From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nf9km-0007dL-Pf for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:25:05 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2989AE0A6F; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:24:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f211.google.com (mail-gx0-f211.google.com [209.85.217.211]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F8AE0A6F for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:24:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3so2613012gxk.6 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:24:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KJREHYnkuPvsTHysw3Ql3wZAlFx9vAb3PVxMKWTtlWY=; b=Z4IvOxaq1DJrJTR1GZyL6hqB2HxNUeMv12D7LwkBvs0tv2y9JsX7gyqCrsqcfjpgT1 A7Irie66fxo+ombTAQTp51GChuvlAVxUinjWT88wodAtFHOFSnd7fSI+THEmt3KJ+G5S FoQLUWOZjYA3vUCQ9c918ck8eTx88tC8N8hR8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qn9wDxTDAbcvbQ5hV/nMomL5SJtteD9KWjP3hkXPmAN8BnAefuxFec899zALuqa6Pi Eox7PXI7WG1t7t7qcRO/dC3XIsCYRAFmbhHm3aqMgrwz1qDFNtWYABTt5U9jraD/cpKV 2n/QTzuAmmCTOLEVpDQw0O7VzY7ekx5sO6qEg= Received: by 10.101.168.1 with SMTP id v1mr57441ano.34.1265797458616; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:24:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.1? (adsl-0-92-152.jan.bellsouth.net [65.0.92.152]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm395897ywh.2.2010.02.10.02.24.15 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:24:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B72894C.30206@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:24:12 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100205 Gentoo/2.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.0.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files? References: <20100208222047.GA6553@muc.de> <4B720C0E.7020706@gmail.com> <201002100912.47788.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <4B726D44.8010709@gmail.com> <20100210093852.6ca601af@digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20100210093852.6ca601af@digimed.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: c6238111-d6f7-4849-8e09-876f7c88ad7a X-Archives-Hash: 76998b906e514fdb32a23397670d8910 chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: > On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:24:36 -0600, Dale wrote: > > >>> hal is a classic "Second System Effect" case >>> > >>> But I thought we thrashed this to death a while ago and all agreed to >>> never speak of this abomination again, while we await the Third >>> System Effect aka DeviceKit? >>> > >> From what I read it appears to be the same guy doing both. Maybe, >> just maybe, some lessons were learned and it will be a lot better. >> > Isn't that the point of redoing it? It's when someone else comes along > with brand new way of doing things that we get a whole load of brand new > problems? > > That was my point. I'm hoping he sees the "weaknesses" of hal and doesn't put those in devicekit. I'm hopeful it will be better not just the same old thing with a new name. Speaking of improvements, I'll be glad when Seamonkey sorts out that top line up there. It appears that Seamonkey 2 still has a bug up its butt. lol Dale :-) :-)