From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MqzVR-00021M-Lq for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:21:53 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 45951E0928; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:21:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.246]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28BB4E0928 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:21:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d40so1789963and.1 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:21:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=p+HmMorRG6NZpOWbkzL/oQJJl4ZlhPoTkc3rYsNqaS8=; b=darQ+naLxwHFh+lbU/DBO5d/zaCoxIsV68orwHwAzUjOLLeqVAiJdQGQ9SqQnLlQqK RbNSeiEFSoPPVBaLm9iWS9DnnVma5W1BqVKAURK88ukQHDn1UC/CRSA4DT/688GKnaxd OMNdXlfgeP09nrGC436RvV8fAfx+eKG2i6srQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EyDtjjKNN54F8xpjn+8RdpIgKRRL7pH3QCYVwmMlEBrFHxqgDODm8AG4iHeks++1ul kEgZvxOGgA1jvuFetaO2QFWk8PahcHMdja8rMGo3uS4kYkdRwrGPniCaGCr6xZHOp5Qn yMFlhb3isvYoQbD9bGC4+1cBzeAiCk9tTZDe8= Received: by 10.101.170.11 with SMTP id x11mr4421390ano.103.1253841711830; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.1? (adsl-147-230-180.jan.bellsouth.net [72.147.230.180]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d24sm1271825and.15.2009.09.24.18.21.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ABC1B2C.6080703@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:21:48 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090905 SeaMonkey/1.1.17 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG. References: <4ABAE27E.8070400@gmail.com> <4ABAFFCF.1060204@badapple.net> <4ABBBD7A.1050004@gmail.com> <58965d8a0909241202j21b66a0co6f488245700daf99@mail.gmail.com> <4ABBC4FA.207@gmail.com> <58965d8a0909241221l406b5d62i442ee680efd7caa7@mail.gmail.com> <4ABBC893.9020701@gmail.com> <4ABC15EB.50105@gmail.com> <58965d8a0909241809r50fde333l6cbe81ab2a30b639@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <58965d8a0909241809r50fde333l6cbe81ab2a30b639@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 7752c466-c95e-4f78-a11b-aa35fba8e85a X-Archives-Hash: 3d3615f0a338150ef70017a377d76afc Paul Hartman wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Dale wrote: > >> >> One thing I have noticed about hard drives in my experience. When you >> plug that puppy in and power it up, let it run for a good long while. >> Overnight is good, a few days is even better, a week or more is even >> better still from the mechanical point of view. I remember this from >> when I rebuilt my Moms old motor in her car years ago. It said in the >> book and from several mechanics, once you crank it, run it for at least >> 30 minutes and at different rpms. The longer the better. It should get >> to its normal temperature before even thinking about cutting it off. Do >> NOT cut the engine off unless it is really serious. The first few >> minutes that a motor runs is crucial. If you start it and just run it a >> couple minutes, it won't ever be the same. I was also told that driving >> it is really good. >> >> I also remember this from way back when I was working on puters. I got >> a new job when winder 3.1 came out. Anyway. If a electronic device can >> survive the first couple to six months of usage, they usually last a >> while from the electronic point of view. That is short of spilling your >> beer in it or it getting hit by lightening or something like that. I >> have two 80Gb drives right now. One is a Maxtor and the other is a >> Western Digital. I bet there is a few people on this list that hate >> each one because they had one that failed. I haven't had any trouble >> with mine at all. They all fail eventually tho. I just hope one of >> mine fails when there is nothing important on it is all. ;-) >> >> Still comparing all the options. I got to start looking for a good SATA >> drive now. Just when I had a decent IDE drive all picked out too. LOL >> > > When you look at hard drive reviews, they tend to be either 5 stars > ("Perfect! Never a problem after 10 years!") or 0 stars ("Horrible, > died after 2 minutes! I got 2 more and they did the same thing!" etc). > I don't think there are a lot of ways for a hard drive to go bad > without it being catastrophic. Maybe bad sectors... but I consider > that catastrophic because they always seem to spread like cancer. If > there is one bad sector on a drive, I simply can't trust it. > > That being said, I've had lots of hard drives from many brands and the > best combinations of price/speed/reliability I've had is Samsung. I'm > using 6 of them right now and after 2+ years of 24/7 usage none has > died yet. I'm sure someone here will have a horror story about a > Samsung drive to add to this thread. :) > > > I saw where the drive hours was displayed a long time ago. I thought it was hdparm that displayed that but I can't find it in the man page and -I doesn't seem to show that. Can someone tell me if there is a way to get how many hours a drive has been running? I know I saw this before but no clue where it was. Dale :-) :-)