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(r164h171.dixie-net.com [64.89.164.171]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 1sm1143422agb.48.2009.06.23.18.48.01 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A41858D.4040905@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:46:53 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090529 SeaMonkey/1.1.16 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx References: <5bdc1c8b0906231620i2aa5204u28f6e181183fcc96@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0906231640o792ce292t827bf0935177c0e0@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0906231653p550bc483nfd2cda8bad52b4c3@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0906231706s3c140069rdbb9822e9b29699f@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0906231737y5718ee2ldb31fb9346d0a7a1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b0906231737y5718ee2ldb31fb9346d0a7a1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 8c20965b-20c7-4a4a-8946-cd58dae1af33 X-Archives-Hash: a227e46e2cdf3b330f56d6b3145a68d1 Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> On 06/24/2009 03:06 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >>> [...] >>> Family gets no MythTV for a few days, or maybe forever? >>> >>> I'm trying to mask things to check this and emerge is really mad at me. >>> >> As a last attempt at damage control, try the full update anyway. Remove >> "fglrx" from VIDEO_CARDS and replace it with "radeon" (I assume you have a >> Radeon card?) Delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see what happens. Maybe the >> recent xorg driver for Radeons supports the S-Video port of your card >> correctly. At least that's what I'm seeing while googling for >> "xf86-video-ati S-Video". >> >> > > My, you are an optimistic fellow! OK, that's an idea, but I'll wait > and do a little more browsing on the subject. All the threads I'm > finding in Google start off with this feature NOT working. > > I think I'd do better to create some sort of personal overlay - over > which I know little about - and try to get the files I need in there, > as there is no guarantee that anything new supports this requirement. > > Of course, if I had a job and earned money then I could solve the > problem that way, but I'm out of work, broke and cannot even think > about going down that path. > > > This is the section I have for masking the new xorg and its little friends. As a last resort, maybe this will help. # ######## xorg-server masking ######### >=x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r4 =x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.3.2 =x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.1.3 =x11-proto/printproto-1.0.4 =x11-proto/renderproto-0.9.3 =x11-libs/libXrender-0.9.4 That has worked for me but I do have a nvidia card. You may have to add a couple things to this list. I'm still running the old xorg so far tho. From what I have read, you can emerge xorg with the evdev USE flag disabled and it should work the old way. Don't hold me to that because I have not tried it. As far as Gentoo removing files during a upgrade, it has to remove old files. I can't tell you how many people complain if a old file gets left behind during a upgrade. It can also cause problems if the old file is not compatible with the new packages. Gentoo doesn't do one thing for you, it doesn't hold your hand. If you break something, you get to keep the pieces. Backups, saving binary packages and other little tricks are always good to do. I do both backups and saving binary packages. Hope that helps or at least gives you another option to play with. Dale :-) :-)