[gentoo-user] Question about Seamonkey and a test.

[gentoo-user] Question about Seamonkey and a test.

[Dale]

Hi,

I just gave Seamonkey a fresh start.  Now I have a question.  I had the 
old set up so that when I opened Seamonkey, it would start both the 
browser and email.  Now it only starts the browser.  I remember it was 
in the preferences somewhere but I can't find it for the life of me.  
Does someone here recall exactly where this setting is by any chance?  I 
found one in about:config but I'm sort of chicken to change it not being 
sure it is it.

Also, I'm hoping this page will arrive and not be blank.  Also, can 
someone confirm this is TEXT ONLY with no HTML stuff.

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Question about Seamonkey and a test.

[Zeerak Mustafa Waseem]

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On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 04:06:56AM -0500, Dale wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just gave Seamonkey a fresh start.  Now I have a question.  I had the 
> old set up so that when I opened Seamonkey, it would start both the 
> browser and email.  Now it only starts the browser.  I remember it was 
> in the preferences somewhere but I can't find it for the life of me.  
> Does someone here recall exactly where this setting is by any chance?  I 
> found one in about:config but I'm sort of chicken to change it not being 
> sure it is it.
> 
> Also, I'm hoping this page will arrive and not be blank.  Also, can 
> someone confirm this is TEXT ONLY with no HTML stuff.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)
> 

You are html free :-)

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[gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

[Hartmut Figge]

Dale:

>I just gave Seamonkey a fresh start.  Now I have a question.  I had the 
>old set up so that when I opened Seamonkey, it would start both the 
>browser and email.  Now it only starts the browser.  I remember it was 
>in the preferences somewhere but I can't find it for the life of me.

Check the desired option.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100317.png (12 KB)

>Also, I'm hoping this page will arrive and not be blank.  Also, can 
>someone confirm this is TEXT ONLY with no HTML stuff.

It's OK. You could see yourself by using Ctrl+U. ;)

Hartmut

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

[Dale]

Hartmut Figge wrote:
> Dale:
>
>    
>> I just gave Seamonkey a fresh start.  Now I have a question.  I had the
>> old set up so that when I opened Seamonkey, it would start both the
>> browser and email.  Now it only starts the browser.  I remember it was
>> in the preferences somewhere but I can't find it for the life of me.
>>      
> Check the desired option.
> http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100317.png (12 KB)
>
>    
>> Also, I'm hoping this page will arrive and not be blank.  Also, can
>> someone confirm this is TEXT ONLY with no HTML stuff.
>>      
> It's OK. You could see yourself by using Ctrl+U. ;)
>
> Hartmut
>
>    

Thanks for the link.  I looked everywhere else but there.  I was 
thinking that only themes, fonts and such was in there.  lol

I have sent messages to the list before with it set to plain text but it 
still have html when the list got it.  So, since I am starting over 
basically with this setup, I wanted to make sure it was not only sent 
plain text but received that way as well.  Now if gmail would just send 
me a copy of my message, then I would know for sure.

Thanks for help on both of these.  I'm back in action again and didn't 
lose any info.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

[stosss]

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:04 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hartmut Figge wrote:
>>
>> Dale:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I just gave Seamonkey a fresh start.  Now I have a question.  I had the
>>> old set up so that when I opened Seamonkey, it would start both the
>>> browser and email.  Now it only starts the browser.  I remember it was
>>> in the preferences somewhere but I can't find it for the life of me.
>>>
>>
>> Check the desired option.
>> http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100317.png (12 KB)
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Also, I'm hoping this page will arrive and not be blank.  Also, can
>>> someone confirm this is TEXT ONLY with no HTML stuff.
>>>
>>
>> It's OK. You could see yourself by using Ctrl+U. ;)
>>
>> Hartmut
>>
>>
>
> Thanks for the link.  I looked everywhere else but there.  I was thinking
> that only themes, fonts and such was in there.  lol
>
> I have sent messages to the list before with it set to plain text but it
> still have html when the list got it.  So, since I am starting over
> basically with this setup, I wanted to make sure it was not only sent plain
> text but received that way as well.  Now if gmail would just send me a copy
> of my message, then I would know for sure.
>
> Thanks for help on both of these.  I'm back in action again and didn't lose
> any info.

