 at the moment.  Maybe this will work.
>>      
> As mentioned before, if it works for you _after_ this change, you did not prove
> anything. In special you did not prove that the change is a result _from_
> changing releases.
>
> There are many changes in cdrtools since January 2009, but there was no change
> that could affect your problem.
>
> Your media was either accepted after several tries by the drive for unknown
> reasons and is now usable in general again or you are observing a problem
> caused by "hald". Note that hald does not care about the CD/DVD/BD Writing
> process and interrupts it. This is why hald may cause any strange result.
>
>
> Jörg
>
>    

All I know is that I downgraded cdrtools and it worked.  I didn't even 
eject the media.  Since it works now , I don't guess there is any way to 
test it.  Next time I do a backup, I'll upgrade and see if it fails.  If 
it does, maybe then we can figure it out.  I'll go back to my current 
version and see if it works then.  May be a bit before I do backups 
again tho.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 17:02:20 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:

> Your media was either accepted after several tries by the drive for
> unknown reasons and is now usable in general again or you are observing
> a problem caused by "hald".

OMG Jörg! Do you have any idea what you've done?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Paul Hartman]

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Joerg Schilling
<Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> wrote:
> Your media was either accepted after several tries by the drive for unknown
> reasons and is now usable in general again or you are observing a problem
> caused by "hald". Note that hald does not care about the CD/DVD/BD Writing
> process and interrupts it. This is why hald may cause any strange result.

Would a HAL preprobe FDI like this prevent it from interfering with burning?

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<deviceinfo version="0.2">
  <device>
    <match key="storage.drive_type" string="cdrom">
      <merge key="info.ignore" type="bool">true</merge>
    </match>
  </device>
</deviceinfo>

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Joerg Schilling]

Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 17:02:20 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
>
> > Your media was either accepted after several tries by the drive for
> > unknown reasons and is now usable in general again or you are observing
> > a problem caused by "hald".
>
> OMG Jörg! Do you have any idea what you've done?

Not really, did I say Jehova?

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Neil Bothwick<neil@digimed.co.uk>  wrote:
>
>    
>> On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 17:02:20 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> Your media was either accepted after several tries by the drive for
>>> unknown reasons and is now usable in general again or you are observing
>>> a problem caused by "hald".
>>>        
>> OMG Jörg! Do you have any idea what you've done?
>>      
> Not really, did I say Jehova?
>
> Jörg
>
>    

He was talking about you mentioning hal.  I think hal is running on this 
thing but just not for xorg.  It seems to work fine everywhere except 
xorg.  Then again, when I put a CD/DVD in, it doesn't mount it 
automatically anymore.  I think that is a KDE4 thing.  I may not have 
turned something on.  I just haven't looked into it yet.

I'm going to try to make some new backups tonight and burn them.  I'll 
post the errors if any.  I'll burn with the old cdrtools and the one 
that gave me trouble.  We'll see if you can figure it out then.  I did 
what I did because I thought you were on vacation or something.  I knew 
for sure you would jump in with both feet on this error when you saw 
it.  You're the DVD guru.  LOL

Will post what happens if I can stay awake long enough.  -_o

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 16:12:30 -0500, Dale wrote:

> Then again, when I put a CD/DVD in, it doesn't mount it 
> automatically anymore.  I think that is a KDE4 thing.  I may not have 
> turned something on.  I just haven't looked into it yet.

That's a settings thing, turned off by default

System Settings > Advanced > Removable Devices


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 16:12:30 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>    
>> Then again, when I put a CD/DVD in, it doesn't mount it
>> automatically anymore.  I think that is a KDE4 thing.  I may not have
>> turned something on.  I just haven't looked into it yet.
>>      
> That's a settings thing, turned off by default
>
> System Settings>  Advanced>  Removable Devices
>
>    

It is mounting it now.  I can see it when I type in mount.  I figured it 
was turned off somewhere.  Now to get me a little icon on the desktop so 
I can open it.  lol

I removed KDE3 last night.  I'm sort of getting used to KDE4 now.  Just 
a few little quirks here and there.

I fell asleep last night so I will try the backup thing as soon as I can.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Mike Edenfield]

On 4/1/2010 4:38 PM, Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Joerg Schilling
> <Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> wrote:
>> Your media was either accepted after several tries by the drive for unknown
>> reasons and is now usable in general again or you are observing a problem
>> caused by "hald". Note that hald does not care about the CD/DVD/BD Writing
>> process and interrupts it. This is why hald may cause any strange result.
> 
> Would a HAL preprobe FDI like this prevent it from interfering with burning?
> 
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
> <deviceinfo version="0.2">
>   <device>
>     <match key="storage.drive_type" string="cdrom">
>       <merge key="info.ignore" type="bool">true</merge>
>     </match>
>   </device>
> </deviceinfo>
> 

Bad enough you mentioned HAL in a conversation with Dale.  Now there's
XML involved.  This thread is officially never going to end.

--Mike

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 16:12:30 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>    
>> Then again, when I put a CD/DVD in, it doesn't mount it
>> automatically anymore.  I think that is a KDE4 thing.  I may not have
>> turned something on.  I just haven't looked into it yet.
>>      
> That's a settings thing, turned off by default
>
> System Settings>  Advanced>  Removable Devices
>
>
>    
I spoke to soon.  It worked once tho.  I can mount it manually tho.  
Maybe I already mounted it manually and forgot?  I already had a DVD in 
there.  I'm getting to old.  lol

Am I supposed to have anything in fstab for KDE4 and the DVD?  I don't 
have currently and didn't for KDE3 either.  I read somewhere that KDE4 
did this differently tho.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[stosss]

