From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nf7sp-0003d3-Bd for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:25:15 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3E6EE09B7; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:24:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f172.google.com (mail-yw0-f172.google.com [209.85.211.172]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7EA6E09B7 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:24:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh2 with SMTP id 2so3209506ywh.2 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:24:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2t23+lB/tbtzlvSie6IJHhWy+DLjW7mE4LVISM7mZJo=; b=LvD82GHl3P52EN/f6o9cl/meZJGJBMDiK8NoajFRANBoB3Hyc+q6pI0dC5baPW7dJm fmJ42zpyzp8sSIMheMRpJKH2P5r1MQuYkO0WfWEf/dej+C5yrSOxM5oIDnwQcJ6Dt3h0 pHD4teQrItBWKNwfPgTF9w15MrnzkFeoaOxYU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Ux3iEMEVVd9SyATq1SKL63QkErGcIUDLtKWTR89BRa1W1Ay/N+5DGTnDdHTVxsUkuV Dmq2Tyy4JYgWwXXXjC9NMXQBSQ30RhIoEY3WlQtriCpzWaBsSjLE1o36c+JOuWGDs85I v06Sfp1P7pB+WwRGs1n9ZpA+UPOM3c4mso8vw= Received: by 10.101.175.28 with SMTP id c28mr4878741anp.85.1265790279328; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:24:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.1? (adsl-0-92-152.jan.bellsouth.net [65.0.92.152]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm364983ywc.8.2010.02.10.00.24.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:24:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B726D44.8010709@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:24:36 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100205 Gentoo/2.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.0.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files? References: <20100208222047.GA6553@muc.de> <4B720C0E.7020706@gmail.com> <201002100912.47788.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201002100912.47788.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: b02b397f-a3db-4c2e-98b0-3bb6ee359e5c X-Archives-Hash: 9849779a3be2666723ffb7bce5f55728 chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: > On Wednesday 10 February 2010 03:29:50 Dale wrote: > >> Well, actually, if hal would have worked I wouldn't have cared if it >> uses xorg.conf at all. That was the point of using hal. Thing is, I >> followed the howto and it didn't work. The fact that the config files >> are in xml only became a problem after hal locked me out of my GUI and >> required a hard shutdown. >> >> > hal is a classic "Second System Effect" case > > But I thought we thrashed this to death a while ago and all agreed to never > speak of this abomination again, while we await the Third System Effect aka > DeviceKit? > > From what I read it appears to be the same guy doing both. Maybe, just maybe, some lessons were learned and it will be a lot better. I'm hoping it will be anyway. I don't care what the config files are if it works. If my hardware doesn't work, then I need to be able to edit that without a rocket science degree. I like watching things shoot into space but I don't want to design or build the darn thing. lol Dale :-) :-)