From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M6S0S-0007a8-Kb for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 19 May 2009 16:17:32 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B9388E019C; Tue, 19 May 2009 16:16:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from swip.net (mailfe08.tele2.it [212.247.154.237]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F156E019C for ; Tue, 19 May 2009 16:16:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Df-CyhU-2qcA:10 a=ndLHH9FKWgMA:10 a=44BDUlaFJiQkRjciIe5NBw==:17 a=xafnm8VDbBr72L9rm7UA:9 a=dAC9kKdGGBMRYr4mqVeGY8bqSmEA:4 Received: from [131.111.115.220] (account cxu-7bj-8gb@tele2.it [131.111.115.220] verified) by mailfe08.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.13) with ESMTPA id 1243713128 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 19 May 2009 18:16:52 +0200 Received-SPF: neutral receiver=mailfe08.swip.net; client-ip=131.111.115.220; envelope-from=brullonulla@gmail.com Message-ID: <4A12DD1F.9020504@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 17:23:59 +0100 From: bn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090429) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading from kernel 2.6.24-rc6 to latest kernel References: <4A09312E.9010007@gmail.com> <20090518181250.GF4740@ca.inter.net> <4A11C1B3.6080005@gmail.com> <200905190015.45172.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200905190015.45172.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: ce9dbffd-21f7-4ef4-af89-d31188b58c8c X-Archives-Hash: 73d49790a5657f60ea3437800737a6fc Alan McKinnon ha scritto: > On Monday 18 May 2009 22:14:43 bn wrote: >>> If you use Ubuntu, you've got to accept their eccentric & questionable >>> attitude to passwords, esp that they don't have a separate root password. >>> I find that a piece of cheap popularisation contrary to UNIX principles. > > Huh? > > The package you are talking about is sudo. Might I add that sudo follows the > grand time honoured tradition of the principle of least priviledge whereas su > does not? As far as I know it is not enough to just use sudo. When a GUI program requires admin privileges, it will usually ask the root password. On Ubuntu, it will instead "sudo" its privileges. That's the thing, I think Ubuntu patches its software to behave properly with its own sudo thing. But it's not a big deal, it's just a feature which made sense to me but I can live very happily also with the good old Unix way. m.