[gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

[gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

[Dale]

I'm trying to get KDE 4 where I can use it so I used the layman to get 
the latest.  Anyway, I seem to have ran into a Block, may not be related 
to KDE4 tho, that I just can't make sense of.  This is the error I get:

[blocks b     ] kde-base/kde-meta:4.3[-kdeprefix] 
("kde-base/kde-meta:4.3[-kdeprefix]" is blocking kde-base/kde-meta-9999)
[blocks B     ] app-arch/lzma-utils ("app-arch/lzma-utils" is blocking 
app-arch/xz-utils-9999)
[blocks B     ] app-arch/xz-utils ("app-arch/xz-utils" is blocking 
app-arch/lzma-utils-4.32.7)

Total: 278 packages (17 upgrades, 19 new, 242 in new slots, 248 
uninstalls), Size of downloads: 240,422 kB
Conflict: 511 blocks (2 unsatisfied)
Portage tree and overlays:
 [0] /usr/portage
 [1] /usr/local/portage/layman/kde

 * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
 * installed at the same time on the same system.

  ('ebuild', '/', 'app-arch/xz-utils-9999', 'merge') pulled in by
    app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/', 
'app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0.0.3g', 'nomerge')
    app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/', 
'sys-libs/gpm-1.20.5', 'nomerge')
    app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/', 
'dev-libs/mpfr-2.4.1_p1', 'nomerge')
    (and 10 more)

  ('ebuild', '/', 'app-arch/lzma-utils-4.32.7', 'merge') pulled in by
    app-arch/lzma-utils required by ('installed', '/', 
'app-portage/eix-0.17.0', 'nomerge')
    app-arch/lzma-utils required by ('installed', '/', 
'app-arch/libarchive-2.7.0-r1', 'nomerge')


I didn't post the whole thing but the part about the Blocks with a 
capital B.  I have unmerged both lzma-utils and xz-utils but I still get 
this error.  How can they block it when they are not installed yet?  I'm 
missing something here.  I just don't see it. 

I found a thread on the forums and did what it said but I still get 
this.  It said to unmerge xz-utils which I did.  Then I unmerged 
lzma-utils for good measure.

Someone tell me the trick to this?  Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

[Paul Hartman]

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm trying to get KDE 4 where I can use it so I used the layman to get the
> latest.  Anyway, I seem to have ran into a Block, may not be related to KDE4
> tho, that I just can't make sense of.  This is the error I get:
>
> [blocks b     ] kde-base/kde-meta:4.3[-kdeprefix]
> ("kde-base/kde-meta:4.3[-kdeprefix]" is blocking kde-base/kde-meta-9999)
> [blocks B     ] app-arch/lzma-utils ("app-arch/lzma-utils" is blocking
> app-arch/xz-utils-9999)
> [blocks B     ] app-arch/xz-utils ("app-arch/xz-utils" is blocking
> app-arch/lzma-utils-4.32.7)
>
> Total: 278 packages (17 upgrades, 19 new, 242 in new slots, 248 uninstalls),
> Size of downloads: 240,422 kB
> Conflict: 511 blocks (2 unsatisfied)
> Portage tree and overlays:
> [0] /usr/portage
> [1] /usr/local/portage/layman/kde
>
> * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
> * installed at the same time on the same system.
>
>  ('ebuild', '/', 'app-arch/xz-utils-9999', 'merge') pulled in by
>   app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/',
> 'app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0.0.3g', 'nomerge')
>   app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/', 'sys-libs/gpm-1.20.5',
> 'nomerge')
>   app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/', 'dev-libs/mpfr-2.4.1_p1',
> 'nomerge')
>   (and 10 more)
>
>  ('ebuild', '/', 'app-arch/lzma-utils-4.32.7', 'merge') pulled in by
>   app-arch/lzma-utils required by ('installed', '/',
> 'app-portage/eix-0.17.0', 'nomerge')
>   app-arch/lzma-utils required by ('installed', '/',
> 'app-arch/libarchive-2.7.0-r1', 'nomerge')
>
>
> I didn't post the whole thing but the part about the Blocks with a capital
> B.  I have unmerged both lzma-utils and xz-utils but I still get this error.
>  How can they block it when they are not installed yet?  I'm missing
> something here.  I just don't see it.
> I found a thread on the forums and did what it said but I still get this.
>  It said to unmerge xz-utils which I did.  Then I unmerged lzma-utils for
> good measure.
>
> Someone tell me the trick to this?  Thanks.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)

xz-utils replaces lzma-utils, so you can't have them both installed at
once. Maybe try unmerging and re-emerging the packages that say they
depend on lzma-utils, they've probably been updated to use xz-utils
instead by now.

Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:55:06 -0600, Dale wrote:

> I didn't post the whole thing but the part about the Blocks with a 
> capital B.  I have unmerged both lzma-utils and xz-utils but I still
> get this error.  How can they block it when they are not installed
> yet?  I'm missing something here.  I just don't see it. 

One package is pulling in lzma-utils, another wants xz-utils.

emerge --oneshot xz-utils (which replaces lzma-utils) should fix this.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Yoda of the Borg am I. Futile, resistance is. Be assimilated, you will.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

[Dale]

Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> I'm trying to get KDE 4 where I can use it so I used the layman to get the
>> latest.  Anyway, I seem to have ran into a Block, may not be related to KDE4
>> tho, that I just can't make sense of.  This is the error I get:
>>
>> [blocks b     ] kde-base/kde-meta:4.3[-kdeprefix]
>> ("kde-base/kde-meta:4.3[-kdeprefix]" is blocking kde-base/kde-meta-9999)
>> [blocks B     ] app-arch/lzma-utils ("app-arch/lzma-utils" is blocking
>> app-arch/xz-utils-9999)
>> [blocks B     ] app-arch/xz-utils ("app-arch/xz-utils" is blocking
>> app-arch/lzma-utils-4.32.7)
>>
>> Total: 278 packages (17 upgrades, 19 new, 242 in new slots, 248 uninstalls),
>> Size of downloads: 240,422 kB
>> Conflict: 511 blocks (2 unsatisfied)
>> Portage tree and overlays:
>> [0] /usr/portage
>> [1] /usr/local/portage/layman/kde
>>
>> * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
>> * installed at the same time on the same system.
>>
>>  ('ebuild', '/', 'app-arch/xz-utils-9999', 'merge') pulled in by
>>   app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/',
>> 'app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0.0.3g', 'nomerge')
>>   app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/', 'sys-libs/gpm-1.20.5',
>> 'nomerge')
>>   app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/', 'dev-libs/mpfr-2.4.1_p1',
>> 'nomerge')
>>   (and 10 more)
>>
>>  ('ebuild', '/', 'app-arch/lzma-utils-4.32.7', 'merge') pulled in by
>>   app-arch/lzma-utils required by ('installed', '/',
>> 'app-portage/eix-0.17.0', 'nomerge')
>>   app-arch/lzma-utils required by ('installed', '/',
>> 'app-arch/libarchive-2.7.0-r1', 'nomerge')
>>
>>
>> I didn't post the whole thing but the part about the Blocks with a capital
>> B.  I have unmerged both lzma-utils and xz-utils but I still get this error.
>>  How can they block it when they are not installed yet?  I'm missing
>> something here.  I just don't see it.
>> I found a thread on the forums and did what it said but I still get this.
>>  It said to unmerge xz-utils which I did.  Then I unmerged lzma-utils for
>> good measure.
>>
>> Someone tell me the trick to this?  Thanks.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>>     
>
> xz-utils replaces lzma-utils, so you can't have them both installed at
> once. Maybe try unmerging and re-emerging the packages that say they
> depend on lzma-utils, they've probably been updated to use xz-utils
> instead by now.
>
>   

I think I tried that.  I ran this command with both blockers unmerged:

emerge -1v rpm2targz gpm mpfr eix libarchive

Thing is, it pulled both the blockers back in again.  I also tried 
removing those two blockers and just doing the HUGE update, it still 
gripes about the block.

I synced last night.  Could it be that I need to sync again?  Maybe 
something was in the process of changing when I synced?

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:55:06 -0600, Dale wrote:
>
>   
>> I didn't post the whole thing but the part about the Blocks with a 
>> capital B.  I have unmerged both lzma-utils and xz-utils but I still
>> get this error.  How can they block it when they are not installed
>> yet?  I'm missing something here.  I just don't see it. 
>>     
>
> One package is pulling in lzma-utils, another wants xz-utils.
>
> emerge --oneshot xz-utils (which replaces lzma-utils) should fix this.
>   

I have tried a few things but just to make sure, I tried this just to be 
sure.  I unmerged both blockers and emerged xz-utils again, same block 
as before.