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 16:12:30 -0500, Dale wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Then again, when I put a CD/DVD in, it doesn't mount it
>>> automatically anymore.  I think that is a KDE4 thing.  I may not have
>>> turned something on.  I just haven't looked into it yet.
>>>
>>
>> That's a settings thing, turned off by default
>>
>> System Settings>  Advanced>  Removable Devices
>>
>>
>>
>
> I spoke to soon.  It worked once tho.  I can mount it manually tho.  Maybe I
> already mounted it manually and forgot?  I already had a DVD in there.  I'm
> getting to old.  lol
>
> Am I supposed to have anything in fstab for KDE4 and the DVD?  I don't have
> currently and didn't for KDE3 either.  I read somewhere that KDE4 did this
> differently tho.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>
>

Something like this will allow a non-admin user to mount the CD/DVD

/dev/cdrom    /mnt/cdrom   auto   noauto,user        0  0
                                                             ^^^^^^^^


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[stosss]

> Bad enough you mentioned HAL in a conversation with Dale.  Now there's
> XML involved.  This thread is officially never going to end.

This list really lightens up a day. LOL

-- 
If we can but prevent the government from wasting the labours of the
people, under the pretence of taking care of them, they must become
happy. - Thomas Jefferson

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:20:24 -0500, Dale wrote:

> It is mounting it now.  I can see it when I type in mount.  I figured
> it was turned off somewhere.  Now to get me a little icon on the
> desktop so I can open it.  lol

Try adding the Device Notifier plasmoid to the task bar, I ind that much
more convenient than desktop icons.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

I have seen things you lusers would not believe.
I've seen Sun monitors on fire off the side of the multimedia lab.
I've seen NTU lights glitter in the dark near the Mail Gate.
All these things will be lost in time, like the root partition last week.
Time to die.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 02 Apr 2010 11:21:04 -0500, Dale wrote:

> Am I supposed to have anything in fstab for KDE4 and the DVD?  I don't 
> have currently and didn't for KDE3 either.  I read somewhere that KDE4 
> did this differently tho.

No, KDE determines the mount point from the volume name.


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distorts data sent to it, sometimes returning more data and sometimes
merely over-heating.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:20:24 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>    
>> It is mounting it now.  I can see it when I type in mount.  I figured
>> it was turned off somewhere.  Now to get me a little icon on the
>> desktop so I can open it.  lol
>>      
> Try adding the Device Notifier plasmoid to the task bar, I ind that much
> more convenient than desktop icons.
>
>    

Oh heck yea.  That is some cool stuff.  I still like a icon but this 
works good to.  I see if I can get used to this way.

Thanks Dude !!

Dale

:-D  :-D

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Apr 2010 11:21:04 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>    
>> Am I supposed to have anything in fstab for KDE4 and the DVD?  I don't
>> have currently and didn't for KDE3 either.  I read somewhere that KDE4
>> did this differently tho.
>>      
> No, KDE determines the mount point from the volume name.
>
>
>    

I knew that was the KDE3 way but I didn't know what all had changed in 
KDE4.  I actually like it that way because I usually name my DVDs and 
such anyway.  I can usually tell from the name what is on there.

I did have it commented out tho.  This install is so old, I used to have 
to have it for it to mount.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Zeerak Mustafa Waseem]

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On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 03:27:39PM -0400, stosss wrote:
> > Bad enough you mentioned HAL in a conversation with Dale.  Now there's
> > XML involved.  This thread is officially never going to end.
> 
> This list really lightens up a day. LOL
> 
> -- 
> If we can but prevent the government from wasting the labours of the
> people, under the pretence of taking care of them, they must become
> happy. - Thomas Jefferson
> 

I must admit that it really is good at providing chuckles :-)

-- 
Zeerak Waseem

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Joerg Schilling]

Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> All I know is that I downgraded cdrtools and it worked.  I didn't even 
> eject the media.  Since it works now , I don't guess there is any way to 
> test it.  Next time I do a backup, I'll upgrade and see if it fails.  If 
> it does, maybe then we can figure it out.  I'll go back to my current 
> version and see if it works then.  May be a bit before I do backups 
> again tho.

Hi, is there any news on whether this was more than an "after I downgraded"?

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Joerg Schilling]

Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Joerg Schilling
> <Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> wrote:
> > Your media was either accepted after several tries by the drive for unknown
> > reasons and is now usable in general again or you are observing a problem
> > caused by "hald". Note that hald does not care about the CD/DVD/BD Writing
> > process and interrupts it. This is why hald may cause any strange result.
>
> Would a HAL preprobe FDI like this prevent it from interfering with burning?

Could you explain what this means?

As mentioned in my bug report at Novell, hald missinterprets supposed state 
transitions. 

Other problems on Linux are a result from the fact that there is more than one 
driver interface for a given writer. 

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Joerg Schilling]

Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> He was talking about you mentioning hal.  I think hal is running on this 
> thing but just not for xorg.  It seems to work fine everywhere except 
> xorg.  Then again, when I put a CD/DVD in, it doesn't mount it 
> automatically anymore.  I think that is a KDE4 thing.  I may not have 
> turned something on.  I just haven't looked into it yet.

The problem is of course also that some features will not work anymore when 
you diusable hald. The problem with hald is that it interfares programs like
cdrecord that exist much longer than hald and that it's creators did not yet 
start a discussion with me on how such a service could be implemented without 
affecting or harming cdrecord.


Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Paul Hartman]

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:24 AM, Joerg Schilling
<Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> wrote:
> Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Joerg Schilling
>> <Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> wrote:
>> > Your media was either accepted after several tries by the drive for unknown
>> > reasons and is now usable in general again or you are observing a problem
>> > caused by "hald". Note that hald does not care about the CD/DVD/BD Writing
>> > process and interrupts it. This is why hald may cause any strange result.
>>
>> Would a HAL preprobe FDI like this prevent it from interfering with burning?
>
> Could you explain what this means?

