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* [gentoo-user] NVidia setup instructions?
@ 2009-05-04 21:25 Mark Knecht
  2009-05-04 21:58 ` Brandon Vargo
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Mark Knecht @ 2009-05-04 21:25 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Hi,
   Is this the right page to follow for up-to-date installation
instructions for a 6200-based card?

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml

   If it is then is it at all out of date in terms of xorg.conf setup
for the newer xorg-server/hald setup, or is it OK?

Thanks,
Mark



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* Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia setup instructions?
  2009-05-04 21:25 [gentoo-user] NVidia setup instructions? Mark Knecht
@ 2009-05-04 21:58 ` Brandon Vargo
  2009-05-04 22:24   ` Mark Knecht
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Brandon Vargo @ 2009-05-04 21:58 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 14:25 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> Hi,
>    Is this the right page to follow for up-to-date installation
> instructions for a 6200-based card?
> 
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml
> 
>    If it is then is it at all out of date in terms of xorg.conf setup
> for the newer xorg-server/hald setup, or is it OK?

I have the PCI version of the 6200, and I can confirm that 180.29
(stable for my arch) work great as well as the vesa framebuffer. I had
problems with the uvesa framebuffer a few kernels back, and never got it
to work, though I haven't tried since.

The rest of the nvidia guide looks good, though I do not use the same
options as the guide for my xorg.conf configuration. For example, I've
never had to set the VideoRam option in the device section, and set
things such as NoLogo, RenderAccel, etc in the screen section. Take a
look at [1] for all the options. That's the amd64 version, though it
should be similar if not the same for other architectures.

I don't use hal, so I cannot comment on that.

I would recommend using the nvidia-xconfig utility to configure another
xorg.conf once you get a basic X display running. It works pretty well,
particularly regarding 3D settings and multiple monitors, so it's a good
starting point from which to customize.

[1]:
http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/180.29/README/appendix-b.html

Regards,

Brandon Vargo




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* Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia setup instructions?
  2009-05-04 21:58 ` Brandon Vargo
@ 2009-05-04 22:24   ` Mark Knecht
  2009-05-04 22:58     ` Brandon Vargo
  2009-05-04 23:07     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Mark Knecht @ 2009-05-04 22:24 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Brandon Vargo <brandon.vargo@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 14:25 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>> Hi,
>>    Is this the right page to follow for up-to-date installation
>> instructions for a 6200-based card?
>>
>> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml
>>
>>    If it is then is it at all out of date in terms of xorg.conf setup
>> for the newer xorg-server/hald setup, or is it OK?
>
> I have the PCI version of the 6200, and I can confirm that 180.29
> (stable for my arch) work great as well as the vesa framebuffer. I had
> problems with the uvesa framebuffer a few kernels back, and never got it
> to work, though I haven't tried since.
>
> The rest of the nvidia guide looks good, though I do not use the same
> options as the guide for my xorg.conf configuration. For example, I've
> never had to set the VideoRam option in the device section, and set
> things such as NoLogo, RenderAccel, etc in the screen section. Take a
> look at [1] for all the options. That's the amd64 version, though it
> should be similar if not the same for other architectures.
>
> I don't use hal, so I cannot comment on that.
>
> I would recommend using the nvidia-xconfig utility to configure another
> xorg.conf once you get a basic X display running. It works pretty well,
> particularly regarding 3D settings and multiple monitors, so it's a good
> starting point from which to customize.
>
> [1]:
> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/180.29/README/appendix-b.html
>
> Regards,
>
> Brandon Vargo

Thanks Brandon. I'm up in X now on the 6200 AGP so it's functional.
glxgears seems sort of slow at about 230FPS but I probably don't have
things set up right yet.

I had questions about the setup instructions as I went through it.

1) Do you completely drop out DRI support in the kernel? Seems this
document says not to load the dri driver in xconf and it wasn't shown
in the kernel options so I took it out. Maybe that should be enabled?

2) I used to have /dev/agpgart and framebuffer suppport as modular but
this setup doc seemed to go with built-in so I switched to that. I do
have the Intel chipset AGP GART support as modular and it does load
OK. Not sure if I should use that or NVidia's?

No problems getting the card up and running. Now it's a matter of
figuring out how to do it right. I am using hald but it wouldn't load
the nvidia driver automatically, opting for the nv driver. Do you have
that problem? Should I put it in modules.autoload?