You have to set that up in gmail settings.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

[Dale]

stosss wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:04 AM, Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>  wrote:
>    
>> Hartmut Figge wrote:
>>      
>>> Dale:
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>>> I just gave Seamonkey a fresh start.  Now I have a question.  I had the
>>>> old set up so that when I opened Seamonkey, it would start both the
>>>> browser and email.  Now it only starts the browser.  I remember it was
>>>> in the preferences somewhere but I can't find it for the life of me.
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> Check the desired option.
>>> http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100317.png (12 KB)
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>>> Also, I'm hoping this page will arrive and not be blank.  Also, can
>>>> someone confirm this is TEXT ONLY with no HTML stuff.
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> It's OK. You could see yourself by using Ctrl+U. ;)
>>>
>>> Hartmut
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> Thanks for the link.  I looked everywhere else but there.  I was thinking
>> that only themes, fonts and such was in there.  lol
>>
>> I have sent messages to the list before with it set to plain text but it
>> still have html when the list got it.  So, since I am starting over
>> basically with this setup, I wanted to make sure it was not only sent plain
>> text but received that way as well.  Now if gmail would just send me a copy
>> of my message, then I would know for sure.
>>
>> Thanks for help on both of these.  I'm back in action again and didn't lose
>> any info.
>>      
> You have to set that up in gmail settings.
>
>    

I think I have it set up on the gmail server to do whatever Seamonkey 
says.  Then I have to set up Seamonkey to send text only to gentoo.org 
and kde.org .  Those are the two mailing lists I regularly reply to.  I 
only want plain text to the mailing lists and html for everyone else.  I 
send pics and other things to other folks.

I assume that is what you are talking about.  I have not been able to 
get gmail to send me a copy.  I know the mailing list software sends a 
copy back but gmail won't let me get it over pop access.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

[stosss]

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> stosss wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:04 AM, Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hartmut Figge wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dale:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I just gave Seamonkey a fresh start.  Now I have a question.  I had the
>>>>> old set up so that when I opened Seamonkey, it would start both the
>>>>> browser and email.  Now it only starts the browser.  I remember it was
>>>>> in the preferences somewhere but I can't find it for the life of me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Check the desired option.
>>>> http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100317.png (12 KB)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I'm hoping this page will arrive and not be blank.  Also, can
>>>>> someone confirm this is TEXT ONLY with no HTML stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's OK. You could see yourself by using Ctrl+U. ;)
>>>>
>>>> Hartmut
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the link.  I looked everywhere else but there.  I was thinking
>>> that only themes, fonts and such was in there.  lol
>>>
>>> I have sent messages to the list before with it set to plain text but it
>>> still have html when the list got it.  So, since I am starting over
>>> basically with this setup, I wanted to make sure it was not only sent
>>> plain
>>> text but received that way as well.  Now if gmail would just send me a
>>> copy
>>> of my message, then I would know for sure.
>>>
>>> Thanks for help on both of these.  I'm back in action again and didn't
>>> lose
>>> any info.
>>>
>>
>> You have to set that up in gmail settings.
>>
>>
>
> I think I have it set up on the gmail server to do whatever Seamonkey says.
>  Then I have to set up Seamonkey to send text only to gentoo.org and kde.org
> .  Those are the two mailing lists I regularly reply to.  I only want plain
> text to the mailing lists and html for everyone else.  I send pics and other
> things to other folks.
>
> I assume that is what you are talking about.  I have not been able to get
> gmail to send me a copy.  I know the mailing list software sends a copy back
> but gmail won't let me get it over pop access.

sorry, I was talking about setting gmail to send you a copy of your email.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

[Dale]

stosss wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>  wrote:
>    
>> I think I have it set up on the gmail server to do whatever Seamonkey says.
>>   Then I have to set up Seamonkey to send text only to gentoo.org and kde.org
>> .  Those are the two mailing lists I regularly reply to.  I only want plain
>> text to the mailing lists and html for everyone else.  I send pics and other
>> things to other folks.
>>
>> I assume that is what you are talking about.  I have not been able to get
>> gmail to send me a copy.  I know the mailing list software sends a copy back
>> but gmail won't let me get it over pop access.
>>      
> sorry, I was talking about setting gmail to send you a copy of your email.
>
>
>    

Where is that setting?  I have looked but maybe they are calling it 
something that I'm not recognizing.  I just looked again and they have 
added a LOT of new settings.  I don't see that one tho.  It is hiding 
from me and I would really like to have that.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

[stosss]

