From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NfEwo-0003CN-G0 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:57:50 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A5744E0A87; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:57:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f172.google.com (mail-yw0-f172.google.com [209.85.211.172]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E32AE0A87 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:57:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh2 with SMTP id 2so187851ywh.2 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:57:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2KgZ4xRWqxYJpoVwZ+oliFU5ILf53bKmEYl+oVZzt0E=; b=OQc3qPYVBvz8snpDPtVcNM8GfvERJmS8OE/hO9H9y9L4tDXnI4mdRhSXM5z+cU7gJa LrtSadmoC9MSfr3ezBpfEbK9zf5sbvik1a5M6R8StfoAP553E24OMTZFf+dSZ6cR4jdQ 56/MBQ0NGlPZ6jZFEdV4no9u9C6R4vmj04erA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uFUusJ1Lz04sMp76AwhypJi0w+N5CMqbsKelnMqC7ot0z1q0Xw2/si1vXWQpT5ywjq dY/V8w+h3z35Zk1y2hOEFov258uPBnfT5pbG9FItDMqdbMBO4f+YXqMdmROh4JLfm5bv EnF3Zn5JKEP9HNI141FD5yVbgcBQgMIZCC4Q4= Received: by 10.101.54.18 with SMTP id g18mr496549ank.35.1265817435027; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:57:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.1? (adsl-0-92-152.jan.bellsouth.net [65.0.92.152]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm492782ywd.7.2010.02.10.07.57.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:57:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B72D757.20106@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:57:11 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100205 Gentoo/2.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.0.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files? References: <20100208222047.GA6553@muc.de> <4B720C0E.7020706@gmail.com> <201002100912.47788.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <4B72D280.8000102@kutulu.org> In-Reply-To: <4B72D280.8000102@kutulu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 2fb6a889-1b8e-4545-908a-028b834f1b46 X-Archives-Hash: 90c18559b2bf00d35942d94bd9af755e chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: > On 2/10/2010 2:12 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On Wednesday 10 February 2010 03:29:50 Dale wrote: >>> Well, actually, if hal would have worked I wouldn't have cared if it >>> uses xorg.conf at all. That was the point of using hal. Thing is, I >>> followed the howto and it didn't work. The fact that the config files >>> are in xml only became a problem after hal locked me out of my GUI and >>> required a hard shutdown. >>> >> >> hal is a classic "Second System Effect" case >> >> But I thought we thrashed this to death a while ago and all agreed to >> never >> speak of this abomination again, while we await the Third System >> Effect aka >> DeviceKit? >> > > Last I heard DeviceKit was "deprecated before it even happened" and > they're just going to move everything into udev. > > --Mike > > Well, udev does seem to work at least. lol Maybe the devicekit guy could just slide over and help the udev people? Heck, as long as it works, I'm fine with it. I just don't like having to unexpectedly do a hard reboot. Dale :-) :-)