Ideas?

Dale

:-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Donnerstag 17 Dezember 2009 19:32:54 schrieb Dale:
> I have tried a few things but just to make sure, I tried this just to be 
> sure.  I unmerged both blockers and emerged xz-utils again, same block 
> as before.
> 
> Ideas?

The solution is in the ebuilds (as always): eix 0.17.0 still depends on lzma-
utils, while 0.17.1 has been switched to xz-utils. The same is true for 
libarchive, you need a later version.

HTH...

	Dirk

Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

[Daniel Pielmeier]

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Dale schrieb am 17.12.2009 16:55:
> 
> [blocks b     ] kde-base/kde-meta:4.3[-kdeprefix]
> ("kde-base/kde-meta:4.3[-kdeprefix]" is blocking kde-base/kde-meta-9999)
> [blocks B     ] app-arch/lzma-utils ("app-arch/lzma-utils" is blocking
> app-arch/xz-utils-9999)
> [blocks B     ] app-arch/xz-utils ("app-arch/xz-utils" is blocking
> app-arch/lzma-utils-4.32.7)
> 
> Total: 278 packages (17 upgrades, 19 new, 242 in new slots, 248
> uninstalls), Size of downloads: 240,422 kB
> Conflict: 511 blocks (2 unsatisfied)
> Portage tree and overlays:
> [0] /usr/portage
> [1] /usr/local/portage/layman/kde
> 
> * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
> * installed at the same time on the same system.
> 
>  ('ebuild', '/', 'app-arch/xz-utils-9999', 'merge') pulled in by
>    app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/',
> 'app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0.0.3g', 'nomerge')
>    app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/',
> 'sys-libs/gpm-1.20.5', 'nomerge')
>    app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/',
> 'dev-libs/mpfr-2.4.1_p1', 'nomerge')
>    (and 10 more)
> 
>  ('ebuild', '/', 'app-arch/lzma-utils-4.32.7', 'merge') pulled in by
>    app-arch/lzma-utils required by ('installed', '/',
> 'app-portage/eix-0.17.0', 'nomerge')
>    app-arch/lzma-utils required by ('installed', '/',
> 'app-arch/libarchive-2.7.0-r1', 'nomerge')
> 

You need at least eix-0.17.1 and libarchive-2.7.1. Older versions depend
on lzma-utils instead of xz-utils, thus the blocker.

-- 
Daniel Pielmeier


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Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

[Dale]

Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
> Dale schrieb am 17.12.2009 16:55:
>   
>> [blocks b     ] kde-base/kde-meta:4.3[-kdeprefix]
>> ("kde-base/kde-meta:4.3[-kdeprefix]" is blocking kde-base/kde-meta-9999)
>> [blocks B     ] app-arch/lzma-utils ("app-arch/lzma-utils" is blocking
>> app-arch/xz-utils-9999)
>> [blocks B     ] app-arch/xz-utils ("app-arch/xz-utils" is blocking
>> app-arch/lzma-utils-4.32.7)
>>
>> Total: 278 packages (17 upgrades, 19 new, 242 in new slots, 248
>> uninstalls), Size of downloads: 240,422 kB
>> Conflict: 511 blocks (2 unsatisfied)
>> Portage tree and overlays:
>> [0] /usr/portage
>> [1] /usr/local/portage/layman/kde
>>
>> * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
>> * installed at the same time on the same system.
>>
>>  ('ebuild', '/', 'app-arch/xz-utils-9999', 'merge') pulled in by
>>    app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/',
>> 'app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0.0.3g', 'nomerge')
>>    app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/',
>> 'sys-libs/gpm-1.20.5', 'nomerge')
>>    app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/',
>> 'dev-libs/mpfr-2.4.1_p1', 'nomerge')
>>    (and 10 more)
>>
>>  ('ebuild', '/', 'app-arch/lzma-utils-4.32.7', 'merge') pulled in by
>>    app-arch/lzma-utils required by ('installed', '/',
>> 'app-portage/eix-0.17.0', 'nomerge')
>>    app-arch/lzma-utils required by ('installed', '/',
>> 'app-arch/libarchive-2.7.0-r1', 'nomerge')
>>
>>     
>
> You need at least eix-0.17.1 and libarchive-2.7.1. Older versions depend
> on lzma-utils instead of xz-utils, thus the blocker.
>   