Again, thanks for the pointers.

Cheers,
Mark



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* Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia setup instructions?
  2009-05-04 22:24   ` Mark Knecht
@ 2009-05-04 22:58     ` Brandon Vargo
  2009-05-04 23:07     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Brandon Vargo @ 2009-05-04 22:58 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 15:24 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> Thanks Brandon. I'm up in X now on the 6200 AGP so it's functional.
> glxgears seems sort of slow at about 230FPS but I probably don't have
> things set up right yet.
> 
> I had questions about the setup instructions as I went through it.
> 
> 1) Do you completely drop out DRI support in the kernel? Seems this
> document says not to load the dri driver in xconf and it wasn't shown
> in the kernel options so I took it out. Maybe that should be enabled?

I do not have direct rendering enabled in my kernel, and I have never
heard of it being needed for nvidia cards. The nvidia kernel module
takes care of that as far as I know.

> 2) I used to have /dev/agpgart and framebuffer suppport as modular but
> this setup doc seemed to go with built-in so I switched to that. I do
> have the Intel chipset AGP GART support as modular and it does load
> OK. Not sure if I should use that or NVidia's?

I have always compiled the framebuffer support into the kernel so that I
can use it for the console when the system starts booting, before any
modules are loaded. I've never tried to compile it as a module.
Regardless, if the module is going to be loaded anyways every time you
boot, and you don't have any special options to pass to the module, it's
usually best to compile into the kernel.

I'm not familiar with AGP, as my system does not support it, nor have I
ever used Intel graphics in conjunction with any other graphics chips,
sorry.

> No problems getting the card up and running. Now it's a matter of
> figuring out how to do it right. I am using hald but it wouldn't load
> the nvidia driver automatically, opting for the nv driver. Do you have
> that problem? Should I put it in modules.autoload?

I had this problem with a NVidia 9600 GSO in a machine I was setting up
as part of a computational cluster when trying to use X's
autoconfiguration (no xorg.conf at all). X would try to load the nv
driver, even though I had not even compiled it. Creating a simple
xorg.conf and specifying the nvidia driver in a device section loaded
the nvidia driver fine. modules.autoload should not be necessary. The
nvidia module should be automatically loaded when X starts with the
nvidia driver.

Regards,

Brandon Vargo




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* Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia setup instructions?
  2009-05-04 22:24   ` Mark Knecht
  2009-05-04 22:58     ` Brandon Vargo
@ 2009-05-04 23:07     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
  2009-05-04 23:16       ` Mark Knecht
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Volker Armin Hemmann @ 2009-05-04 23:07 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Dienstag 05 Mai 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Brandon Vargo <brandon.vargo@gmail.com> 
wrote:
> > On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 14:25 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>    Is this the right page to follow for up-to-date installation
> >> instructions for a 6200-based card?
> >>
> >> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml
> >>
> >>    If it is then is it at all out of date in terms of xorg.conf setup
> >> for the newer xorg-server/hald setup, or is it OK?
> >
> > I have the PCI version of the 6200, and I can confirm that 180.29
> > (stable for my arch) work great as well as the vesa framebuffer. I had
> > problems with the uvesa framebuffer a few kernels back, and never got it
> > to work, though I haven't tried since.
> >
> > The rest of the nvidia guide looks good, though I do not use the same
> > options as the guide for my xorg.conf configuration. For example, I've
> > never had to set the VideoRam option in the device section, and set
> > things such as NoLogo, RenderAccel, etc in the screen section. Take a
> > look at [1] for all the options. That's the amd64 version, though it
> > should be similar if not the same for other architectures.
> >
> > I don't use hal, so I cannot comment on that.
> >
> > I would recommend using the nvidia-xconfig utility to configure another
> > xorg.conf once you get a basic X display running. It works pretty well,
> > particularly regarding 3D settings and multiple monitors, so it's a good
> > starting point from which to customize.
> >
> > [1]:
> > http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/180.29/README/appendix
> >-b.html
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Brandon Vargo
>
> Thanks Brandon. I'm up in X now on the 6200 AGP so it's functional.
> glxgears seems sort of slow at about 230FPS but I probably don't have
> things set up right yet.
>
> I had questions about the setup instructions as I went through it.
>
> 1) Do you completely drop out DRI support in the kernel? Seems this
> document says not to load the dri driver in xconf and it wasn't shown
> in the kernel options so I took it out. Maybe that should be enabled?

no. Nvidia uses its own stuff. No need for dri in kernel.

