[gentoo-user] KDE 4 - error when closing window

[gentoo-user] KDE 4 - error when closing window

[Crístian Viana]

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hi,

every time I close a window in KDE 4.4.1, a popup shows up saying "Starting
KTTSD Failed" and I don't know why KTTSD tries to start. I don't have it
installed right now, but when I had it, KTTSD showed up after I closed a
window for the first time, and it didn't appear again. if I don't have it,
like now, the KNotify popup appears every single time I close some window,
it's annoying.

what should I do? I know I can install KTTSD but I don't need it. I wish I
could disable the setting which triggers KTTSD every time I close a window
in KDE.

thanks!

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 - error when closing window

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:41:38 -0300, Crístian Viana wrote:

> what should I do? I know I can install KTTSD but I don't need it. I
> wish I could disable the setting which triggers KTTSD every time I
> close a window in KDE.

Is KTTSD the text-to-speech engine? Do you have something set up as a
window close notification in systemsettings?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Got kleptomania? Be sure to take something for it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 - error when closing window

[Crístian Viana]

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>
> Is KTTSD the text-to-speech engine?


yes

Do you have something set up as a window close notification in
> systemsettings?


yes, it's set up to play a sound when a window closes. just that.

I realized the KTTSD popup only shows up when I click the X button. if I
close by a menu entry, for example (like File > Close), it doesn't happen.

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:41:38 -0300, Crístian Viana wrote:
>
> > what should I do? I know I can install KTTSD but I don't need it. I
> > wish I could disable the setting which triggers KTTSD every time I
> > close a window in KDE.
>
> Is KTTSD the text-to-speech engine? Do you have something set up as a
> window close notification in systemsettings?
>
>
> --
> Neil Bothwick
>
> Got kleptomania? Be sure to take something for it.
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 - error when closing window

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:34:07 -0300, Crístian Viana wrote:

> I realized the KTTSD popup only shows up when I click the X button. if I
> close by a menu entry, for example (like File > Close), it doesn't
> happen.

I see that KWin has a notification event for Delete Window, could this be
involved?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

"Do not handicap your children by making their lives easy."
 -- Robert Heinlein

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 - error when closing window

[Mick]

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On Monday 22 March 2010 01:42:22 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:34:07 -0300, Crístian Viana wrote:
> > I realized the KTTSD popup only shows up when I click the X button. if I
> > close by a menu entry, for example (like File > Close), it doesn't
> > happen.
> 
> I see that KWin has a notification event for Delete Window, could this be
> involved?

I thought that KDE4 uses KDEWM not KWin ... ? 

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 - error when closing window

[Alan McKinnon]

On Monday 22 March 2010 21:19:16 Mick wrote:
> On Monday 22 March 2010 01:42:22 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:34:07 -0300, Crístian Viana wrote:
> > > I realized the KTTSD popup only shows up when I click the X button. if
> > > I close by a menu entry, for example (like File > Close), it doesn't
> > > happen.
> > 
> > I see that KWin has a notification event for Delete Window, could this be
> > involved?
> 
> I thought that KDE4 uses KDEWM not KWin ... ?

Dunno where you got that name. There's no such thing, and I don't think there 
ever has been:

$ locate -i kdewm
$
$ locate -i kwin | grep bin/
/usr/bin/kwin
...
$



-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 - error when closing window

[Dale]

Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Monday 22 March 2010 21:19:16 Mick wrote:
>    
>> On Monday 22 March 2010 01:42:22 Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>      
>>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:34:07 -0300, Crístian Viana wrote:
>>>        
>>>> I realized the KTTSD popup only shows up when I click the X button. if
>>>> I close by a menu entry, for example (like File>  Close), it doesn't
>>>> happen.
>>>>          
>>> I see that KWin has a notification event for Delete Window, could this be
>>> involved?
>>>        
>> I thought that KDE4 uses KDEWM not KWin ... ?
>>      
> Dunno where you got that name. There's no such thing, and I don't think there
> ever has been:
>
> $ locate -i kdewm
> $
> $ locate -i kwin | grep bin/
> /usr/bin/kwin
> ...
> $
>
>    

There is such a thing but it appears to be a variable not a executable.  
I found several references to it in the KDE mailing lists.  All related 
to KDE4 by the way.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 - error when closing window

[Mike Edenfield]

On 3/22/2010 5:46 PM, Dale wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On Monday 22 March 2010 21:19:16 Mick wrote:
>>> I thought that KDE4 uses KDEWM not KWin ... ?
>>>      
>> Dunno where you got that name. There's no such thing, and I don't
>> think there
>> ever has been:
> 
> There is such a thing but it appears to be a variable not a executable. 
> I found several references to it in the KDE mailing lists.  All related
> to KDE4 by the way.