You are both right.  I tried installing a later version on the blockers 
but not the packages that depended on them.  So, I added the following 
to my package.keyword and package.unmask files:

=app-portage/eix-0.18.3
=app-arch/libarchive-2.7.1

Portage is now happy.  Every time I think I have figured out portage and 
these blocker messages, I get thrown a curve ball.  lol 

Thanks much for catching that curve ball.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:12:19 -0600, Dale wrote:

> You are both right.  I tried installing a later version on the blockers 
> but not the packages that depended on them.  So, I added the following 
> to my package.keyword and package.unmask files:
> 
> =app-portage/eix-0.18.3
> =app-arch/libarchive-2.7.1
> 
> Portage is now happy.  Every time I think I have figured out portage
> and these blocker messages, I get thrown a curve ball. lol 

Ah, the fun of running a mixed arch/~arch system :)

BTW ~ is usually better than = in this situation.


-- 
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As of next week, passwords will be entered in Morse code.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

[Helmut Jarausch]

On 17 Dec, Dale wrote:
> I'm trying to get KDE 4 where I can use it so I used the layman to get 
> the latest.  Anyway, I seem to have ran into a Block, may not be related 
> to KDE4 tho, that I just can't make sense of.  This is the error I get:
> 
> [blocks b     ] kde-base/kde-meta:4.3[-kdeprefix] 
> ("kde-base/kde-meta:4.3[-kdeprefix]" is blocking kde-base/kde-meta-9999)
> [blocks B     ] app-arch/lzma-utils ("app-arch/lzma-utils" is blocking 
> app-arch/xz-utils-9999)
> [blocks B     ] app-arch/xz-utils ("app-arch/xz-utils" is blocking 
> app-arch/lzma-utils-4.32.7)
> 
> Total: 278 packages (17 upgrades, 19 new, 242 in new slots, 248 
> uninstalls), Size of downloads: 240,422 kB
> Conflict: 511 blocks (2 unsatisfied)
> Portage tree and overlays:
>  [0] /usr/portage
>  [1] /usr/local/portage/layman/kde
> 
>  * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
>  * installed at the same time on the same system.
> 
>   ('ebuild', '/', 'app-arch/xz-utils-9999', 'merge') pulled in by
>     app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/', 
> 'app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0.0.3g', 'nomerge')
>     app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/', 
> 'sys-libs/gpm-1.20.5', 'nomerge')
>     app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/', 
> 'dev-libs/mpfr-2.4.1_p1', 'nomerge')
>     (and 10 more)
> 
>   ('ebuild', '/', 'app-arch/lzma-utils-4.32.7', 'merge') pulled in by
>     app-arch/lzma-utils required by ('installed', '/', 
> 'app-portage/eix-0.17.0', 'nomerge')
>     app-arch/lzma-utils required by ('installed', '/', 
> 'app-arch/libarchive-2.7.0-r1', 'nomerge')
> 
> 
> I didn't post the whole thing but the part about the Blocks with a 
> capital B.  I have unmerged both lzma-utils and xz-utils but I still get 
> this error.  How can they block it when they are not installed yet?  I'm 
> missing something here.  I just don't see it. 
> 
> I found a thread on the forums and did what it said but I still get 
> this.  It said to unmerge xz-utils which I did.  Then I unmerged 
> lzma-utils for good measure.
> 
> Someone tell me the trick to this?  Thanks.
> 
> Dale

I had a similar problem since I wanted to use the -J option of tar
(telling it to use the xz compressor)
Someone replied to my bug report that once app-arch/xz-utils becomes
stable it will replace lzma-utils. But I needed both now.
So, I installed app-arch/xz-utils outside of portage with the
prefix /usr/local. Then I told portage about it by

echo "app-arch/xz-utils-9999" > /etc/portage/profile/package.provided

That works.

Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany

Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

[Paul Hartman]

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 3:12 AM, Helmut Jarausch
<jarausch@igpm.rwth-aachen.de> wrote:
> I had a similar problem since I wanted to use the -J option of tar
> (telling it to use the xz compressor)

There's also a --use-compress-prog switch for tar so you can make it
use any program you like. (unless that's a new option too?)

Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:12:19 -0600, Dale wrote:
>
>   
>> You are both right.  I tried installing a later version on the blockers 
>> but not the packages that depended on them.  So, I added the following 
>> to my package.keyword and package.unmask files:
>>
>> =app-portage/eix-0.18.3
>> =app-arch/libarchive-2.7.1
>>
>> Portage is now happy.  Every time I think I have figured out portage
>> and these blocker messages, I get thrown a curve ball. lol 
>>     
>
> Ah, the fun of running a mixed arch/~arch system :)
>
> BTW ~ is usually better than = in this situation.
>
>   

Well, this ain't working as well as I would like.  I'm getting a lot of 
failures.  Something like this:

 * subversion check out start -->
 *      repository: svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdesdk
svn: Network connection closed unexpectedly
 * ERROR: kde-base/kate-9999 failed:
 *   subversion: can't fetch to 
/usr/portage/distfiles/svn-src/kdesdk/kdesdk from 
svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdesdk.


I may just go back to a more stable setup.  My network is working fine 
for everything else.  It's not just this one package, it is several of them.

Oh well.  I just wish they had supported KDE 3 longer cause KDE 4 is 
just not ready for what I do.  I get a screen full of crap about KDE 3 
being masked when updating too.  Sort of bugs me.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

[Dale]

Well, this ain't working as well as I would like.  I'm getting a lot of
failures.  Something like this:

* subversion check out start -->
*      repository: svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdesdk
svn: Network connection closed unexpectedly
* ERROR: kde-base/kate-9999 failed:
*   subversion: can't fetch to
/usr/portage/distfiles/svn-src/kdesdk/kdesdk from
svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdesdk.


I may just go back to a more stable setup.  My network is working fine
for everything else.  It's not just this one package, it is several of them.

Oh well.  I just wish they had supported KDE 3 longer cause KDE 4 is
just not ready for what I do.  I get a screen full of crap about KDE 3
being masked when updating too.  Sort of bugs me.

Dale

:-)  :-)


Just in case someone is searching and runs up on this, I figured out 
where the problem was.  It helps if /usr/portage is not 100% full.  So, 
if you see that error, clean out some cruft in /usr/portage and carry on.

Then again, maybe not.  It made it further but still failed with a 
completely different error tho.  This time with some space left.  No 
clue on the problem now.  Maybe time for a new thread?

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:44:41 -0600, Dale wrote:

How did this end up in the lzma/xz thread?

> Well, this ain't working as well as I would like.  I'm getting a lot of 
> failures.  Something like this:
> 
>  * subversion check out start -->
>  *      repository: svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdesdk
> svn: Network connection closed unexpectedly
>  * ERROR: kde-base/kate-9999 failed:
>  *   subversion: can't fetch to 
> /usr/portage/distfiles/svn-src/kdesdk/kdesdk from 
> svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdesdk.

Why are you trying to install the svn version?

> I may just go back to a more stable setup.

Like the standard KDE 4 in portage?

> Oh well.  I just wish they had supported KDE 3 longer cause KDE 4 is 
> just not ready for what I do.  I get a screen full of crap about KDE 3 
> being masked when updating too.  Sort of bugs me.

Add the kde-sunset overlay and all that will disappear. KDE3 still works
on Gentoo, it's just not supported in portage any more.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

"When you play a Microsoft CD backwards you can hear demonic Voices...
that's nothing - when you play it forward it installs Windows"

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Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:44:41 -0600, Dale wrote:
>
> How did this end up in the lzma/xz thread?
>
>   
>> Well, this ain't working as well as I would like.  I'm getting a lot of 
>> failures.  Something like this:
>>
>>  * subversion check out start -->
>>  *      repository: svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdesdk
>> svn: Network connection closed unexpectedly
>>  * ERROR: kde-base/kate-9999 failed:
>>  *   subversion: can't fetch to 
>> /usr/portage/distfiles/svn-src/kdesdk/kdesdk from 
>> svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdesdk.
>>     
>
> Why are you trying to install the svn version?
>   

Well, I was hoping I could get a newer version of KDE 4 that would 
actually DO something.  lol 

>   
>> I may just go back to a more stable setup.
>>     
>
> Like the standard KDE 4 in portage?
>   

Which doesn't do what I need for it to be usable? 

