[gentoo-user] alternatives to 2008.0 live-install CD

[gentoo-user] alternatives to 2008.0 live-install CD

[Maxim Wexler]

Hi group,

I was intending to use the 2008.0 live-install CD as a chroot platform
on a 900A EEE. Gentoo refers to the 2008.0 series as 'deprecated'. For
good reason: there's no ppp, no atheros wifi or eth0 support, BUT it
has lvm2 which I need. This makes it much more difficult, since I
cannot even connect to the PC let alone dial out or connect
wirelessly.

Can somebody recommend an alternative, preferably non-debian; I have
had no success with several versions of that particular OS. Support
for my wireless hardware is included but attempts to connect always
lead to IIRC "no persistent database" errors, even on completely
insecure networks.

Maxim.

Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to 2008.0 live-install CD

[KH]

Maxim Wexler schrieb:
> Hi group,
> 
> I was intending to use the 2008.0 live-install CD as a chroot platform
> on a 900A EEE. Gentoo refers to the 2008.0 series as 'deprecated'. For
> good reason: there's no ppp, no atheros wifi or eth0 support, BUT it
> has lvm2 which I need. This makes it much more difficult, since I
> cannot even connect to the PC let alone dial out or connect
> wirelessly.
> 
> Can somebody recommend an alternative, preferably non-debian; I have
> had no success with several versions of that particular OS. Support
> for my wireless hardware is included but attempts to connect always
> lead to IIRC "no persistent database" errors, even on completely
> insecure networks.
> 
> Maxim.
> 

Hi Maxim,

I know there is a gentoo auto build cd but I don't know if it supports
your hardware as you need it. It might be worth a try.

http://gentoo.osuosl.org/releases/x86/autobuilds/

kh

Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to 2008.0 live-install CD

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 31 May 2009 13:38:59 -0600, Maxim Wexler wrote:

> Can somebody recommend an alternative, preferably non-debian; I have
> had no success with several versions of that particular OS. Support
> for my wireless hardware is included but attempts to connect always
> lead to IIRC "no persistent database" errors, even on completely
> insecure networks.

I used an eexubuntu stick, but I didn't use wireless for the
installation. Can you use the wired interface?

Of course, both the wired and wireless interfaces are now supported by the
kernel, so the latest auto-build may be suitable.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

deja noo - reminds you of the last time you visited Scotland

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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to 2008.0 live-install CD

[Maxim Wexler]

>
> Of course, both the wired and wireless interfaces are now supported by the
> kernel, so the latest auto-build may be suitable.
>
>
> --
> Neil Bothwick


Hmm, how difficult is it cobble together an iso out of these? Afterall
we don't need CDs anymore. Some kind of script would be cool.

Matter-of-fact I still have the tarballs from my present install and
they're just a ~month old.

Maybe if I google for isobuilder, say...

Maxim

Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to 2008.0 live-install CD

[Dale]

Maxim Wexler wrote:
>> Of course, both the wired and wireless interfaces are now supported by the
>> kernel, so the latest auto-build may be suitable.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Neil Bothwick
>>     
>
>
> Hmm, how difficult is it cobble together an iso out of these? Afterall
> we don't need CDs anymore. Some kind of script would be cool.
>
> Matter-of-fact I still have the tarballs from my present install and
> they're just a ~month old.
>
> Maybe if I google for isobuilder, say...
>
> Maxim
>
>
>   

Or try eix iso.  I found this:

* rox-extra/roxiso
     Available versions:  061007-r1
     Homepage:            http://kymatica.com/index.php/Software
     Description:         RoxISO. A graphical frontend to mkisofs and
cdrecord.


Does that make a iso file?

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to 2008.0 live-install CD

[Maxim Wexler]

> * rox-extra/roxiso
>      Available versions:  061007-r1
>      Homepage:            http://kymatica.com/index.php/Software
>      Description:         RoxISO. A graphical frontend to mkisofs and
> cdrecord.
>
>
> Does that make a iso file?