I was just thinking if HAL is instructed to ignore the device maybe it
won't bother it any more (if that's even the cause of Dale's problem).
Not a fix but a workaround. Maybe not even a workaround. :)

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Joerg Schilling]

Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> wrote:

> >> Would a HAL preprobe FDI like this prevent it from interfering with burning?
> >
> > Could you explain what this means?
>
> I was just thinking if HAL is instructed to ignore the device maybe it
> won't bother it any more (if that's even the cause of Dale's problem).
> Not a fix but a workaround. Maybe not even a workaround. :)

I have been told that this could work but I have no idea on how to do this.


Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Paul Hartman]

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Joerg Schilling
<Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> wrote:
> Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >> Would a HAL preprobe FDI like this prevent it from interfering with burning?
>> >
>> > Could you explain what this means?
>>
>> I was just thinking if HAL is instructed to ignore the device maybe it
>> won't bother it any more (if that's even the cause of Dale's problem).
>> Not a fix but a workaround. Maybe not even a workaround. :)
>
> I have been told that this could work but I have no idea on how to do this.

Create a file in /etc/hal/fdi/preprobe/ containing these contents:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<deviceinfo version="0.2">
 <device>
   <match key="storage.drive_type" string="cdrom">
     <merge key="info.ignore" type="bool">true</merge>
   </match>
 </device>
</deviceinfo>

Then reboot (or maybe restart HAL is enough). It should hopefully make
HAL completely ignore the cdrom device. (maybe edit to match your
specific device)

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>    
>> All I know is that I downgraded cdrtools and it worked.  I didn't even
>> eject the media.  Since it works now , I don't guess there is any way to
>> test it.  Next time I do a backup, I'll upgrade and see if it fails.  If
>> it does, maybe then we can figure it out.  I'll go back to my current
>> version and see if it works then.  May be a bit before I do backups
>> again tho.
>>      
> Hi, is there any news on whether this was more than an "after I downgraded"?
>
> Jörg
>
>    

Not quite yet.  I sort of got really busy.  Went on a egg hunt then had 
to go out of town for a whole day.  It was fun but this old dog is tired.

I'm hoping to test this soon tho.  I hadn't forgot.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>    
>> All I know is that I downgraded cdrtools and it worked.  I didn't even
>> eject the media.  Since it works now , I don't guess there is any way to
>> test it.  Next time I do a backup, I'll upgrade and see if it fails.  If
>> it does, maybe then we can figure it out.  I'll go back to my current
>> version and see if it works then.  May be a bit before I do backups
>> again tho.
>>      
> Hi, is there any news on whether this was more than an "after I downgraded"?
>
> Jörg
>
>    

I finally got a chance to work on this.  Since my last posting I have 
done a emerge -e world.  That was several days ago.  Anyway, this is 
what I get now:

Burned media

-----------------------

DVD+RW

Devices

-----------------------

Optiarc DVD RW AD-7200A 1.05 (/dev/hdd, CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, 
DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL) [DVD-ROM, DVD-R 
Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Jump, DVD-RAM, 
DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite, DVD-RW Sequential, DVD+RW, DVD+R, DVD+R 
Dual Layer, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, 
RAW/R16, RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R, Restricted Overwrite, Layer Jump] [%7]

K3b::IsoImager

-----------------------

mkisofs print size result: 2295193 (4700555264 bytes)

System

-----------------------

K3b Version: 1.91.0

KDE Version: 4.4.2 (KDE 4.4.2)

QT Version: 4.6.2

Kernel: 2.6.30-gentoo-r8

Used versions

-----------------------

mkisofs: 2.1.1a77

growisofs: 7.1

growisofs command:

-----------------------

/usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0 -use-the-force-luke=notray 
-use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=4gms 
-use-the-force-luke=tracksize:2295193 -speed=4 
-use-the-force-luke=bufsize:32m

mkisofs

-----------------------

2295193

/usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot add inode hints with -no-cache-inodes.

mkisofs calculate size command:

-----------------------

/usr/bin/mkisofs -gui -graft-points -print-size -quiet -volid 
Home_2010.04.10-12.06.22_1 -volset -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 
1998-2010 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND MICHAL MALEK -publisher -preparer -sysid 
LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-dale/k3bqR1146.tmp 
-rational-rock -hide-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bSy1146.tmp -joliet 
-joliet-long -hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bmz1146.tmp 
-no-cache-inodes -udf -full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 3 -path-list 
/tmp/kde-dale/k3bJN1146.tmp

mkisofs command:

-----------------------

/usr/bin/mkisofs -gui -graft-points -volid Home_2010.04.10-12.06.22_1 
-volset -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2010 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND 
MICHAL MALEK -publisher -preparer -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 
-volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-dale/k3bPu1146.tmp -rational-rock 
-hide-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bAH1146.tmp -joliet -joliet-long 
-hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bpJ1146.tmp -no-cache-inodes -udf 
-full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 3 -path-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bsR1146.tmp


On the screen that usually shows the progress, it says "Fatal error at 
startup: No space left on device."  The main screen where I select files 
shows there is space left.  It shows about 1Mb or so left.

I also have a much smaller slice for the backup.  When I burn it, it 
gives a error that mkisofs crashed.  Go figure.  I'm pretty sure I am 
using the version that failed before.

Let me know what you want me to try and what version you want to test.  
You are the DVD expert so may as well follow your lead on this one.  ;-)

Dale

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Paul Hartman]

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On the screen that usually shows the progress, it says "Fatal error at
> startup: No space left on device."  The main screen where I select files
> shows there is space left.  It shows about 1Mb or so left.

Do you have enough free space in /tmp to hold a DVD image?

