From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NpomT-00087N-OM for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:14:54 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D386E0C43; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:14:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gy0-f181.google.com (mail-gy0-f181.google.com [209.85.160.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21933E0C43 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:14:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4so224828gyg.40 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:14:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RMlW8G0EP8BP2tsSpBRBzGCfsQdXFuYo9sZFdEnp9aY=; b=D/frMzvaChIkROaKYTWrTyWGbP8eYtH0IsOpZRgJmJlBxC2C4CBZvC1E/YIJX0LrnJ Y6NLGN2pus3H6bfeGqfywg3nMGTLYGS5eoGIJYMp6jYfnoJ7lEGrxKB90QylyaUfEMEu oTFhTbey11/yLULAtGd9yxhOIdpKzPVXHrZEk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cpVF4vTTQNBNU+Npwn35KQ9Gl/jx1zOdX7O9AIEUYvOQjBDxKLgrsUYiimCLs7zSkY cMlQ5IYn5Ukp3nyd/zysnFmLTxJYHyOlA04w8DQhQXPagZ61buU6VM6StZ7fC7FiL4Cg we4D19retb+WPdtVn1PdJz/hzs9YLnoKIP1dc= Received: by 10.150.48.31 with SMTP id v31mr37576ybv.319.1268338446249; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:14:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.1] (adsl-0-93-132.jan.bellsouth.net [65.0.93.132]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm109676ywh.31.2010.03.11.12.14.02 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:14:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B994F08.8020202@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:14:00 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100304 Gentoo/2.0.3 SeaMonkey/2.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here! References: <9acccfe51002231827q26e94e64s7f29ec46b6675156@mail.gmail.com> <201003092112.14250.wonko@wonkology.org> <4B96C327.9010603@gmail.com> <201003111522.56075.wonko@wonkology.org> In-Reply-To: <201003111522.56075.wonko@wonkology.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: bd100d22-12a1-439e-8c70-b405395f01a4 X-Archives-Hash: 5728819a9136daa4baa8d45c6b37909d Alex Schuster wrote: > Dale writes: > > >> Alex Schuster wrote: >> >>> Dale, you brave, brave man, are you really using KDE4 now? >>> > >> I am in KDE4. I still have KDE3 installed tho. Thing is, I'm still >> using the same programs I was in KDE3. Dolphin looks nice and all but >> I can't use it as root at all. >> > Huh? No problem here. > > OT: does anyone know about dolphin somehow accessing all files it shows? I > see this on a system that uses dolphin to browse remote files via the fish > protocol. Previews are not enabled, but all the files are accessed, which > means it takes about one hour until the directory is shown, because all > files are being retrieved from a SAM-FS server. Maybe it is reading the > magic number for each file? I will try konqueror now. > > This is what I am talking about. Dolphin will browse through directories but as soon as I click to open a text file, it gives a error. I have discussed this on the kde list and it is a known problem. One even said the code was written to prevent that but others say it is just not fixed yet. So, I still use Konqueror just like I did in KDE 3. >> So, I went back to Konqueror to edit >> config files and such. I don't use some of the programs that you are >> using so I don't have the same issues. I use smplayer to do movies or >> CDs. It doesn't care what DE you use. >> > Ah, smplayer. Did not think about that. It was not important anyway - I > had ripped a CD with K3b, and wondered why two tracks were swapped. BTW, > what do you use for ripping? K3b is okay, but it does not remember changes > like output path or file naming, I have to set this again for every CD. > But smplayer does not recognise the CD either. I wonder why I do not have > a /dev/cdrom device - only /dev/cdrom3, /dev/cdrw3, /dev/dvd3 and > /dev/dvdrw3, all symlinking to /dev/sr0. > > > I have used tkdvd to burn a DVD. It ain't pretty but it worked. ;-) >> I do like the looks of KDE4. I still think they dropped KDE3 to soon. >> KDE4 will get there but it is still having issues many months after >> dropping KDE3. Bad thing is, I don't think they care about the users >> they left hanging in the wind. >> > I also think KDE3 was dropped too soon. While KDE4 is usable now for most > things, it still has too many bugs, and a while ago it had many many more, > while development and bug fixing of KDE3 was already stopped. > On the other hand, manpower is limited, and I understand the decision to > focus on the new project rather than doing stuff for the old one that soon > noone will be using. KDE 3.5 is still there. I don't know about the > security issues, would it be unsafe now to use KDE 3.5? I remember > something about kpfd being masked due to security holes. > > Wonko > > I understand the second hand but it still leaves the users out in the cold. I'm hoping the release of KDE 5 will be handled better but I'm not holding my breath. Dale :-) :-)