From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N3gdW-0005M4-Ff for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:50:42 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D7FE0E09CE; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:50:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from defout.telus.net (defout.telus.net [204.209.205.55]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2DEE09CE for ; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:50:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edmwaa21.telusplanet.net ([173.183.160.198]) by priv-edmwes33.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091030015040.HFVO25474.priv-edmwes33.telusplanet.net@edmwaa21.telusplanet.net> for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:50:40 -0600 Received: from gamer.phs.net (d173-183-160-198.abhsia.telus.net [173.183.160.198]) by edmwaa21.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 46D53274352EC179 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:50:39 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4AEA4672.5050302@makovey.net> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:50:42 -0600 From: Dmitry Makovey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091006) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4+i945+kernel+external display = ? References: <4AE928C2.3030204@makovey.net> <1256796332.13762.42.camel@rattus> In-Reply-To: <1256796332.13762.42.camel@rattus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 3d098eb6-4a23-447c-beb1-a38eb40ee812 X-Archives-Hash: 731e28754471f79e890a42f8d7d59152 William Kenworthy wrote: > http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Intel_GMA > ah, the magic word: GMA :) Thanks for the reference I have started applying advises from there so we'll see what will I end up with. > Welcome to our world of pain :( > it is quite surprising considering that Intel has opensource drivers etc. So no "weirdness" should arise as developers have the specs etc. (at least that was my understanding so far). > I made some headway using "-hal" for xorg-server in USE, and IgnoreEDID > and setting DDC to false in xorg.conf but the latest updates ignore > those and the UXA settings in the link above (check the xorg log for > other dirty secrets) > Xorg.0.log looks much cleaner now that I got drm issues out of the way... > I am using 2.6.31-r3 (with kernel mode setting by default for the i915 - > doesnt work well without it) and xorg-server 1.6.5. > which intel driver do you use? Mine's 2.8.1 and I wonder if bumping to 2.9.1 that is in testing wouldn't yield better results. > Its a laptop and there is no easy solution as the external screens > (various) that I use with it often have only 1024x768 in common with its > own LCD and stupid xorg wont let me overide it without consequences > elsewhere :( > > xorg sucks badly at the moment and there is no viable alternative to > switch to - and the saddest thing is the chipset has worked fine in the > past (sadly becoming distant past for me) ... > I too found "degradation" quite surprising since things were working pretty well up until now. I somewhat regret KDE4 switch because of all of this, however I definitely needed some of the features KDE4 apps had to offer. Traded off some of the features dear to my heart: multi-key combinations popping prompt menu, titlebar set correctly in Konsole without affecting tab name, and some others. Filed with bugs.kde.org... let's see what happens next. According to some KDE4 jsut highlighted problems in underlying Xorg, so hopefully now with all of that out in the open things will get fixed.