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:51 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> stosss wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I think I have it set up on the gmail server to do whatever Seamonkey
>>> says.
>>>  Then I have to set up Seamonkey to send text only to gentoo.org and
>>> kde.org
>>> .  Those are the two mailing lists I regularly reply to.  I only want
>>> plain
>>> text to the mailing lists and html for everyone else.  I send pics and
>>> other
>>> things to other folks.
>>>
>>> I assume that is what you are talking about.  I have not been able to get
>>> gmail to send me a copy.  I know the mailing list software sends a copy
>>> back
>>> but gmail won't let me get it over pop access.
>>>
>>
>> sorry, I was talking about setting gmail to send you a copy of your email.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Where is that setting?  I have looked but maybe they are calling it
> something that I'm not recognizing.  I just looked again and they have added
> a LOT of new settings.  I don't see that one tho.  It is hiding from me and
> I would really like to have that.

It does not appear to be possible now. I have never used it. I like
the way it puts it in the thread in my account.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

[Dale]

stosss wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:51 AM, Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>  wrote:
>    
>> stosss wrote:
>>      
>>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>    wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>> I think I have it set up on the gmail server to do whatever Seamonkey
>>>> says.
>>>>   Then I have to set up Seamonkey to send text only to gentoo.org and
>>>> kde.org
>>>> .  Those are the two mailing lists I regularly reply to.  I only want
>>>> plain
>>>> text to the mailing lists and html for everyone else.  I send pics and
>>>> other
>>>> things to other folks.
>>>>
>>>> I assume that is what you are talking about.  I have not been able to get
>>>> gmail to send me a copy.  I know the mailing list software sends a copy
>>>> back
>>>> but gmail won't let me get it over pop access.
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> sorry, I was talking about setting gmail to send you a copy of your email.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> Where is that setting?  I have looked but maybe they are calling it
>> something that I'm not recognizing.  I just looked again and they have added
>> a LOT of new settings.  I don't see that one tho.  It is hiding from me and
>> I would really like to have that.
>>      
> It does not appear to be possible now. I have never used it. I like
> the way it puts it in the thread in my account.
>
>
>    

Ahhh, I use the email client part of Seamonkey.  I don't use the webmail 
for gmail.  It has a copy, last I looked, in the inbox but it doesn't 
let it be downloaded with pop access.  I hope that makes sense.  ;-)

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

[Florian Philipp]

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Am 17.03.2010 12:21, schrieb Dale:
> stosss wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:51 AM, Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>   
>>> stosss wrote:
>>>     
>>>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>    wrote:
>>>>
>>>>       
[...]

>>>>>
>>>>> I assume that is what you are talking about.  I have not been able
>>>>> to get
>>>>> gmail to send me a copy.  I know the mailing list software sends a
>>>>> copy
>>>>> back
>>>>> but gmail won't let me get it over pop access.
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>> sorry, I was talking about setting gmail to send you a copy of your
>>>> email.
>>>>        
>>> Where is that setting?  I have looked but maybe they are calling it
>>> something that I'm not recognizing.  I just looked again and they
>>> have added
>>> a LOT of new settings.  I don't see that one tho.  It is hiding from
>>> me and
>>> I would really like to have that.
>>>      
>> It does not appear to be possible now. I have never used it. I like
>> the way it puts it in the thread in my account.
>>    
> Ahhh, I use the email client part of Seamonkey.  I don't use the webmail
> for gmail.  It has a copy, last I looked, in the inbox but it doesn't
> let it be downloaded with pop access.  I hope that makes sense.  ;-)
> 

I've never tried it but couldn't you just create a filter in Seamonkey
which copies all mails in 'Sent Items' to your inbox which where sent to
a mailing list (Extras -> Filter ...)?

Also, at least in Thunderbird, you can set the 'Sent Items' folder for
each account and each identity (Edit -> Account settings -> Additional
Identities). So, if you create a different identity for sending to the
mailing list, you could just let Seamonkey put your sent items in your
inbox.

Hope this helps,
Florian Philipp

P.S. I had to translate all buttons and setting names from German to
English. Therefore 'Additional Idenities' could also be 'More
Identities' and so on.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

[Dale]

Florian Philipp wrote:
> I've never tried it but couldn't you just create a filter in Seamonkey
> which copies all mails in 'Sent Items' to your inbox which where sent to
> a mailing list (Extras ->  Filter ...)?
>
> Also, at least in Thunderbird, you can set the 'Sent Items' folder for
> each account and each identity (Edit ->  Account settings ->  Additional
> Identities). So, if you create a different identity for sending to the
> mailing list, you could just let Seamonkey put your sent items in your
> inbox.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Florian Philipp
>
> P.S. I had to translate all buttons and setting names from German to
> English. Therefore 'Additional Idenities' could also be 'More
> Identities' and so on.
>
>    

I don't know if Seamonkey can do that or not.  What I have tried is to 
CC myself, BCC myself and setting up the gmail server so that I can have 
a copy.  The only way that I know works is to go to the sent folder and 
just copy it to the folder for the mailing list.

