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From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Block root user from login on xorg GUI
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:44:30 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AFFB15E.8030805@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28BB57B2-61EB-4A5C-97CF-6F6C0D582FE3@stellar.eclipse.co.uk>

Stroller wrote:
>
> On 14 Nov 2009, at 20:46, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>> ...
>>> You are right of course, but in this particular case the guy who pays
>>> wants  to have root access.
>>
>> And you agreed to work like that?
>>
>> So when he fucks things up good royal and proper, will he gladly 
>> accept his
>> shafting and pay you more to undo it? Or will he do the usual 
>> customer stunt
>> and blame you?
>
> My typical experience is that the customer will take it completely on 
> the chin and pay me to fix the problems. That doesn't make foul-ups 
> due to such unnecessary meddling any less frustrating, though.
>
>> I only work under one of two conditions:
>>
>> I am root and the customer is not.
>> The customer is root and I am not.
>
> This is clearly the "right" way to operate, however it can be 
> extremely difficult to walk away from your largest-paying contract, 
> just because the owner sees this particular issue differently.
>
> One has to hope, really, that the client only wants the root password 
> as insurance in case you get run over by a bus, and won't use it to 
> arbitrarily mess about on the system.
>
> Stroller.
>
>
>

I would do one thing and take it as often as possible, a large CYA 
pill.  I had this situation with a friend once a few years ago, trust 
me, it's a lot easier to blame someone else than yourself.  System logs 
saved me since they pointed to him instead of me. 

That pill should contain logs, notes and anything else that can be used 
to protect yourself.  When a scapegoat is needed, you're it.  That said, 
I sort of think you see this already. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 




  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-15  8:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-12 20:01 [gentoo-user] Block root user from login on xorg GUI Mick
2009-11-12 20:39 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2009-11-12 20:56   ` Mick
2009-11-12 21:08     ` Dirk Heinrichs
2009-11-12 21:34 ` Paul Hartman
2009-11-12 21:46   ` Mick
2009-11-12 21:56     ` Alan McKinnon
2009-11-12 22:15       ` Mick
2009-11-13 15:39     ` Paul Hartman
2009-11-12 22:09 ` Alan McKinnon
2009-11-12 22:18   ` Mick
2009-11-12 23:08     ` Iain Buchanan
2009-11-13  2:45       ` Zeerak Waseem
2009-11-14  0:24       ` Mick
2009-11-14  7:01         ` Joshua Murphy
2009-11-14  7:07           ` Joshua Murphy
2009-11-14 19:32           ` Mick
2009-11-14 20:46             ` Alan McKinnon
2009-11-15  5:15               ` Stroller
2009-11-15  7:44                 ` Dale [this message]
2009-11-15  8:26                 ` Alan McKinnon
2009-11-15 12:47                   ` Stroller
2009-11-15 15:11                     ` Alan McKinnon
2009-11-15  8:52                 ` Neil Bothwick
2009-11-15 10:52                   ` Alan McKinnon
2009-11-15 13:37                     ` Neil Bothwick
2009-11-14  9:21 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2009-11-14 10:12   ` Dirk Heinrichs
2009-11-14 15:13     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-11-14 19:30       ` Alan McKinnon
2009-11-14 20:46       ` Dirk Heinrichs
2009-11-14 22:50         ` Alan McKinnon
2009-11-15  9:22           ` Dirk Heinrichs
2009-11-15 14:40             ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-11-15 16:12               ` Alan McKinnon

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