>
> 2) I used to have /dev/agpgart and framebuffer suppport as modular but
> this setup doc seemed to go with built-in so I switched to that. I do
> have the Intel chipset AGP GART support as modular and it does load
> OK. Not sure if I should use that or NVidia's?

no, you should use the kernel agpgart. Nvagp is a remnant from former times 
when there were bugs with certain chipsets and agpgart versions. Times long 
gone. Even nvidia devs tell you on nvnews to use agpgart and only switch to 
nvagp if that really does not work.

>
> No problems getting the card up and running. Now it's a matter of
> figuring out how to do it right. I am using hald but it wouldn't load
> the nvidia driver automatically, opting for the nv driver. Do you have
> that problem? Should I put it in modules.autoload?

no. Just put the nvidia module in xorg.conf. Also make sure you set the right 
opengl version with eselect. At the end don't forget that the 6200 is a very 
slow card.

glxinfo and nvidia-settings can help you detect problems.




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* Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia setup instructions?
  2009-05-04 23:07     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
@ 2009-05-04 23:16       ` Mark Knecht
  2009-05-04 23:23         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Mark Knecht @ 2009-05-04 23:16 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
<volkerarmin@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Dienstag 05 Mai 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:
>> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Brandon Vargo <brandon.vargo@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> > On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 14:25 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>    Is this the right page to follow for up-to-date installation
>> >> instructions for a 6200-based card?
>> >>
>> >> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml
>> >>
>> >>    If it is then is it at all out of date in terms of xorg.conf setup
>> >> for the newer xorg-server/hald setup, or is it OK?
>> >
>> > I have the PCI version of the 6200, and I can confirm that 180.29
>> > (stable for my arch) work great as well as the vesa framebuffer. I had
>> > problems with the uvesa framebuffer a few kernels back, and never got it
>> > to work, though I haven't tried since.
>> >
>> > The rest of the nvidia guide looks good, though I do not use the same
>> > options as the guide for my xorg.conf configuration. For example, I've
>> > never had to set the VideoRam option in the device section, and set
>> > things such as NoLogo, RenderAccel, etc in the screen section. Take a
>> > look at [1] for all the options. That's the amd64 version, though it
>> > should be similar if not the same for other architectures.
>> >
>> > I don't use hal, so I cannot comment on that.
>> >
>> > I would recommend using the nvidia-xconfig utility to configure another
>> > xorg.conf once you get a basic X display running. It works pretty well,
>> > particularly regarding 3D settings and multiple monitors, so it's a good
>> > starting point from which to customize.
>> >
>> > [1]:
>> > http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/180.29/README/appendix
>> >-b.html
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Brandon Vargo
>>
>> Thanks Brandon. I'm up in X now on the 6200 AGP so it's functional.
>> glxgears seems sort of slow at about 230FPS but I probably don't have
>> things set up right yet.
>>
>> I had questions about the setup instructions as I went through it.
>>
>> 1) Do you completely drop out DRI support in the kernel? Seems this
>> document says not to load the dri driver in xconf and it wasn't shown
>> in the kernel options so I took it out. Maybe that should be enabled?
>
> no. Nvidia uses its own stuff. No need for dri in kernel.

Without DRI in the kernel I got an error message when running glxinfo
| grep direct.

Once I put nvidia in xorg.conf it loaded automatically. That seems
inconsistent with this new push to use hald and no xorg.conf.

>
>>
>> 2) I used to have /dev/agpgart and framebuffer suppport as modular but
>> this setup doc seemed to go with built-in so I switched to that. I do
>> have the Intel chipset AGP GART support as modular and it does load
>> OK. Not sure if I should use that or NVidia's?
>
> no, you should use the kernel agpgart. Nvagp is a remnant from former times
> when there were bugs with certain chipsets and agpgart versions. Times long
> gone. Even nvidia devs tell you on nvnews to use agpgart and only switch to
> nvagp if that really does not work.
>
>>
>> No problems getting the card up and running. Now it's a matter of
>> figuring out how to do it right. I am using hald but it wouldn't load
>> the nvidia driver automatically, opting for the nv driver. Do you have
>> that problem? Should I put it in modules.autoload?
>
> no. Just put the nvidia module in xorg.conf. Also make sure you set the right
> opengl version with eselect. At the end don't forget that the 6200 is a very
> slow card.