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>  wrote:
>    
>> On the screen that usually shows the progress, it says "Fatal error at
>> startup: No space left on device."  The main screen where I select files
>> shows there is space left.  It shows about 1Mb or so left.
>>      
> Do you have enough free space in /tmp to hold a DVD image?
>
>
>    

I called myself checking that.  It should be on the / partition in this 
list.  First one.


root@smoker ~ # df
Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda6              9767184   1142532   8624652  12% /
udev                     10240       212     10028   3% /dev
/dev/hda1               186663     31501    145525  18% /boot
/dev/hda7              9767184   4802084   4965100  50% /home
/dev/hda9              7815308   5051768   2763540  65% /usr
/dev/hdb5             19228276   8270268   9981260  46% /usr/portage
/dev/hda10             3718856   1302052   2416804  36% /var
/dev/hdb1              9614116    183056   8942688   3% /var/tmp/portage
/dev/sda1            732549604 335730780 396818824  46% /data
none                   1037236         0   1037236   0% /dev/shm
root@smoker ~ #

It shows over 8Gb.  This was working the other day.  Heck, it either 
gives a no space error or just plain ole crashes now.

I also deleted the config files in .kde4 so that it would start out 
fresh just for giggles.  Same thing.

I dunno what the deal is.   lol

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Joerg Schilling]

Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On the screen that usually shows the progress, it says "Fatal error at 
> startup: No space left on device."  The main screen where I select files 
> shows there is space left.  It shows about 1Mb or so left.
>
> I also have a much smaller slice for the backup.  When I burn it, it 
> gives a error that mkisofs crashed.  Go figure.  I'm pretty sure I am 
> using the version that failed before.

Then it seems that you only have a k3b bug that 

1)	prevents k3b from knowing that you dpn't have enough space

2)	prevents k3b from correctly reporting the abort reason

did cou contact the k3b people?

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>    
>> On the screen that usually shows the progress, it says "Fatal error at
>> startup: No space left on device."  The main screen where I select files
>> shows there is space left.  It shows about 1Mb or so left.
>>
>> I also have a much smaller slice for the backup.  When I burn it, it
>> gives a error that mkisofs crashed.  Go figure.  I'm pretty sure I am
>> using the version that failed before.
>>      
> Then it seems that you only have a k3b bug that
>
> 1)	prevents k3b from knowing that you dpn't have enough space
>
> 2)	prevents k3b from correctly reporting the abort reason
>
> did cou contact the k3b people?
>
> Jörg
>
>    

It is a different prob;em than before.  First time I got this error.  
I'm going to install the version of cdrtools that was working and see if 
it works.  Will post the result later today.  I got to drive a tractor 
for a little while.

Also worth noting, tkdvd doesn't work either.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

Dale wrote:
> Joerg Schilling wrote:
>> Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> On the screen that usually shows the progress, it says "Fatal error at
>>> startup: No space left on device."  The main screen where I select 
>>> files
>>> shows there is space left.  It shows about 1Mb or so left.
>>>
>>> I also have a much smaller slice for the backup.  When I burn it, it
>>> gives a error that mkisofs crashed.  Go figure.  I'm pretty sure I am
>>> using the version that failed before.
>> Then it seems that you only have a k3b bug that
>>
>> 1)    prevents k3b from knowing that you dpn't have enough space
>>
>> 2)    prevents k3b from correctly reporting the abort reason
>>
>> did cou contact the k3b people?
>>
>> Jörg
>>
>
> It is a different prob;em than before.  First time I got this error.  
> I'm going to install the version of cdrtools that was working and see 
> if it works.  Will post the result later today.  I got to drive a 
> tractor for a little while.
>
> Also worth noting, tkdvd doesn't work either.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)

I tried a older version of k3b and different versions of cdrtools with 
no change.  Also tkdvd doesn't work either. Slightly different error but 
still doesn't burn.

Posted on kde mailing list to see if this is some known issues with 
k3b.  Maybe hardware?  Maybe I am not holding my mouth right when I 
click burn?

Dale

:-)  :-)

P. S.  Also headed to newegg to see what a new burner costs.  Jörg, do 
you have any recommendations on a really good burner that has few issues 
with software?  I hear that some have software issues and figure I may 
as well avoid that if I need a new one.

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Joerg Schilling]

Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> It is a different prob;em than before.  First time I got this error.  
> I'm going to install the version of cdrtools that was working and see if 
> it works.  Will post the result later today.  I got to drive a tractor 
> for a little while.

If I did understand you correctly, you now have a problem caused by a 
filesystem capacity overflow.

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Joerg Schilling]

Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:


> I tried a older version of k3b and different versions of cdrtools with 
> no change.  Also tkdvd doesn't work either. Slightly different error but 
> still doesn't burn.
>
> Posted on kde mailing list to see if this is some known issues with 
> k3b.  Maybe hardware?  Maybe I am not holding my mouth right when I 
> click burn?

From one of your former posts, it seems that you have problems with the free 
space on your disk and the fact that k3b doesn't realise that there is not 
enough free space.

> P. S.  Also headed to newegg to see what a new burner costs.  Jörg, do 
> you have any recommendations on a really good burner that has few issues 
> with software?  I hear that some have software issues and figure I may 
> as well avoid that if I need a new one.

Since NEC/Sony -> Optiarc is fully owned by Sony conce more than a year and
since Sony fired people because made wrong assumptions on their market share, 
I hae no longer any contact to the manufacturing industry.

