[gentoo-user] The current correct way to start kde 4

[gentoo-user] The current correct way to start kde 4

[Andrew Lowe]

Hi all,
	I've browsed the forums, documentation etc and can find a lot of 
options/opinions but nothing definitive. Can someone please point me at 
a document that outlines the current "correct" way to start kde 4. I 
wish to have kde as the default login manager for all users of a gentoo box.

	Any thoughts, greatly appreciated.

		Andrew

Re: [gentoo-user] The current correct way to start kde 4

[Kirill Lipatov]

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http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4-guide.xml  This is the most
appropriate guide. However, I don't see any problem with just simple
universal install:

1) eix kde-meta packages and choose the ones you would like to install and
then simply emerge

# this would pull all of the kde packages
# emerge kde-meta

# if you would like just the basic set of packages
# emerge kdebase-meta

2) in your /etc/conf.d/xdm change the displaymanager option to simply "kdm"

# nano /etc/conf.d/xdm
...
DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm"
...

That'd be it :)

2009/12/28 Andrew Lowe <agl@wht.com.au>

> Hi all,
>        I've browsed the forums, documentation etc and can find a lot of
> options/opinions but nothing definitive. Can someone please point me at a
> document that outlines the current "correct" way to start kde 4. I wish to
> have kde as the default login manager for all users of a gentoo box.
>
>        Any thoughts, greatly appreciated.
>
>                Andrew
>
>


-- 
Kirill Lipatov
klipatov@ku.edu

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Re: [gentoo-user] The current correct way to start kde 4

[Dale]

Andrew Lowe wrote:
> Hi all,
>     I've browsed the forums, documentation etc and can find a lot of 
> options/opinions but nothing definitive. Can someone please point me 
> at a document that outlines the current "correct" way to start kde 4. 
> I wish to have kde as the default login manager for all users of a 
> gentoo box.
>
>     Any thoughts, greatly appreciated.
>
>         Andrew
>
>

xdm set to use kdm to login?  That's what I use here.  You can have 
multiple uses with it too.

Is that what you are talking about?

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] The current correct way to start kde 4

[Kirill Lipatov]

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well yeah. I just think that setting the kdm as the login manager is the
easiest way to automatically start kde4 session after loging in. However,
kdm is of course not mandatory and it can do more than just start kde4

2009/12/28 Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>

> Andrew Lowe wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>    I've browsed the forums, documentation etc and can find a lot of
>> options/opinions but nothing definitive. Can someone please point me at a
>> document that outlines the current "correct" way to start kde 4. I wish to
>> have kde as the default login manager for all users of a gentoo box.
>>
>>    Any thoughts, greatly appreciated.
>>
>>        Andrew
>>
>>
>>
> xdm set to use kdm to login?  That's what I use here.  You can have
> multiple uses with it too.
>
> Is that what you are talking about?
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>



-- 
Kirill Lipatov
klipatov@ku.edu

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Re: [gentoo-user] The current correct way to start kde 4

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Montag 28 Dezember 2009, Kirill Lipatov wrote:
> well yeah. I just think that setting the kdm as the login manager is the
> easiest way to automatically start kde4 session after loging in. However,
> kdm is of course not mandatory and it can do more than just start kde4

OP wrote he wanted 'kde' as login manager. Which implies he wants kdm.

Re: [gentoo-user] The current correct way to start kde 4

[Dale]

Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Montag 28 Dezember 2009, Kirill Lipatov wrote:
>   
>> well yeah. I just think that setting the kdm as the login manager is the
>> easiest way to automatically start kde4 session after loging in. However,
>> kdm is of course not mandatory and it can do more than just start kde4
>>     
>
> OP wrote he wanted 'kde' as login manager. Which implies he wants kdm.
>
>   

That's the way I read it too.  I should also note I had a typo in mine.  
It should have read *"multiple useRs"*.  I sort of left out the r and 
made it "uses".  It does have multiple uses to but that was not what I 
meant.

I need a better keyboard or better fingers.  ;-)

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] The current correct way to start kde 4

[Andrew Lowe]

On 28/12/2009 1:03 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Montag 28 Dezember 2009, Kirill Lipatov wrote:
>> well yeah. I just think that setting the kdm as the login manager is the
>> easiest way to automatically start kde4 session after loging in. However,
>> kdm is of course not mandatory and it can do more than just start kde4
>
> OP wrote he wanted 'kde' as login manager. Which implies he wants kdm.
>

	Thank you gentlemen for your replies. Setting DISPLAYMANAGER to kdm in 
/etc/conf.d/xmd it will be then. My confusion comes from there being 
posts suggesting this method, others setting XSESSION in 
/etc/env.d/90xsession, things mentioning /etc/X11/sessions and so on. 
I've still got my training wheels on so it can be a bit confusing at times.

	Once again, thanks,

		Andrew

Re: [gentoo-user] The current correct way to start kde 4

[Mick]

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On Monday 28 December 2009 06:49:14 Andrew Lowe wrote:

> 	Thank you gentlemen for your replies. Setting DISPLAYMANAGER to kdm in
> /etc/conf.d/xmd it will be then. My confusion comes from there being
> posts suggesting this method, others setting XSESSION in
> /etc/env.d/90xsession, things mentioning /etc/X11/sessions and so on.
> I've still got my training wheels on so it can be a bit confusing at times.

The XSESSION environment variable is to be used when you want a different 
Window Manager or Display Environment to load as a default.  So you would for 
example set XSESSION=openbox, or fluxbox, or xface, etc.  Since you just want 
KDE and the kdm Display Manager knows where to find your KDE4 Display 
Environment and load it, setting up the XSESSION variable is not necessary - 
although it would cause no harm.

HTH.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] The current correct way to start kde 4

[Mike Edenfield]

On 12/28/2009 1:49 AM, Andrew Lowe wrote:
> On 28/12/2009 1:03 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>> On Montag 28 Dezember 2009, Kirill Lipatov wrote:
>>> well yeah. I just think that setting the kdm as the login manager is the
>>> easiest way to automatically start kde4 session after loging in.
>>> However,
>>> kdm is of course not mandatory and it can do more than just start kde4
>>
>> OP wrote he wanted 'kde' as login manager. Which implies he wants kdm.
>>
>
> Thank you gentlemen for your replies. Setting DISPLAYMANAGER to kdm in
> /etc/conf.d/xmd it will be then. My confusion comes from there being
> posts suggesting this method, others setting XSESSION in
> /etc/env.d/90xsession, things mentioning /etc/X11/sessions and so on.
> I've still got my training wheels on so it can be a bit confusing at times.

You are probably confusing KDE - the entire Qt-based desktop 
environment, with kdm - a Qt-based display manager and an 
(optional) component of KDE.

The first option will set up the KDE display manager to run 
when you boot, but it won't actually start "KDE".  The 
second will make KDE the default when you log in through the 
generic xdm display manager.  The last option will get KDE 
to show up in the list of known session types (for example, 
what you see in the drop-down list on gdm).

You don't *need* to use KDE's display manager to launch KDE, 
you just need to tell whatever display manager you have to 
start the kde4 session.  Similarly, just because you run kdm 
doesn't mean you have to launch KDE when you log in; you 
could launch any of the sessions in kdm's list.

But if you are only installing KDE on your machine, then 
there's really no good reason not to use kdm as well, and 
allow it to default to KDE4, so you should be all set.

--Mike