Very slow? Compared to a 9600? Yes. Compared to a Riva? No.

It's all relative. I just require it to work and play MythTV for my
wife. Nothing more.

>
> glxinfo and nvidia-settings can help you detect problems.
>

emerge word going on now. I'll try out nvidia-settings soon.

Thanks,
Mark



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* Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia setup instructions?
  2009-05-04 23:16       ` Mark Knecht
@ 2009-05-04 23:23         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
  2009-05-04 23:35           ` Mark Knecht
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Volker Armin Hemmann @ 2009-05-04 23:23 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Dienstag 05 Mai 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
>
> <volkerarmin@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > On Dienstag 05 Mai 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:
> >> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Brandon Vargo <brandon.vargo@gmail.com>
> >
> > wrote:
> >> > On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 14:25 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>    Is this the right page to follow for up-to-date installation
> >> >> instructions for a 6200-based card?
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml
> >> >>
> >> >>    If it is then is it at all out of date in terms of xorg.conf setup
> >> >> for the newer xorg-server/hald setup, or is it OK?
> >> >
> >> > I have the PCI version of the 6200, and I can confirm that 180.29
> >> > (stable for my arch) work great as well as the vesa framebuffer. I had
> >> > problems with the uvesa framebuffer a few kernels back, and never got
> >> > it to work, though I haven't tried since.
> >> >
> >> > The rest of the nvidia guide looks good, though I do not use the same
> >> > options as the guide for my xorg.conf configuration. For example, I've
> >> > never had to set the VideoRam option in the device section, and set
> >> > things such as NoLogo, RenderAccel, etc in the screen section. Take a
> >> > look at [1] for all the options. That's the amd64 version, though it
> >> > should be similar if not the same for other architectures.
> >> >
> >> > I don't use hal, so I cannot comment on that.
> >> >
> >> > I would recommend using the nvidia-xconfig utility to configure
> >> > another xorg.conf once you get a basic X display running. It works
> >> > pretty well, particularly regarding 3D settings and multiple monitors,
> >> > so it's a good starting point from which to customize.
> >> >
> >> > [1]:
> >> > http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/180.29/README/appen
> >> >dix -b.html
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Brandon Vargo
> >>
> >> Thanks Brandon. I'm up in X now on the 6200 AGP so it's functional.
> >> glxgears seems sort of slow at about 230FPS but I probably don't have
> >> things set up right yet.
> >>
> >> I had questions about the setup instructions as I went through it.
> >>
> >> 1) Do you completely drop out DRI support in the kernel? Seems this
> >> document says not to load the dri driver in xconf and it wasn't shown
> >> in the kernel options so I took it out. Maybe that should be enabled?
> >
> > no. Nvidia uses its own stuff. No need for dri in kernel.
>
> Without DRI in the kernel I got an error message when running glxinfo
>
> | grep direct.
>
> Once I put nvidia in xorg.conf it loaded automatically. That seems
> inconsistent with this new push to use hald and no xorg.conf.

you need to have consolekit running before X starts to have working direct 
rendering.




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* Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia setup instructions?
  2009-05-04 23:23         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
@ 2009-05-04 23:35           ` Mark Knecht
  2009-05-05  0:10             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Mark Knecht @ 2009-05-04 23:35 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
<volkerarmin@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Dienstag 05 Mai 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:
<SNIP>
>> >> Thanks Brandon. I'm up in X now on the 6200 AGP so it's functional.
>> >> glxgears seems sort of slow at about 230FPS but I probably don't have
>> >> things set up right yet.
>> >>
>> >> I had questions about the setup instructions as I went through it.
>> >>
>> >> 1) Do you completely drop out DRI support in the kernel? Seems this
>> >> document says not to load the dri driver in xconf and it wasn't shown
>> >> in the kernel options so I took it out. Maybe that should be enabled?
>> >
>> > no. Nvidia uses its own stuff. No need for dri in kernel.
>>
>> Without DRI in the kernel I got an error message when running glxinfo
>>
>> | grep direct.
>>
>> Once I put nvidia in xorg.conf it loaded automatically. That seems
>> inconsistent with this new push to use hald and no xorg.conf.
>
> you need to have consolekit running before X starts to have working direct
> rendering.
>

