From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M7r5x-0005NL-H5 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 23 May 2009 13:17:01 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 02BA9E022B; Sat, 23 May 2009 13:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f176.google.com (mail-gx0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9682E022B for ; Sat, 23 May 2009 13:16:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so1642434gxk.10 for ; Sat, 23 May 2009 06:16:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=a2skqRtRV2EoWIPFXMJySxGPTNez81P8/AiHoeh5GxE=; b=umryq+B0RB8lwlBWWec2uGo5d7n7+LJd2TgmqgC7aFnsB3UpBrlbn5HuEinNr8nKv+ 8P3cTbRiubuuFMtpTGAtfGq5HDLmhIhRiR6qldq5GFawX4+My1KMZXLMJ011klSoumWI 9ZqQbbqMcv0G1aU+01IhZe/uHgUrbEqKlWBjc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jlQkSHnKPLLGV0Zs+LKo8cEp/cytTRAZJxnb8837P7o0jd34B096mC0WRj13pyBHI2 LPgmHPgc5rJuSOS2th5xA9NaMRms6mDyjmIq2FdtVDHmex9riX2PpNin7G0/LtfnErPw 5uWT5YHKqHeKGn5AD00YEaALWUwC6DPRtN1yQ= Received: by 10.90.69.7 with SMTP id r7mr4222680aga.47.1243084618328; Sat, 23 May 2009 06:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?64.89.163.120? (r163h120.dixie-net.com [64.89.163.120]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm9919529agb.13.2009.05.23.06.16.55 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 23 May 2009 06:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A17F744.3050306@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 08:16:52 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090519 SeaMonkey/1.1.16 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python References: <983967.82330.qm@web51306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A17D9CB.5020205@gmail.com> <200905231433.08767.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200905231433.08767.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: cc221f65-b488-4a92-8636-d9f06816dbd8 X-Archives-Hash: d850725fedeaa1dc866b6a3278ca57cf Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Saturday 23 May 2009 13:52:13 Arttu V. wrote: > >> Note how binutils still is within the system set and gets the extra >> warning, while python doesn't get the special system set warning with >> the three exclamation marks? I.e., python *is no longer* in the system >> set, probably removed by the very change I gave a link for in previous >> email. >> >> AFAIK (haven't checked in portage code), buildsyspkg and such only >> work with the packages explicitly mentioned in the system set, so >> binutils is in, python is (nowadays) out -- and that probably explains >> also what is happening on your smoker. :) >> >> Anyone finding flaws in my theories or facts or observations that >> outright nullify them? :) >> > > No, I think you are right, and I think somebody cocked up badly. > > Examining the current profiles shows that portage and python were removed from > base, and python was included back in releases/2008.0/packages (amongst > others): > > profiles # grep -r 'sys-apps/portage' * | grep packages: > base/packages:#*>=sys-apps/portage-2.0.51.22 > default-linux/amd64/2007.0/packages:>=sys-apps/portage-2.1.2 > releases/2008.0/packages:>=sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.4 > selinux/packages:>=sys-apps/portage-2.0.49-r15 > selinux/2007.0/packages:>=sys-apps/portage-2.1.2 > profiles # grep -r 'dev-lang/python' * | grep packages: > base/packages:#*dev-lang/python > > I haven't followed this entire thread, so correct me if I'm wrong, but a > reasonable explanation might be: > > A Gentoo system needs a package manager, but it's doesn't have to be portage. > Solution: remove the hardcoded portage and python from base, include them > elsewhere and created new profiles for paludis and pkg-merge users. > > Except, python got omitted and there's no paludis (yet) > > If so, this is a bug and should be reported > > > You or the OP care to report it? If you need info from me, just let me know the commands. Dale :-) :-)