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>
>    
>> I tried a older version of k3b and different versions of cdrtools with
>> no change.  Also tkdvd doesn't work either. Slightly different error but
>> still doesn't burn.
>>
>> Posted on kde mailing list to see if this is some known issues with
>> k3b.  Maybe hardware?  Maybe I am not holding my mouth right when I
>> click burn?
>>      
> > From one of your former posts, it seems that you have problems with the free
> space on your disk and the fact that k3b doesn't realise that there is not
> enough free space.
>    

Well whether k3b knows it or not, there is 320Gbs of space left.  I did 
some more testing and the drive really doesn't do anything now.  Even 
hdparm can't read all the info so I ordered a drive about 12 hours ago.  
I have had this brand before so maybe it will be OK.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136144

I should have it in a couple days.  I only live about a 3 hour drive 
from the newegg warehouse.   ;-)

>    
>> P. S.  Also headed to newegg to see what a new burner costs.  Jörg, do
>> you have any recommendations on a really good burner that has few issues
>> with software?  I hear that some have software issues and figure I may
>> as well avoid that if I need a new one.
>>      
> Since NEC/Sony ->  Optiarc is fully owned by Sony conce more than a year and
> since Sony fired people because made wrong assumptions on their market share,
> I hae no longer any contact to the manufacturing industry.
>
> Jörg
>
>    

I thought it worth asking at least.  Maybe the one I got will work.  I 
got to check and see if my old one is under warranty too.  I haven't had 
it that long I don't think.

Thanks much.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Joerg Schilling]

Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well whether k3b knows it or not, there is 320Gbs of space left.  I did 
> some more testing and the drive really doesn't do anything now.  Even 
> hdparm can't read all the info so I ordered a drive about 12 hours ago.  
> I have had this brand before so maybe it will be OK.

Well, since a while, Linux did follow Solaris and offers tmpfs on /tmp.
tmpfs usually has the size of the RAM + sizeof Swap - something.

Many programs still don't know about this limitation and try to put 
temporary files of any size into /tmp. Try to reconfigure k3b....

Jörg

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[gentoo-user] Bug

[dan blum]

I run KDE on my system and my clock is wrong. I corrected several times from KDE, which sets the time to next boot, when it reverts to the old setting. This looks like slight bug. 

--- On Wed, 4/14/10, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 8:40 AM
> Joerg Schilling wrote:
> > Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >    
> >> I tried a older version of k3b and different
> versions of cdrtools with
> >> no change.  Also tkdvd doesn't work either.
> Slightly different error but
> >> still doesn't burn.
> >> 
> >> Posted on kde mailing list to see if this is some
> known issues with
> >> k3b.  Maybe hardware?  Maybe I am not
> holding my mouth right when I
> >> click burn?
> >>      
> > > From one of your former posts, it seems that you
> have problems with the free
> > space on your disk and the fact that k3b doesn't
> realise that there is not
> > enough free space.
> >    
> 
> Well whether k3b knows it or not, there is 320Gbs of space
> left.  I did some more testing and the drive really
> doesn't do anything now.  Even hdparm can't read all
> the info so I ordered a drive about 12 hours ago.  I
> have had this brand before so maybe it will be OK.
> 
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136144
> 
> I should have it in a couple days.  I only live about
> a 3 hour drive from the newegg
> warehouse.   ;-)
> 
> >    
> >> P. S.  Also headed to newegg to see what a
> new burner costs.  Jörg, do
> >> you have any recommendations on a really good
> burner that has few issues
> >> with software?  I hear that some have
> software issues and figure I may
> >> as well avoid that if I need a new one.
> >>      
> > Since NEC/Sony ->  Optiarc is fully owned by
> Sony conce more than a year and
> > since Sony fired people because made wrong assumptions
> on their market share,
> > I hae no longer any contact to the manufacturing
> industry.
> > 
> > Jörg
> > 
> >    
> 
> I thought it worth asking at least.  Maybe the one I
> got will work.  I got to check and see if my old one is
> under warranty too.  I haven't had it that long I don't
> think.
> 
> Thanks much.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)
> 
> 

Re: [gentoo-user] Bug

[Paul Hartman]

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:46 AM, dan blum <dan_blm@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I run KDE on my system and my clock is wrong. I corrected several times from KDE, which sets the time to next boot, when it reverts to the old setting. This looks like slight bug.

Check this option in your file /etc/conf.d/hwclock

# If you want to set the Hardware Clock to the current System Time
# (software clock) during shutdown, then say "YES" here.
# You normally don't need to do this if you run a ntp daemon.
clock_systohc="YES"

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>    
>> Well whether k3b knows it or not, there is 320Gbs of space left.  I did
>> some more testing and the drive really doesn't do anything now.  Even
>> hdparm can't read all the info so I ordered a drive about 12 hours ago.
>> I have had this brand before so maybe it will be OK.
>>      
> Well, since a while, Linux did follow Solaris and offers tmpfs on /tmp.
> tmpfs usually has the size of the RAM + sizeof Swap - something.
>
> Many programs still don't know about this limitation and try to put
> temporary files of any size into /tmp. Try to reconfigure k3b....
>
> Jörg
>
>    

That what I did.  I have /tmp on the root partition which has over 8Gbs 
free space but just in case I set k3b to use one of my really large data 
drives which has over 300Gbs of free space.  I figure if 300Gbs of free 
space is not enough to burn a 4Gb file, well, there is not much need to 
back anything up anyway.  ;-)

This drive is no longer reading a drive either so I think the drive has 
blown a fuse so to speak.  While it was working, then stopped working, 
then started working again and has pretty much stopped working now, I 
think the new drive is a good idea.  If the new drive doesn't work, I'm 
at a loss on what to think.  Maybe there is a issue with the controller 
which means a new mobo.  I really don't want to go there right now.

Crosses fingers that the new drive will work.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Bug

[Dale]

dan blum wrote:
> I run KDE on my system and my clock is wrong. I corrected several times from KDE, which sets the time to next boot, when it reverts to the old setting. This looks like slight bug.
>    

Since mailing list users generally use threaded messages, please start a 
new message instead of replying to a old one.