The Gentoo page I am following makes no mention of 'consolekit':

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml

It is installed but it's not set in rc-update to run at all. Should
this be boot or default?

dragonfly ~ # eix -I consolekit
[I] sys-auth/consolekit
     Available versions:  0.2.3 0.2.10 ~0.2.10-r1 ~0.3.0 ~0.3.0-r1
{debug doc pam policykit}
     Installed versions:  0.2.10(02:17:12 PM 04/20/2009)(pam -debug)
     Homepage:            http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit
     Description:         Framework for defining and tracking users,
login sessions and seats.

dragonfly ~ #

Thanks,
Mark



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* Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia setup instructions?
  2009-05-04 23:35           ` Mark Knecht
@ 2009-05-05  0:10             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
  2009-05-05  0:31               ` Mark Knecht
  2009-05-06 15:56               ` [gentoo-user] " 7v5w7go9ub0o
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Volker Armin Hemmann @ 2009-05-05  0:10 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Dienstag 05 Mai 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
>
> <volkerarmin@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > On Dienstag 05 Mai 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
> <SNIP>
>
> >> >> Thanks Brandon. I'm up in X now on the 6200 AGP so it's functional.
> >> >> glxgears seems sort of slow at about 230FPS but I probably don't have
> >> >> things set up right yet.
> >> >>
> >> >> I had questions about the setup instructions as I went through it.
> >> >>
> >> >> 1) Do you completely drop out DRI support in the kernel? Seems this
> >> >> document says not to load the dri driver in xconf and it wasn't shown
> >> >> in the kernel options so I took it out. Maybe that should be enabled?
> >> >
> >> > no. Nvidia uses its own stuff. No need for dri in kernel.
> >>
> >> Without DRI in the kernel I got an error message when running glxinfo
> >>
> >> | grep direct.
> >>
> >> Once I put nvidia in xorg.conf it loaded automatically. That seems
> >> inconsistent with this new push to use hald and no xorg.conf.
> >
> > you need to have consolekit running before X starts to have working
> > direct rendering.
>
> The Gentoo page I am following makes no mention of 'consolekit':
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml
>
> It is installed but it's not set in rc-update to run at all. Should
> this be boot or default?
>
> dragonfly ~ # eix -I consolekit
> [I] sys-auth/consolekit
>      Available versions:  0.2.3 0.2.10 ~0.2.10-r1 ~0.3.0 ~0.3.0-r1
> {debug doc pam policykit}
>      Installed versions:  0.2.10(02:17:12 PM 04/20/2009)(pam -debug)
>      Homepage:           
> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit Description:        
> Framework for defining and tracking users, login sessions and seats.
>
> dragonfly ~ #
>
> Thanks,
> Mark

default. And it is a recent development.




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* Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia setup instructions?
  2009-05-05  0:10             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
@ 2009-05-05  0:31               ` Mark Knecht
  2009-05-06 15:56               ` [gentoo-user] " 7v5w7go9ub0o
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Mark Knecht @ 2009-05-05  0:31 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
<volkerarmin@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Dienstag 05 Mai 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:
>> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
>>
>> <volkerarmin@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> > On Dienstag 05 Mai 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:
>>
>> <SNIP>
>>
>> >> >> Thanks Brandon. I'm up in X now on the 6200 AGP so it's functional.
>> >> >> glxgears seems sort of slow at about 230FPS but I probably don't have
>> >> >> things set up right yet.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I had questions about the setup instructions as I went through it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 1) Do you completely drop out DRI support in the kernel? Seems this
>> >> >> document says not to load the dri driver in xconf and it wasn't shown
>> >> >> in the kernel options so I took it out. Maybe that should be enabled?
>> >> >
>> >> > no. Nvidia uses its own stuff. No need for dri in kernel.
>> >>
>> >> Without DRI in the kernel I got an error message when running glxinfo
>> >>
>> >> | grep direct.
>> >>
>> >> Once I put nvidia in xorg.conf it loaded automatically. That seems
>> >> inconsistent with this new push to use hald and no xorg.conf.
>> >
>> > you need to have consolekit running before X starts to have working
>> > direct rendering.
>>
>> The Gentoo page I am following makes no mention of 'consolekit':
>>
>> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml
>>
>> It is installed but it's not set in rc-update to run at all. Should
>> this be boot or default?
>>
>> dragonfly ~ # eix -I consolekit
>> [I] sys-auth/consolekit
>>      Available versions:  0.2.3 0.2.10 ~0.2.10-r1 ~0.3.0 ~0.3.0-r1
>> {debug doc pam policykit}
>>      Installed versions:  0.2.10(02:17:12 PM 04/20/2009)(pam -debug)
>>      Homepage:
>> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit Description:
>> Framework for defining and tracking users, login sessions and seats.
>>
>> dragonfly ~ #
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
>
> default. And it is a recent development.
>

