From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NHnmi-0004P6-TG for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:18:34 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 578CCE0930; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 00:17:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f224.google.com (mail-gx0-f224.google.com [209.85.217.224]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C4CEE0930 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 00:17:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so4758932gxk.6 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:17:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Q7XQ5QVgW1O4WsBrEriRxFu4BaPlmueVz/0/u7d6tAs=; b=vpIVc8kSltBFiJIxPioNNbqAKc05xmojbWy5olAVFrfbHdx5YyL3BcMxXicl0XH2u/ BL4IUIImDO7SJFjwctFzP5d8XCKbRs7pd+D6lYwwqaBUoJtXeqop7O6PWavqu+KBQIlL zzpqM2UCMtZrr2Xmjdfa/VbzmBBclR8n4/XXo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hFlaM9f4F1P2TRRMyRbVbQ55jt2CRvDwJDk4t+ldB6MpSw2/G+Sw/XxxaD7jOcN1py Y+uhe2vlygcsCFAagrzGIz09unIPTYJ+3T2hHwzvLujJvOMMvQnO8d17xj+DzzkcH8me 2lbRZ1fGXq2OiwgfEchwgo0v9xvNH/I593y/c= Received: by 10.150.37.22 with SMTP id k22mr12058239ybk.196.1260231474864; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:17:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.1? (adsl-240-57-115.jan.bellsouth.net [74.240.57.115]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 13sm3139785gxk.9.2009.12.07.16.17.52 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:17:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B1D9B2F.7050602@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:17:51 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20091201 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug References: <20091207110157.484d5f52@digimed.co.uk> <20091207224618.GA4774@ca.inter.net> <200912080104.32371.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200912080104.32371.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 6e264ceb-6b87-4068-995b-8f9e65b95b47 X-Archives-Hash: 03ae2a383a3c3d0ecc348556d88f418d Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 08 December 2009 00:46:18 Philip Webb wrote: > >> 091207 Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 14:49:44 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: >>> >>>> I know that from my home-made list of pkgs which I have installed, >>>> where they are marked with 'W' & system pkgs with 'S'. >>>> Yes, I do have to keep it upto-date as I do emerges. >>>> One of the major deficiencies of Gentoo is >>>> that it doesn't provide such a file automatically. >>>> >>> emerge -p @system >>> emerge -p @world >>> >> root:501 ~> emerge -p @system >> !!! '@system' is not a valid package atom. >> !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details. >> root:502 ~> emerge -p @world >> !!! '@world' is not a valid package atom. >> !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details. >> >> 'man 5 ebuild' has nothing relevant to '@' 'system' 'world' '-p'. >> I'm using the latest stable Portage-2.1.6.3 . >> > > Your version of portage does not support sets. > > >> Any further advice ? >> >> Let me emphasise yet again: the way I do things has been successful >> on 2 machines for more than 6 years; it's others who have problems >> doing it their way & regularly seek advice on this list as a result. >> > > Let me correct you there: > > The experienced old hands here almost uniformly do not have such problems. > It's the n00bs who don't grok portage just yet, or don't know to look inside > ebuilds when the ebuild goes wonky, who have such problems. The classic cause > of problems is mixing stable and testing > > OP, And I would like to mention that portage has changed a LOT in the last six years. The way you do things apparently has not. That alone could lead to problems. As software changes, we have to change the way we do things in order to react to those changes. If we don't, then we could run into problems. I first installed Gentoo from a 1.4 CD so I been around about the same amount of time you have. Portage has changed a whole lot since then. The way I do things has changed as well. I don't think revdep-rebuild even existed back then. I use it regularly now. Portage has a lot of options now that it didn't have back then. They are there because they are needed and useful in certain situations. Using Gentoo basically requires you to stay up to date. Getting behind can come back to bite you. That can be said about a lot of situations with Gentoo, both in updating the OS and updating ourselves as well. Dale :-) :-)