From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MY7GB-00019F-Vm for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:48:08 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F702E04DE; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 23:48:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.242]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77DFE04DE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 23:48:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d40so4747602and.1 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:48:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jm3qN5JcM4TS2Q45ZgtXYTantnYgTNYrfeWoMmXd+Ag=; b=qY3P4tRQt7otbLW4fH8kyRBQUxD6pXsLfLhZybmgJJ9XemnQ+XNlY3EorkNzIEsgKc 8nFPEeB0DiIn+d1U4BUxYCP2oViZC540I70R/P7jKHtS9Pf713Nt5sMeQoGMSpPTAKh5 VVdX9JeTjeCrejaUjVr5SlRNkpcCzDWLR7cbE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MLa508n/nXDba51UWVB5ZyEgtcijWJGdMfDuZ3rYUaYtro+zz8IDmYGAE0RqAJWTMk hXsPm4DIg7hgQoWJWheND4iH1do304oh2nCvl1F5w9YFlsRes0ybtha2yOapk/PDYieS BeJyl5xyEIZcHSTW1Em4dGiPaFGMLb/n4vMyY= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.5.9 with SMTP id 9mr7907068ane.45.1249343286638; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:48:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <58965d8a0908031405g1cf04cbarc77d588072fdbe89@mail.gmail.com> References: <49bf44f10908031322y2b06b5ffx76ecb27092b9edfa@mail.gmail.com> <58965d8a0908031405g1cf04cbarc77d588072fdbe89@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:48:06 -0700 Message-ID: <49bf44f10908031648g65d405b0i78beead0ea0b8ab9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody tried shake defragmenter? From: Grant To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 1caeceaa-575d-493b-940f-f28518ca4c5f X-Archives-Hash: 93e80fef7c2ed0d8efd3a8e1481e1c89 >> I know Linux systems aren't supposed to become fragmented, but I've >> also read that it can happen eventually. =A0I'm on ext3. =A0I've read th= at >> ext4 will have a defragmenter but that it doesn't have one yet. > > It's not that they aren't supposed to become fragmented, it is that > they try to avoid it. There is a big difference, and things like > streaming writes (downloads, bittorrents, etc) can cause extreme > fragmentation. Yeah, that's when I'm hearing the HD access I didn't hear before. I run miro and it's downloading several torrents all the time. It never made a sound before, but now there's a rhythmic grinding sound when miro is running, maybe because the HD is more full now. Could shake help with this? To find out, should I be running it on the partially downloaded torrents? - Grant > The time-honored way of fixing this is "backup, delete, restore". In > my case my simple defragmenter is to move a file to tmpfs and then > move it back to the hard drive. I always do this to files I'm about to > burn to a CD/DVD to ensure the read speed is optimal. > >> Has anyone tried the shake defragmenter? > > Yes, nothing has blown up yet. :)