It's not KDE4-specific, but you are correct that it's the name of an
environment variable, not an actual KDE component.

Setting KDEWM was the standard way of getting compiz instead of KWin for
your window manager in KDE3.  Now that KWin composites all by itself,
not really necessary, but the variable still works as before.

--Mike

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 - error when closing window

[Mick]

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On Monday 22 March 2010 21:46:43 Dale wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Monday 22 March 2010 21:19:16 Mick wrote:
> >> On Monday 22 March 2010 01:42:22 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:34:07 -0300, Crístian Viana wrote:
> >>>> I realized the KTTSD popup only shows up when I click the X button. if
> >>>> I close by a menu entry, for example (like File>  Close), it doesn't
> >>>> happen.
> >>>
> >>> I see that KWin has a notification event for Delete Window, could this
> >>> be involved?
> >>
> >> I thought that KDE4 uses KDEWM not KWin ... ?
> >
> > Dunno where you got that name. There's no such thing, and I don't think
> > there ever has been:
> >
> > $ locate -i kdewm
> > $
> > $ locate -i kwin | grep bin/
> > /usr/bin/kwin
> > ...
> > $
> 
> There is such a thing but it appears to be a variable not a executable.
> I found several references to it in the KDE mailing lists.  All related
> to KDE4 by the way.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)
> 
I'm prone to errors tonight - I hit Reply and ended up sending it to Alan and 
missing the list.  This is what I wrote:
========================================
Oops! You're right, $KDEWM is a variable for the window manager, which may be 
defined as the kwin.

test -n "$KDEWM" && KDEWM="--windowmanager $KDEWM"

Sorry for the noise.
========================================
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 - error when closing window

[Crístian Viana]

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>
> I see that KWin has a notification event for Delete Window, could this be

involved?


how do I check what's set up for that event? there's nothing unusual in
Notifications > System Notifications > The KDE Window Manager nor in Window
Behavior > Window-Specific.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 - error when closing window

[Dale]

Mick wrote:
> On Monday 22 March 2010 21:46:43 Dale wrote:
>    
>> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>      
>>> On Monday 22 March 2010 21:19:16 Mick wrote:
>>>        
>>>> On Monday 22 March 2010 01:42:22 Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>>>          
>>>>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:34:07 -0300, Crístian Viana wrote:
>>>>>            
>>>>>> I realized the KTTSD popup only shows up when I click the X button. if
>>>>>> I close by a menu entry, for example (like File>   Close), it doesn't
>>>>>> happen.
>>>>>>              
>>>>> I see that KWin has a notification event for Delete Window, could this
>>>>> be involved?
>>>>>            
>>>> I thought that KDE4 uses KDEWM not KWin ... ?
>>>>          
>>> Dunno where you got that name. There's no such thing, and I don't think
>>> there ever has been:
>>>
>>> $ locate -i kdewm
>>> $
>>> $ locate -i kwin | grep bin/
>>> /usr/bin/kwin
>>> ...
>>> $
>>>        
>> There is such a thing but it appears to be a variable not a executable.
>> I found several references to it in the KDE mailing lists.  All related
>> to KDE4 by the way.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>>
>>      
> I'm prone to errors tonight - I hit Reply and ended up sending it to Alan and
> missing the list.  This is what I wrote:
> ========================================
> Oops! You're right, $KDEWM is a variable for the window manager, which may be
> defined as the kwin.
>
> test -n "$KDEWM"&&  KDEWM="--windowmanager $KDEWM"
>
> Sorry for the noise.
> ========================================
>    

Noise, what noise?  Heck, this is how we learn.  If we wasn't learning 
something, we would have to know everything.  My head ain't that big.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 - error when closing window

[Crístian Viana]

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>
> I see that KWin has a notification event for Delete Window, could this be

involved?


hey, I just found out what the problem was :-)

in the file ~/.kde4/share/config/kwin.notifyrc, there was an entry in
Event/close which was telling KTTS to say out loud "Good bye" (so lame of
me, isn't it). I think I may have set that up a long time ago, to test KTTS,
and I didn't remember doing it... anyway, I just cleared the KTTS line and
removed "KTTS" from the Action line, and the popup doesn't appear anymore.

the weird thing is that the KTTS setting still works if the notifyrc file
says so, but there's no GUI option to turn if on/off. I'm sure I didn't do
this by editing a text file; some previous KDE version must have allowed me
doing it via System Setttings. now it doesn't.

thanks for your help!

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