Drag and drop to the RoxISO gui.  It gives me errors wherever it finds
a busted link ie flashing white chars on a red bkground. I'm
discovering there are lots of them on my system. In weird far away
dirs where I've never been before. Eg /etc/ssl/certs. I dragged over
/boot and it complained it couldn't find menu.lst. So I deleted the
blinking link and tried again. This time it just flagged it with a red
stop sign icon and the word ERROR, no further explanation. So getting
rid of the busted link doesn't help ;(

Maxim

Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to 2008.0 live-install CD

[Maxim Wexler]

Here's something, fireballiso. Anybody used this? Gentoo-like, but
it's not in portage.

On 5/31/09, Maxim Wexler <maxim.wexler@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Of course, both the wired and wireless interfaces are now supported by
>> the
>> kernel, so the latest auto-build may be suitable.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Neil Bothwick
>
>
> Hmm, how difficult is it cobble together an iso out of these? Afterall
> we don't need CDs anymore. Some kind of script would be cool.
>
> Matter-of-fact I still have the tarballs from my present install and
> they're just a ~month old.
>
> Maybe if I google for isobuilder, say...
>
> Maxim
>

Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to 2008.0 live-install CD

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 31 May 2009 18:07:18 -0600, Maxim Wexler wrote:

> > Of course, both the wired and wireless interfaces are now supported
> > by the kernel, so the latest auto-build may be suitable.

> Hmm, how difficult is it cobble together an iso out of these? Afterall
> we don't need CDs anymore. Some kind of script would be cool.

Err, click on an link and the ISO downloads, it's not difficult at all.

http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/gentoo/releases/x86/autobuilds/20090526/install-x86-minimal-20090526.iso

Or use System Rescue CD as mentioned elsewhere. GRML would be fine too as
it has an option to install to a USB stick.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

"An investment in knowledge always pays the best interest." - Benjamin
Franklin

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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to 2008.0 live-install CD

[Maxim Wexler]

> Err, click on an link and the ISO downloads, it's not difficult at all.
>
> http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/gentoo/releases/x86/autobuilds/20090526/install-x86-minimal-20090526.iso

be nice if gentoo.org -> get gentoo lead to the new stuff.

mw

Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to 2008.0 live-install CD

[Daniel Pielmeier]

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Maxim Wexler schrieb am 01.06.2009 18:45:
>> Err, click on an link and the ISO downloads, it's not difficult at all.
>>
>> http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/gentoo/releases/x86/autobuilds/20090526/install-x86-minimal-20090526.iso
> 
> be nice if gentoo.org -> get gentoo lead to the new stuff.
> 
> mw
> 
> 

Did you take a look at the page[1]?

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml

-- 
Daniel Pielmeier


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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to 2008.0 live-install CD

[Maxim Wexler]

I'm looking at it now. Why? There's nothing new there unless it's some
link I haven't clicked yet.

On 6/1/09, Daniel Pielmeier <daniel.pielmeier@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Maxim Wexler schrieb am 01.06.2009 18:45:
>>> Err, click on an link and the ISO downloads, it's not difficult at all.
>>>
>>> http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/gentoo/releases/x86/autobuilds/20090526/install-x86-minimal-20090526.iso
>>
>> be nice if gentoo.org -> get gentoo lead to the new stuff.
>>
>> mw
>>
>>
>
> Did you take a look at the page[1]?
>
> [1] http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml
>
> --
> Daniel Pielmeier
>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to 2008.0 live-install CD

[Maxim Wexler]

> I'm looking at it now. Why? There's nothing new there unless it's some
> link I haven't clicked yet.

Oops, top-post! Top-post!

Haven't quite got the hang of this gmail thingee yet.

Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to 2008.0 live-install CD

[Daniel Pielmeier]

2009/6/2 Maxim Wexler <maxim.wexler@gmail.com>:
> I'm looking at it now. Why? There's nothing new there unless it's some
> link I haven't clicked yet.
>

Okay?

from http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml:

1.  Release Information

Descriptions, release notes, roadmaps, sub-projects and a list of the
Gentoo Developers who work on the Gentoo release media can all be
found on our Release Engineering Project page.

Please consult our Gentoo Handbooks for more information on what to
download and how to install Gentoo.

Downloading Gentoo Linux

Gentoo Linux is available free over the Internet. You can download
Gentoo Linux from the appropriate iso and architecture link below or,
if you prefer BitTorrent, you may see a list of available torrents at
torrents.gentoo.org.