This may not be a bug.  It depends on how you set your clock.  You need 
to check the settings in /etc/conf.d/clock and make sure you have it set 
up correctly.  Also, if you are dual booting with windoze, that makes 
you have to have additional settings from what I have read in the past.  
Windoze sets the BIOS clock differently than Linux.  I don't have 
windoze so someone else will have to help with that.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Bug

[dan blum]

Dale,

Thanks for following up. HOw do you start a new thread? 

It is slightly annoying when you change a setting and reverts back to the original; the whole (computer) system should be more user friendly. Either way, it is good that there is an "easy" fix, which I will do.

I will have much more complex issues to discuss shortly.

Thanks.

--- On Wed, 4/14/10, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Bug
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 12:12 PM
> dan blum wrote:
> > I run KDE on my system and my clock is wrong. I
> corrected several times from KDE, which sets the time to
> next boot, when it reverts to the old setting. This looks
> like slight bug.
> >    
> 
> Since mailing list users generally use threaded messages,
> please start a new message instead of replying to a old
> one.
> 
> This may not be a bug.  It depends on how you set your
> clock.  You need to check the settings in
> /etc/conf.d/clock and make sure you have it set up
> correctly.  Also, if you are dual booting with windoze,
> that makes you have to have additional settings from what I
> have read in the past.  Windoze sets the BIOS clock
> differently than Linux.  I don't have windoze so
> someone else will have to help with that.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)
> 
> 

Re: [gentoo-user] Bug

[Dale]

dan blum wrote:
> Dale,
>
> Thanks for following up. HOw do you start a new thread?
>
> It is slightly annoying when you change a setting and reverts back to the original; the whole (computer) system should be more user friendly. Either way, it is good that there is an "easy" fix, which I will do.
>
> I will have much more complex issues to discuss shortly.
>
> Thanks.
>    

You started a new thread with this one.  ;-)  It really depends on your 
email program.  Mine, I can just chose to compose a new message and type 
in the email address.  I can also right click on the email address, 
usually from another message, and then select 'Compose New Mail' to and 
it starts a shiney new thread.  Tell us what you are using and I'm sure 
someone here uses it and can tell you more specifics on how to start a 
new thread.

Questions about your setup.  Do you dual boot windows?   Do you dual 
boot another OS, even Linux?  Is Linux the only OS you have installed?  
I only have one OS that I boot here so my settings will be different 
from yours if you dual boot something else.  We need more info first 
tho.  Also, can you give a little info about how the clock is set in 
your BIOS?  This is really needed if you are dual booting.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Bug

[KH]

Am 19.04.2010 00:41, schrieb dan blum:
> Dale,
>
> Thanks for following up. HOw do you start a new thread?
>
> It is slightly annoying when you change a setting and reverts back to the original; the whole (computer) system should be more user friendly. Either way, it is good that there is an "easy" fix, which I will do.
>
> I will have much more complex issues to discuss shortly.
>
> Thanks.
>
[...]

Hi,

well there might be more than one way but usually I move my mouse to the 
"new email" option in thunderbird. Then I write 
gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org in the field "to". So I am set.
The difference is: when you use answer and just change the subject 
field, it still is shown as answer to the other email. If you ever tried 
to find something with google from a mailing list you pretty fast start 
to hat those guys.

Also keep in mind, that the subject field should be a little more 
catchy. Things like "help", "bug", "to all veterans" ... will likely 
lead to very few readers.

Also most people on this list (I hope this won't start a discussion 
again) don't like top posting.

Regards

kh

Re: [gentoo-user] Bug

[dan blum]

Dale,

Your fix worked, so far so good. Previously, I tried setting the time from KDE and using the date function and both were overridden on re-boot. One would think that either one of these functions would override the factory presets. 

I see 'date' is a binary file. Does kde also use this function to change its time and date? Where would one find the source package for 'date'?

Dan 

--- On Wed, 4/14/10, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Bug
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 12:12 PM
> dan blum wrote:
> > I run KDE on my system and my clock is wrong. I
> corrected several times from KDE, which sets the time to
> next boot, when it reverts to the old setting. This looks
> like slight bug.
> >    
> 
> Since mailing list users generally use threaded messages,
> please start a new message instead of replying to a old
> one.
> 
> This may not be a bug.  It depends on how you set your
> clock.  You need to check the settings in
> /etc/conf.d/clock and make sure you have it set up
> correctly.  Also, if you are dual booting with windoze,
> that makes you have to have additional settings from what I
> have read in the past.  Windoze sets the BIOS clock
> differently than Linux.  I don't have windoze so
> someone else will have to help with that.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)
> 
> 


    

Re: [gentoo-user] Bug

[Paul Hartman]

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 12:14 PM, dan blum <dan_blm@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I see 'date' is a binary file. Does kde also use this function to change its time and date? Where would one find the source package for 'date'?

$ equery b `which date`
 * Searching for /usr/bin/date ...
sys-apps/coreutils-8.4 (/bin/date)

(if you don't have equery, it is in gentoolkit)

Re: [gentoo-user] Bug

[Dale]

dan blum wrote:
> Dale,
>
> Your fix worked, so far so good. Previously, I tried setting the time from KDE and using the date function and both were overridden on re-boot. One would think that either one of these functions would override the factory presets.
>
> I see 'date' is a binary file. Does kde also use this function to change its time and date? Where would one find the source package for 'date'?
>
> Dan
>
> --- On Wed, 4/14/10, Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>    
>> From: Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Bug
>> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
>> Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 12:12 PM
>> dan blum wrote:
>>      
>>> I run KDE on my system and my clock is wrong. I
>>>        
>> corrected several times from KDE, which sets the time to
>> next boot, when it reverts to the old setting. This looks
>> like slight bug.
>>      
>>>
>>>        
>> Since mailing list users generally use threaded messages,
>> please start a new message instead of replying to a old
>> one.
>>
>> This may not be a bug.  It depends on how you set your
>> clock.  You need to check the settings in
>> /etc/conf.d/clock and make sure you have it set up
>> correctly.  Also, if you are dual booting with windoze,
>> that makes you have to have additional settings from what I
>> have read in the past.  Windoze sets the BIOS clock
>> differently than Linux.  I don't have windoze so
>> someone else will have to help with that.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>>      