The biggest problem with that is that the first message I send doesn't 
thread properly.  So basically anyone who responds just appears out of 
nowhere.  If I send a new message to this list and two people respond, 
it is two separate threads.  Which is sometimes confusing.  I usually 
tag the threads I start in red just to make sure I don't miss something.

I think what I need is to change my email address ONE MORE TIME.  I need 
a server that will send me copies and also not filter spam.  I rarely 
use the webmail part and I do get false positives sometimes and have to 
go dig on the server to find them.  I have to do this every couple weeks 
with gmail now.  I thought about just paying for Yahoo since I have 
three accounts there.  I could pay for one of them and then have pop 
access.  I think I can disable their spam filters too.

I think to much sometimes.   :/

Dale

:-)  :-)

[gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

[Hartmut Figge]

Dale:

>The biggest problem with that is that the first message I send doesn't 
>thread properly.  So basically anyone who responds just appears out of 
>nowhere.  If I send a new message to this list and two people respond, 
>it is two separate threads.  Which is sometimes confusing.  I usually 
>tag the threads I start in red just to make sure I don't miss something.

Since many years i am using all of my mailing lists via news.gmane.org.
Maybe this is an option for you also.

http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ge100317.png (55 KB)

Hartmut

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

[Dale]

Hartmut Figge wrote:
> Dale:
>
>    
>> The biggest problem with that is that the first message I send doesn't
>> thread properly.  So basically anyone who responds just appears out of
>> nowhere.  If I send a new message to this list and two people respond,
>> it is two separate threads.  Which is sometimes confusing.  I usually
>> tag the threads I start in red just to make sure I don't miss something.
>>      
> Since many years i am using all of my mailing lists via news.gmane.org.
> Maybe this is an option for you also.
>
> http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ge100317.png (55 KB)
>
> Hartmut
>
>    

I tried that once but I never could get it to work for me.  I started 
out doing it the way I am because I was on dial-up.  I could download my 
email and disconnect, then read them at my leisure.  If I needed to 
reply, I could type it in then send it when I connected again.  It 
worked.  Now I have DSL and that does change a lot of things.  It 
certainly made updating Gentoo a lot faster, especially Open Office.

May have to check into some things and see how I like it.

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

[Frank Steinmetzger]

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Am Mittwoch 17 März 2010 schrieb Dale:

> I only want plain text to the mailing lists and html for everyone else.  I
> send pics and other things to other folks.

Ya don’t need HTML for that. ;-)

I have even seen mails that were multiparted plain-text, i.e. text, image 
attachment, text, image-attachment, you get the idea. Don’t know anymore 
though what program that was.
-- 
Gruß | Greetings | Qapla'
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

[stosss]

On Wednesday, March 17, 2010, Frank Steinmetzger <Warp_7@gmx.de> wrote:
> Am Mittwoch 17 März 2010 schrieb Dale:
>
>> I only want plain text to the mailing lists and html for everyone else.  I
>> send pics and other things to other folks.
>
> Ya don’t need HTML for that. ;-)
>
> I have even seen mails that were multiparted plain-text, i.e. text, image
> attachment, text, image-attachment, you get the idea. Don’t know anymore
> though what program that was.

KMail does multi-parted

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

[Dale]

stosss wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 17, 2010, Frank Steinmetzger<Warp_7@gmx.de>  wrote:
>    
>> Am Mittwoch 17 März 2010 schrieb Dale:
>>
>>      
>>> I only want plain text to the mailing lists and html for everyone else.  I
>>> send pics and other things to other folks.
>>>        
>> Ya don’t need HTML for that. ;-)
>>
>> I have even seen mails that were multiparted plain-text, i.e. text, image
>> attachment, text, image-attachment, you get the idea. Don’t know anymore
>> though what program that was.
>>      
> KMail does multi-parted
>
>
>    

I try to keep it simple.  If it gets to complicated, it will mess up 
eventually and I get to keep the pieces.  lol

Dale

:-) :-)