Thanks. glxgears now does 2500FPS instead of 230 so that's a nice improvement.

MythTV once again works after the Intel driver got messed up forcing
me to switch to a newer card.

WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) once again high after a 3 week low point
in her years on Gentoo.

I appreciate your help,
Mark



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* [gentoo-user] Re: NVidia setup instructions?
  2009-05-05  0:10             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
  2009-05-05  0:31               ` Mark Knecht
@ 2009-05-06 15:56               ` 7v5w7go9ub0o
  2009-05-06 16:42                 ` Dale
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: 7v5w7go9ub0o @ 2009-05-06 15:56 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Dienstag 05 Mai 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:
>> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
>>
>> <volkerarmin@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> On Dienstag 05 Mai 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:
>> <SNIP>
>>
>>>>>> Thanks Brandon. I'm up in X now on the 6200 AGP so it's functional.
>>>>>> glxgears seems sort of slow at about 230FPS but I probably don't have
>>>>>> things set up right yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had questions about the setup instructions as I went through it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Do you completely drop out DRI support in the kernel? Seems this
>>>>>> document says not to load the dri driver in xconf and it wasn't shown
>>>>>> in the kernel options so I took it out. Maybe that should be enabled?
>>>>> no. Nvidia uses its own stuff. No need for dri in kernel.
>>>> Without DRI in the kernel I got an error message when running glxinfo
>>>>
>>>> | grep direct.
>>>>
>>>> Once I put nvidia in xorg.conf it loaded automatically. That seems
>>>> inconsistent with this new push to use hald and no xorg.conf.
>>> you need to have consolekit running before X starts to have working
>>> direct rendering.
>> The Gentoo page I am following makes no mention of 'consolekit':
>>
>> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml
>>
>> It is installed but it's not set in rc-update to run at all. Should
>> this be boot or default?
>>
>> dragonfly ~ # eix -I consolekit
>> [I] sys-auth/consolekit
>>      Available versions:  0.2.3 0.2.10 ~0.2.10-r1 ~0.3.0 ~0.3.0-r1
>> {debug doc pam policykit}
>>      Installed versions:  0.2.10(02:17:12 PM 04/20/2009)(pam -debug)
>>      Homepage:           
>> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit Description:        
>> Framework for defining and tracking users, login sessions and seats.
>>
>> dragonfly ~ #
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
> 
> default. And it is a recent development.


FWICT,  NVidia 180.51 appears to be working on this box without the
consolekit.

"# glxinfo | grep direct
direct rendering: Yes
     GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test, GL_EXT_direct_state_access,"

nvidia is masked on my hardened overlay/AMD64; on a lark tried the ".run"
script available at the nvidia site.

HTH



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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: NVidia setup instructions?
  2009-05-06 15:56               ` [gentoo-user] " 7v5w7go9ub0o
@ 2009-05-06 16:42                 ` Dale
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2009-05-06 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

7v5w7go9ub0o wrote:
>
>
> FWICT,  NVidia 180.51 appears to be working on this box without the
> consolekit.
>
> "# glxinfo | grep direct
> direct rendering: Yes
>     GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test, GL_EXT_direct_state_access,"
>
> nvidia is masked on my hardened overlay/AMD64; on a lark tried the ".run"
> script available at the nvidia site.
>
> HTH
>
>

Don't know if this info will help or not but while consolekit is
installed, the service is not running on my box.  I have a older FX-5200
card that works well for me. 

root@smoker / # equery list nvidia
[ Searching for package 'nvidia' in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
[I--] [  ] media-video/nvidia-settings-180.29 (0)
[I--] [  ] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-173.14.09 (0)
root@smoker / #

Also note, this is the latest that will work on my card.  I think it is
the ONLY version of driver that works with this card.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



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