The date command has nothing to do with KDE.  The date command is part 
of this package:

root@smoker ~ # equery belongs date
  * Searching for date ...
sys-apps/coreutils-8.4 (/bin/date)
root@smoker ~ #

That is a system package.  KDE gets the time info from the system 
itself.  Keep in mind, Linux is a command line OS.  You are able to put 
a GUI such as KDE, Gnome etc etc, on top of that system.  Unlike 
Windoze, you can have a system with absolutely no monitor at all.  Heck, 
most servers run that way.  They have no monitor, no keyboard, no mouse 
or anything of the sort.  Most windoze boxes need that and have a GUI 
even if you don't use the monitor.  Gentoo usually teaches a person 
that.  The first time you boot up, if you follow the handbook, you get a 
command line and nothing else.  I usually cheat a little bit and can get 
a GUI tho.  ;-)

Linux has a factory preset but you have to tell it what time zone you 
are in.  Same with any OS I guess.  After all, you can have a OS 
anywhere in the world.  The computer has no idea where the heck it is 
until someone tells it.

Glad you got that one sorted tho.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>    
>> Well whether k3b knows it or not, there is 320Gbs of space left.  I did
>> some more testing and the drive really doesn't do anything now.  Even
>> hdparm can't read all the info so I ordered a drive about 12 hours ago.
>> I have had this brand before so maybe it will be OK.
>>      
> Well, since a while, Linux did follow Solaris and offers tmpfs on /tmp.
> tmpfs usually has the size of the RAM + sizeof Swap - something.
>
> Many programs still don't know about this limitation and try to put
> temporary files of any size into /tmp. Try to reconfigure k3b....
>
> Jörg
>
>    

This turned into a book.  The bottom few paragraphs are the most 
important parts.  It ends up working tho, just weirdly.  Is that a 
word?  o_O

Well, I got my shiney new DVD drive.  It still doesn't burn a thing.  I 
still get this which looks like the same error to me:

Burned media
-----------------------
DVD+RW

Devices
-----------------------
HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH22NP20 2.00 (/dev/hdd, CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, 
DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL) [DVD-ROM, DVD-R 
Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Jump, DVD-RAM, 
DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite, DVD-RW Sequential, DVD+RW, DVD+R, DVD+R 
Dual Layer, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, 
RAW/R16, RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R, Restricted Overwrite, Layer Jump] [%7]

K3b::IsoImager
-----------------------
mkisofs print size result: 2295193 (4700555264 bytes)

System
-----------------------
K3b Version: 1.91.0
KDE Version: 4.4.2 (KDE 4.4.2)
QT Version:  4.6.2
Kernel:      2.6.30-gentoo-r8

Used versions
-----------------------
mkisofs: 2.1.1a77
growisofs: 7.1

growisofs command:
-----------------------
/usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0 -use-the-force-luke=notray 
-use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=4gms 
-use-the-force-luke=tracksize:2295193 -speed=4 
-use-the-force-luke=bufsize:32m

mkisofs
-----------------------
/usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot add inode hints with -no-cache-inodes.
2295193
/usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot add inode hints with -no-cache-inodes.

mkisofs calculate size command:
-----------------------
/usr/bin/mkisofs -gui -graft-points -print-size -quiet -volid 
Home_2010.04.10-12.06.22_1 -volset  -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 
1998-2010 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND MICHAL MALEK -publisher  -preparer  -sysid 
LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-dale/k3bQt5497.tmp 
-rational-rock -hide-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bfl5497.tmp -joliet 
-joliet-long -hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bNZ5497.tmp 
-no-cache-inodes -udf -full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 3 -path-list 
/tmp/kde-dale/k3bqP5497.tmp

mkisofs command:
-----------------------
/usr/bin/mkisofs -gui -graft-points -volid Home_2010.04.10-12.06.22_1 
-volset  -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2010 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND 
MICHAL MALEK -publisher  -preparer  -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 
-volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-dale/k3bCQ5497.tmp -rational-rock 
-hide-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bda5497.tmp -joliet -joliet-long 
-hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bFs5497.tmp -no-cache-inodes -udf 
-full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 3 -path-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3byg5497.tmp


The regular window that is open during the burning process still gives 
the "no space left on device" error.

For the record.  This is the results of df:

root@smoker ~ # df
Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda6              9767184   1135488   8631696  12% /
udev                     10240       204     10036   2% /dev
/dev/hda1               186663     34740    142286  20% /boot
/dev/hda7              9767184   5070976   4696208  52% /home
/dev/hda9              7815308   4810880   3004428  62% /usr
/dev/hdb5             19228276   8309876   9941652  46% /usr/portage
/dev/hda10             3718856   1301408   2417448  35% /var
/dev/hdb1              9614116    183056   8942688   3% /var/tmp/portage
/dev/sda1            732549604 335804932 396744672  46% /data
none                   1037236         0   1037236   0% /dev/shm
root@smoker ~ #


I configured k3b to use /data/tmp/ for temp files.  It has well over 
300Gbs of free space.  I don't know what is out of space but it ain't my 
hard drives.

So, I stuck in a brand new, never been touched, DVD.  It tried to do the 
formatting part but it failed.  It gave the option to load anyway so I 
told it to load and try burning.  After all that, I get the same error 
listed above.  It still says no space left.

All the previous was with app-cdr/cdrtools-2.01.01_alpha77.  I then 
installed cdrtools-2.01.01_alpha75, logged out of KDE for good measure 
and tried again with the same error.

