From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NgS2e-0000U0-NB for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:08:52 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D0BEE0743; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f185.google.com (mail-yx0-f185.google.com [209.85.210.185]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8B9E0743 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe15 with SMTP id 15so2976276yxe.9 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:08:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qHl+2/Tr0H+fLCSXKnpohMl+6VQy3cOAoPUnA8nVRRc=; b=N+h2j4j6VrGGNclJnOD7lEsIcFcfvkBugq145RnlMVuCSwJFjHVEIUwMjkUjkpWve3 8VakQS+GJYM9dT9Bnt4oilt/JJNkY2fByVwHV12xqKB9BfC8csG99hhg+RlBhZjg5gzY 4HtmUPeCs41Enylu8mu4EfEyTEkz8F60SOk8Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=s5ul4sNgPm7ndHzZT5YoNzstc38GwSIPmcpOlerulRvrYJACQ8b4lwaQURakTdGBnR n780bqM3oqaVFw2Wz/csipMPRQ0ixy2BFVC8PXzcZMDTkGOJXU245INs4WVGQ7nAqHnn S6zttWAIHbutNuUuN2Xuy+w6W7odJfWeEmLNg= Received: by 10.150.251.6 with SMTP id y6mr2898243ybh.297.1266106092909; Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:08:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.1? (adsl-0-92-165.jan.bellsouth.net [65.0.92.165]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm1885473ywf.5.2010.02.13.16.08.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:08:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B773EE8.4010608@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:08:08 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100205 Gentoo/2.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.0.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Ramifications of memtest86. Got it! References: <20100212085453.GA1207@muc.de> <201002121050.46463.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <20100212112221.GA1422@muc.de> <20100212124330.GB1422@muc.de> <4B754D02.3010700@gmail.com> <20100212132335.GC1422@muc.de> <4B756535.3050404@gmail.com> <20100212192524.GC1560@muc.de> <4B75E3FB.6070603@gmail.com> <20100213174347.GA1783@muc.de> In-Reply-To: <20100213174347.GA1783@muc.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 6c068593-7036-4fcc-b8ec-297acc3e107f X-Archives-Hash: 827f357acb842767c2612a0528ff68d0 chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: > Hi, Dale, > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 05:27:55PM -0600, Dale wrote: > >> chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: >> > >>> The shop who sold me the components suggested running memtest86 with >>> just one RAM stick at a time. It turns out, one was duff, the other's >>> just fine. (It went ~20 minutes on memtest86 without any errors.) So >>> it looks like I'll be running on 2Gb only until I get a replacement >>> for the broken one. >>> > > >>> Many thanks to all who helped me track this one down! >>> > > >>>> Dale >>>> > > >>>> :-) :-) >>>> > > >> There you go. Most likely one little transistor that went belly up. >> Considering there are millions of those little devils on there, no >> surprise at all. >> > Oh, don't be like that! You're saying, like, another "little" transistor > will soon be going. ;-) > That's not what I meant at all. Consider the odds. There are millions of little circuits on those chips, even a 0.0001% failure rate can mean the chip is bad. They either all work or the chip doesn't work. > >> Glad you got it sorted out and that is better than a lot of other >> options. Since it is new, I hope you have a good warranty that will >> make it a cheap fix as well. >> > I bought my PC components from a premium quality shop, the sort that > behaves like a gentleman and honours its guarantees. Its email support > gets back to you within an hour or so (in business hours). The > proprietor said I needed to send back _both_ RAM sticks (since they have > a joint serial number), but he's sending me a replacement pair first, so > my machine remains working. > > For all that, the cost of this PC was less than half that of its > predecessor, a 1.2 GHz Athlon machine from ~2001. With desktop PCs now > being so ridiculously cheap anyhow, it seems false economy to buy from a > lesser vendor. > > >> Dale >> > >> :-) :-) >> > I bought mine from newegg and they stand behind theirs too. Things is, the person you buy them from doesn't decide if it is a bad one or not. It's just a luck of the draw. I doubt there are many companies that want to sell something that is broken. It's not good for business. If you bought the memory sticks as a set, they do usually want them returned as a set. That's normal. I have seen that many times. Glad you got something working tho. Dale :-) :-)