From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NocKt-0000QS-4T for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:45:27 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF556E089C; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:44:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blingymail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (caibbdcaaaaf.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.5]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94122E089C for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:44:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.110] (smtp.media-brokers.com [70.43.81.99]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blingymail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD6855CDFD for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 04:44:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B94F11D.50008@libertytrek.org> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 07:44:13 -0500 From: Tanstaafl User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081209 Lightning/0.9 Thunderbird/2.0.0.19 Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple Update Issues - what order should things be done? References: <4B9156ED.1050407@libertytrek.org> <201003060853.46649.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <4B92A149.5080306@libertytrek.org> <201003072017.18625.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201003072017.18625.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 6edf9d97-43b0-4998-903a-9a82bf193f68 X-Archives-Hash: e5a7192d3b77135391037fc7c53e882d On 2010-03-07 1:17 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Saturday 06 March 2010 20:39:05 Tanstaafl wrote: >> Baselayout2 is still not stable, so, yes, I'm still on baselayout1, >> and now you've gone and made me nervous again. ;) >> >> Are you suggesting I should already be using it?? > You are going to have to switch sometime, the day will come when > baselayout-2 goes stable. Any idea how far away this might be? Are we talking a year or more? > Seeing as you plan a large update anyway, which will have downtime, > this would be an ideal opportunity. Well, I here you, but I'm of the old school, and for production systems, prefer not to change critical system stuff like this unless/until it goes stable. > However, the update is deep and you will be marking a lot of things > unstable if you do. On a production machine you might not want to do > that. Only you can say if it's a step you are willing to take. On > the plus side, baselayout-1 will still work for a very long time to > come. Ok, good, in that case I'll wait, because we are planning on rolling out a new server sometime in the next year or two, and we'll be installing from scratch. > When the time to change comes around, set aside an hour or two for > the job. It's not a complex change, but many files need to be > updated, there's all sorts of things in /etc/rc.conf and /etc/conf.d > that must be re-organized and you will want to double check all > affected packages. > > Like I said, it's not complex, and it won't cause you to meet your > maker. Everything is well documented, but it is lengthy and tedious > and you want to finish it all in one sitting - if for no other reason > than if you come back to it later, you won't remember how far you got > :-) Gotcha... I'm feeling much better now... ;) >> Ok, where is the best place to go to start reading/learning about >> how to prep for it? > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openrc-migration.xml Ok, I'd already found that, so thanks for confirming I'm in the right place. And thanks again for all the helpful comments... :) -- Charles