Gentoo Minimal Install CD and Stages

Our Release Engineering team provides minimal install CDs and stages
on a weekly basis. You can find these releases on any of our mirrors
in /releases/<arch>/current/. Not every architecture is updated on the
same day.

Since these releases are built automatically by Release Engineering
servers, there is some chance that a stage or CD may not be produced
for a given week. When this happens, just use the latest CD and stage
available. More releases are available on our mirrors in
/releases/<arch>/autobuilds/. Use this directory if there isn't
anything recent enough in current/.

_alpha amd64 hppa ia64 ppc sparc x86_ <----------- Here are the links
for the latest autobuilds and stages! I guess this is what you want!?

If you prefer to select a local mirror yourself, they are listed at
www.gentoo.org/main/en/mirrors.xml.

Please consult our Gentoo Handbooks for more information on what to
download and how to install Gentoo.



-- 
Daniel Pielmeier

Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to 2008.0 live-install CD

[Dale]

Maxim Wexler wrote:
> Hi group,
>
> I was intending to use the 2008.0 live-install CD as a chroot platform
> on a 900A EEE. Gentoo refers to the 2008.0 series as 'deprecated'. For
> good reason: there's no ppp, no atheros wifi or eth0 support, BUT it
> has lvm2 which I need. This makes it much more difficult, since I
> cannot even connect to the PC let alone dial out or connect
> wirelessly.
>
> Can somebody recommend an alternative, preferably non-debian; I have
> had no success with several versions of that particular OS. Support
> for my wireless hardware is included but attempts to connect always
> lead to IIRC "no persistent database" errors, even on completely
> insecure networks.
>
> Maxim.
>
>
>   

Can you use a Knoppix CD to install from?  I have read that it works
fine but not sure if it has your drivers or not tho. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to 2008.0 live-install CD

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Sonntag, 31. Mai 2009 21:38:59 schrieb Maxim Wexler:
> Can somebody recommend an alternative, preferably non-debian;

Did you try GRML? That's what I usually use.

HTH...

	Dirk

Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to 2008.0 live-install CD

[Maxim Wexler]

On 5/31/09, Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs@online.de> wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 31. Mai 2009 21:38:59 schrieb Maxim Wexler:
>> Can somebody recommend an alternative, preferably non-debian;
>
> Did you try GRML? That's what I usually use.
>
> HTH...
>
> 	Dirk

Well, it's debian. And uses the 2.6.18 kernel. How do you use it? It
must have wifi capability with a few simple commands. I don't have the
battery power to spin my wheels while I try to write some conf file I
know nothing about.

Maxim.

Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to 2008.0 live-install CD

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Montag, 1. Juni 2009 04:10:25 schrieb Maxim Wexler:
> On 5/31/09, Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs@online.de> wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, 31. Mai 2009 21:38:59 schrieb Maxim Wexler:
> >> Can somebody recommend an alternative, preferably non-debian;
> >
> > Did you try GRML? That's what I usually use.
> >
> Well, it's debian. And uses the 2.6.18 kernel.

According to the 2009.05 release notes it uses 2.6.28.10.

> How do you use it? It
> must have wifi capability with a few simple commands.

Didn't use it with WiFi, yet. However, it comes with a simple, dialog based 
network setup tool, which also listed my wireless device. Did you check 
http://wiki.grml.org:80/doku.php?id=wlan?

Bye...

	Dirk

Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to 2008.0 live-install CD

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Sonntag 31 Mai 2009, Maxim Wexler wrote:
> Hi group,
>
> I was intending to use the 2008.0 live-install CD as a chroot platform
> on a 900A EEE. Gentoo refers to the 2008.0 series as 'deprecated'. For
> good reason: there's no ppp, no atheros wifi or eth0 support, BUT it
> has lvm2 which I need. This makes it much more difficult, since I
> cannot even connect to the PC let alone dial out or connect
> wirelessly.
>
> Can somebody recommend an alternative, preferably non-debian; I have
> had no success with several versions of that particular OS. Support
> for my wireless hardware is included but attempts to connect always
> lead to IIRC "no persistent database" errors, even on completely
> insecure networks.
>
> Maxim.

systemrescuecd

as bonus: it is gentoo based.

Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to 2008.0 live-install CD

[Albert Hopkins]

I usually use RIPLinux on a stick.

http://www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/looplinux/rip/