I then backed up a version of k3b.  Same thing.  No change at all.  Now 
I am confused so I am going fishing for a while.  Now that I'm back, no 
fish just attacked by the skeeters, I decided to try something else.  I 
found a older backup file that was about a little smaller than 2Gbs.  It 
burned that just fine.  No problem with it at all.  It will also burn a 
little tiny file, few Mbs or so, just fine.  So, I went back to Kbackup 
and created a new backup file.  Instead of it doing the regular "preset" 
4.7Gb file size, I made it a little smaller.  I made it a little over 
4Gbs which is actually about 3.9Gbs or so.  It made a few slices and it 
is backing them up just fine.

After this, I went back and created some new backups with the preset 
4.7Gb DVD setting that Kbackup uses.  It appears to be working now.  
Also, keep in mind that this was not the backups that failed last time.  
This is a different set of backups.

So, what the heck is up with all this?  Is it that Kbackup made a slice 
that was maybe just a wee bit to big, twice?  It was a tarball so 
wouldn't it burn it even if it was corrupt or something?

I'm going to try putting the old DVD drive in tomorrow maybe tonight and 
see if it works then.  The new one has a black face plate and my case is 
beige.  It sort of looks like I gave it a black eye or something.  LOL   
If the old drive works, this is plenty weird.  Oh well, I have a new DVD 
drive when I start to build a new rig.

Sorry this was so long.  I was writing as I was doing things.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Joerg Schilling]

Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> Used versions
> -----------------------
> mkisofs: 2.1.1a77
> growisofs: 7.1
>
> growisofs command:
> -----------------------
> /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0 -use-the-force-luke=notray 
> -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=4gms 
> -use-the-force-luke=tracksize:2295193 -speed=4 
> -use-the-force-luke=bufsize:32m

Well, if your problems are a result from using growisofs, use cdrecord instead 
of growisofs...

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Paul Hartman]

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0

This part jumps out at me.

Is /dev/hdd your new DVD burner? Is it really IDE and not SATA?

And isn't /dev/fd/0 a floppy device? Are you burning from a floppy to
an IDE drive?

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Joerg Schilling]

Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> > /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0
>
> This part jumps out at me.
>
> Is /dev/hdd your new DVD burner? Is it really IDE and not SATA?
>
> And isn't /dev/fd/0 a floppy device? Are you burning from a floppy to
> an IDE drive?

/dev/fd/0 is /dev/stdin

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Paul Hartman]

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Joerg Schilling
<Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> wrote:
> Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0
>>
>> This part jumps out at me.
>>
>> Is /dev/hdd your new DVD burner? Is it really IDE and not SATA?
>>
>> And isn't /dev/fd/0 a floppy device? Are you burning from a floppy to
>> an IDE drive?
>
> /dev/fd/0 is /dev/stdin

I learned something new, thanks :)

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Mike Edenfield]

On 4/20/2010 11:01 AM, Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>> /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0

> And isn't /dev/fd/0 a floppy device? Are you burning from a floppy to
> an IDE drive?

/dev/fd0 is a floppy.  /dev/fd/0 is file descriptor 0 for the current
process -- stdin.

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>    
>> Used versions
>> -----------------------
>> mkisofs: 2.1.1a77
>> growisofs: 7.1
>>
>> growisofs command:
>> -----------------------
>> /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0 -use-the-force-luke=notray
>> -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=4gms
>> -use-the-force-luke=tracksize:2295193 -speed=4
>> -use-the-force-luke=bufsize:32m
>>      
> Well, if your problems are a result from using growisofs, use cdrecord instead
> of growisofs...
>
> Jörg
>
>    

Well, I didn't tell it to use that either.  I let k3b take care of what 
program to use.  Funny thing is, it appears to have worked later on.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Joerg Schilling]

Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> >> -----------------------
> >> /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0 -use-the-force-luke=notray
> >> -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=4gms
> >> -use-the-force-luke=tracksize:2295193 -speed=4
> >> -use-the-force-luke=bufsize:32m
> >>      
> > Well, if your problems are a result from using growisofs, use cdrecord instead
> > of growisofs...
> >
> > Jörg
> >
> >    
>
> Well, I didn't tell it to use that either.  I let k3b take care of what 
> program to use.  Funny thing is, it appears to have worked later on.

There are many cases where growisofs has problems but cdrecord works fine.
This is one reason why newer k3b versions allow you to specify which program
to use.

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Willie Wong]

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:45:27AM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote:
> > /dev/fd/0 is /dev/stdin
> 
> I learned something new, thanks :)

To complete your education :) fd stands for file descriptor. 

fd/0 = stdin
fd/1 = stdout
fd/2 = stderr

You can create your own file descriptors and use them to manipulate
opened files. See man bash for more info. (It is, for example,
necessary if you do CLI scripting with a user interface using Dialog.)

Cheers, 

W
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Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire 
         et vice versa   ~~~  I. Newton

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.

[Dale]

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>    
>>>> -----------------------
>>>> /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0 -use-the-force-luke=notray
>>>> -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=4gms
>>>> -use-the-force-luke=tracksize:2295193 -speed=4
>>>> -use-the-force-luke=bufsize:32m
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> Well, if your problems are a result from using growisofs, use cdrecord instead
>>> of growisofs...
>>>
>>> Jörg
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> Well, I didn't tell it to use that either.  I let k3b take care of what
>> program to use.  Funny thing is, it appears to have worked later on.
>>      
> There are many cases where growisofs has problems but cdrecord works fine.
> This is one reason why newer k3b versions allow you to specify which program
> to use.
>
> Jörg
>
>    

It took me a bit to figure it out but I think I have it disabled now.  I 
saw the list but didn't know I could disable anything in the list.  I'll 
test when making my next set of backups.

Dale

:-)  :-)