From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M54AQ-00054S-Ds for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 15 May 2009 20:38:06 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46293E054D; Fri, 15 May 2009 20:38:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from magrathea.ophidian.homeip.net (206-248-172-209.dsl.teksavvy.com [206.248.172.209]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32059E054D for ; Fri, 15 May 2009 20:38:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.100.60] (wsp05975341wss.cr.net.cable.rogers.com [24.235.117.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by magrathea.ophidian.homeip.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7618EE61F for ; Fri, 15 May 2009 16:38:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4A0DD2AB.3070801@ophidian.homeip.net> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:38:03 -0400 From: Aaron Clark User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090320) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 References: <200904070939.57495.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <200905151857.57941.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <4A0DCB17.30408@coolmail.se> <200905152224.25192.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <200905152224.25192.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 7707db8c-679d-46d7-b6ed-71a3fe5fc904 X-Archives-Hash: c79db8f78fa597fbb3cb764776eb8759 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Freitag 15 Mai 2009, pk wrote: >> Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> DeviceKit isn't even in portage yet and not many packages support it. I >>> don't even know if the devs will change and improve the configs much, if >>> at all. The problem with hal is that it's code base is a mess, and it's >>> design is a mish- mash of stuff throwwn together. At least, that's what >>> the lead hal dev says >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DeviceKit#Dependencies >> >> I haven't looked into this in any depth but it seems like Devicekit will >> not be an improvement (looks like it brings in the "kitchen sink" in >> dependencies - I'm also "allergic" to gnome)... > > in my opinion a 'solution' that is based on the worst desktop (gnome) is the > worst possible 'solution'. What about kde users? what about xfce? fluxbox? > enlightenment users? > > Fedora screws everybody over. Like always. > Um... that dependencies list is the dependencies for the feature to get done for Fedora. I would be shocked if the HAL replacement is dependent on Nautilus. Honestly, most of the libraries on that list are stuff likely already in the LSB (which btw includes both gnome stuff as well as Qt and Phonon) so while it may not be in your system it's not crazy to depend on. Tone down the Gnome/Fedora hate. Aaron