From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nem09-0006ST-3S for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:03:21 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64144E0B3C for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:03:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f211.google.com (mail-gx0-f211.google.com [209.85.217.211]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96001E090A for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 08:16:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3so1417514gxk.6 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:16:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xvwXEkiVsFlQQH14Jrqw20Gkvl8AUIa67KCZeche/OM=; b=sDW3XGRUhVbThircKFua4U7kMxvWaRpbO1lmEf61bmesbzKqsPizEHI1IYlR3/Uzn2 smuqRQTR9PvgAJC2heRFPmA+a6OYpLCSblO79xugbJE+ObVLtFaSExWa+pncbUj1WLeS wO8Et/FgxrOCfTwevfreCstbjlIA2W/7fcdLM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SCqux9EJZ6Hd6RqV6LhAig9zwmeNrqde7fI39EVlLHgETvk4lW7eCVZ9OV60QU/80D OHEQCCjiJOOvdVKdhR2CdKGGB4zL5ckgTUchXU1levnLPyjPz4QIwRPZLPbWe5aZl5W7 KiZRaLQ0cLx0kpZE9A6eJzvobH5Bw6Hy4R7Mo= Received: by 10.150.251.16 with SMTP id y16mr1034765ybh.188.1265703379204; Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:16:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.1? (adsl-0-92-152.jan.bellsouth.net [65.0.92.152]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm1763079ywg.43.2010.02.09.00.16.16 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:16:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B7119CF.5000003@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:16:15 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100205 Gentoo/2.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.0.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files? References: <20100208222047.GA6553@muc.de> <20100209021708.GA7876@waltdnes.org> In-Reply-To: <20100209021708.GA7876@waltdnes.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 961aef5b-8417-49d1-9eef-fca17966e386 X-Archives-Hash: b53e2dc12d380a2a6011493e5f85dee6 chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: > On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 10:20:47PM +0000, Alan Mackenzie wrote > > >> However, I'm now trying to get X up and running. "The X Server >> Configuration HOWTO", section 3. "Configuring Xorg" says: >> >> "Hal comes with many premade device rules, also called policies. >> These policy files are available in /usr/....../policy. Just find a >> few that suit your needs most closely and copy them to /etc/...." >> >> "For example, to get a basic working keyboard/mouse combination, you >> could copy the following files... >> /usr/.........../10-input-policy.fdi >> /usr/.........../10-x11-input.fdi" >> >> . Am I the only person that finds this semantic gibberish? Is there >> any explanation somewhere of what a "policy" aka "device rule" is? What >> is the semantic significance of a "device rule"? What does it mean, to >> "rule a device", or what sort of restrictions are being placed on this >> device? >> > My solution to simplify Gentoo... > > waltdnes@d531 ~ $ cat /etc/portage/package.mask > sys-libs/pam > sys-apps/dbus > sys-apps/hal > > You'll have to do a manual depclean (very carefully) and > revdep-rebuild, but it's worth the effort to purify your Gentoo system. > > Simpler than that, just add -hal to xorg stuff in package.use and then run emerge -uvDNa world. It will rebuild a couple things, maybe even just xorg, then everything is back to the old way. This allows hal to be their for other things where it does work but it disables it where it doesn't work. I'm not saying your way won't work but I think mine is easier. Dale :-) :-)