>   
>> Oh well.  I just wish they had supported KDE 3 longer cause KDE 4 is 
>> just not ready for what I do.  I get a screen full of crap about KDE 3 
>> being masked when updating too.  Sort of bugs me.
>>     
>
> Add the kde-sunset overlay and all that will disappear. KDE3 still works
> on Gentoo, it's just not supported in portage any more.
>   

I already have kde-sunset and I still get those messages.  I don't know 
if it is because it is leaving portage or if it is even being removed 
from kde-sunset.  I just know I get them and it increases each time I sync.

I know this, KDE has left a really bad taste in my mouth with how they 
handled this release.  They should have supported KDE 3 until KDE-4.5, 
or at least KDE 4.4 was out and stable.  Right now, I can't go a day in 
KDE 4.  I'm always running into something that doesn't "work" yet.

This isn't as bad as hal but it's dang close.

Dale

:-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:35:20 -0600, Dale wrote:

> >> I may just go back to a more stable setup.
> >>       
> >
> > Like the standard KDE 4 in portage?
> >     
> 
> Which doesn't do what I need for it to be usable? 

Like? I only switched to 4 recently, but I'm quite happy with it in the
main.

> >> Oh well.  I just wish they had supported KDE 3 longer cause KDE 4 is 
> >> just not ready for what I do.  I get a screen full of crap about KDE
> >> 3 being masked when updating too.  Sort of bugs me.
> >>       
> >
> > Add the kde-sunset overlay and all that will disappear. KDE3 still
> > works on Gentoo, it's just not supported in portage any more.
> >     
> 
> I already have kde-sunset and I still get those messages.  I don't know 
> if it is because it is leaving portage or if it is even being removed 
> from kde-sunset.  I just know I get them and it increases each time I
> sync.

You need to add stuff to package.unmask. AFAIR the overlay contains a
file that you can copy/symlink there. The messages should go away in due
course anyway, once KDE3 is actually removed from portage rather than
being there but masked.

> I know this, KDE has left a really bad taste in my mouth with how they 
> handled this release.  They should have supported KDE 3 until KDE-4.5, 
> or at least KDE 4.4 was out and stable.  Right now, I can't go a day in 
> KDE 4.  I'm always running into something that doesn't "work" yet.

I used to think that, but soon realised it does work, just slightly
differently. There are still some really annoying "features" though. But
if the Gentoo KDE team don't want to support it, that's there choice. If
you don't like it, you can always ask for your money back ;-)


-- 
Neil Bothwick

"This project is so important, we can't let things that are more
important interfere with it."

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Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:35:20 -0600, Dale wrote:
>
>   
>>>> I may just go back to a more stable setup.
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> Like the standard KDE 4 in portage?
>>>     
>>>       
>> Which doesn't do what I need for it to be usable? 
>>     
>
> Like? I only switched to 4 recently, but I'm quite happy with it in the
> main.
>   

Already been discussed here and on the KDE list as well. 

>   
>>>> Oh well.  I just wish they had supported KDE 3 longer cause KDE 4 is 
>>>> just not ready for what I do.  I get a screen full of crap about KDE
>>>> 3 being masked when updating too.  Sort of bugs me.
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> Add the kde-sunset overlay and all that will disappear. KDE3 still
>>> works on Gentoo, it's just not supported in portage any more.
>>>     
>>>       
>> I already have kde-sunset and I still get those messages.  I don't know 
>> if it is because it is leaving portage or if it is even being removed 
>> from kde-sunset.  I just know I get them and it increases each time I
>> sync.
>>     
>
> You need to add stuff to package.unmask. AFAIR the overlay contains a
> file that you can copy/symlink there. The messages should go away in due
> course anyway, once KDE3 is actually removed from portage rather than
> being there but masked.
>
>   
>> I know this, KDE has left a really bad taste in my mouth with how they 
>> handled this release.  They should have supported KDE 3 until KDE-4.5, 
>> or at least KDE 4.4 was out and stable.  Right now, I can't go a day in 
>> KDE 4.  I'm always running into something that doesn't "work" yet.
>>     
>
> I used to think that, but soon realised it does work, just slightly
> differently. There are still some really annoying "features" though. But
> if the Gentoo KDE team don't want to support it, that's there choice. If
> you don't like it, you can always ask for your money back ;-)
>
>   

I do understand that it works differently.  I got that part.  As 
mentioned above, I went through the issues on the KDE mailing list and 
the things I need are not functional yet.  They will be later on but 
they are not right now.  They do however work in KDE 3.  That's why I am 
having to keep it around.

Dale

:-)  :-)