From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mqu1f-00029B-Oo for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:30:47 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0366BE0968; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:29:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f202.google.com (mail-yw0-f202.google.com [209.85.211.202]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC25E0968 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh40 with SMTP id 40so2138132ywh.32 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:29:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uY8fzAVpFODDcOfuf0CNXFpGLOVP6TsmGN6OiqmDysU=; b=Xvr0cfdBUKlYQJvcLADaJLlWGex5bthFX1cekV8tpGZH6HkTi5HevEHYbbmoHxzGZ/ 05rqVykN78j1mi8dxoeJ4sj21qdI55Amk/pXpDYxxdhj976AX4fcQwlfVESlQ4bW6GOc X5xi+5O9JUtW/k9ukUCnWeaT3eMi3RV8vm1H4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xEiGzXLJDaNC94lY0dfE1B3amud4PvB9u48OMPnVoZ0VZLIsK2sG3PYk6l/hoJEiOv /lomzmX8LUsY7oKh+jLZqDaFHwfW10ZA/EaTpKIJ+0iRV4eqaNzGhWxpm7dNjz09MxoN IYoZ9Ugf3XJ3G9a4IO1ZV2aa8OFY7vOmV3nf4= Received: by 10.150.59.12 with SMTP id h12mr628421yba.39.1253820574590; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.1? (adsl-147-230-180.jan.bellsouth.net [72.147.230.180]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16sm199128gxk.3.2009.09.24.12.29.32 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ABBC89B.4050400@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:29:31 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090905 SeaMonkey/1.1.17 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG. References: <4ABAE27E.8070400@gmail.com> <4ABAFFCF.1060204@badapple.net> <4ABBBD7A.1050004@gmail.com> <4ABBC2A0.6080200@badapple.net> In-Reply-To: <4ABBC2A0.6080200@badapple.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: a4442144-854f-4527-8452-21432d492d85 X-Archives-Hash: 3492994c1aa8f65e4f81674a5f278e8c kashani wrote: > Dale wrote: >> kashani wrote: >>> Dale wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me. LOL I been >>>> trying to >>>> find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty >>>> fast. It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables. I >>>> don't >>>> have SATA on this rig. >>>> >>>> I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they >>>> are a >>>> little hard to find nowadays. In matter of importance: size, price, >>>> speed. Newegg is great but will consider others as well. >>>> >>>> Thanks for any pointers. Open to ideas. >>> SATA PCI card should be < $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive. >>> >>> kashani >>> >> I been looking at these cards on newegg. I haven't had a SATA drive >> before and confess I don't know a lot about them. They are faster and >> have little bitty cables. I'm looking at this one: >> >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124003 >> >> I notice that it has two internal and two external connectors. Can I >> assume that the "eSATA" means external or is that something else? >> >> Also while I have the link and you are most likely looking at it, is >> this a good fast card? It appears to be a pretty recent revision since >> it also says SATA II. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESATA > esata is different sort of connection, but a number of new > external drives are starting to support it. > > This looks to be your best choice. > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815102102&cm_re=pci_sata_II-_-15-102-102-_-Product > > > I assume that any motherboard that does not support SATA also does not > support PCI-E or PCI-X, but you should make sure that you have a free > slot and verify that slot type before buying something. > > kashani > > OK. Lets see if my muddy water has cleared up any. I can use the same drives on either a "SATA" or a "eSATA" its just that the cable is different? The "eSATA" cable is shielded where the internal one is not. No difference in speed or anything, just the cable? Correct? That's how I read the link. Your link to newegg is a good one. It only has two ports which may work if I don't have to buy any more drives before my new build. It is cheaper too. Jeez, they fill up fast on DSL. LOL Thanks. Dale :-) :-)