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From: Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] cnn.com flash videos crash firefox
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:38:13 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49bf44f10902020838l1e7e8102p672c400ffa573ef9@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4986EF72.2090003@gmail.com>

>>>>>> Oh I get it, the computer doesn't want me to see the Obama video.  Yes
>>>>>> that's funny.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, what an intelligent machine you've got ;-p
>>>>> Did it already point you to Tarpley's biography about Hussein Obama ?
>>>>> Or to Obma's connections to Brezinski (the one who wants to get
>>>>> China into war against Russia) ?
>>>>>
>>>> What could there be that wasn't already exposed during a very long
>>>> election campaign?
>>>>
>>> IT WAS HUSHED UP BY TEH LIBERAL MEDIA!!!
>>>
>>> WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Just a honest question from Germany:
>>
>> Which ones are the liberal medias overseas?
>>
>> Since from here I wouldn't call anything I know liberal, let alone
>> anything progressive...
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>
> If you mean liberal in the USA, NBC being the most, then CNN, CBS and
> ABC.  CNN and CBS are about the same and ABC is somewhat better.
> According to some media research folks, BBC is left leaning as well.  I
> have watched it a few times and saw no reason to disagree.
>
> The hard part is finding a source for the facts so a person can make
> their own decisions.  For years, CNN, CBS and friends was all we had
> then along came Fox.  The old media seemed to think the people are all
> stupid and needed someone to make decisions for them instead of
> realizing that most Americans are smart enough to do their own
> thinking.  Of course, that is also why Fox has more viewers than CNN,
> MSNBC and the rest combined.
>
> Hope that answered your question.

I don't think we should pretend that our own views don't scew our
perception of not only what is true, but also what is fair and
balanced.  I'm a liberal fellow and although NBC and CNN do seem
liberal to me, I still perceive them to be a good source of news
facts.  ABC seems only very slightly to the left, and Fox seems so far
to the right it's ridiculous.  These aren't evaluations of truthiness,
but of fairness.  Dale obviously disagrees.  The point is that no one
is actually a good judge of truth *or* fairness.

As for why Fox has "more" (let's say the same number of) viewers as
the rest of the networks, I think you stated the reason exactly:

"For years, CNN, CBS and friends was all we had then along came Fox."

Conservative folks don't have any other choice, and the US seems to be
pretty split in half as far as Democrats/Republicans if elections
results are any indication.

- Grant



  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-02 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-22  3:07 [gentoo-user] cnn.com flash videos crash firefox Grant
2009-01-22  3:47 ` Shawn Haggett
2009-01-22 10:39   ` KH
2009-01-22 14:59 ` Stroller
2009-01-22 15:19   ` Grant
2009-01-22 15:48     ` Mark Knecht
2009-01-22 16:34       ` Grant
2009-01-22 16:48         ` Mark Knecht
2009-01-22 16:05   ` Norberto Bensa
2009-01-22 16:24   ` Grant
2009-01-30 14:01     ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-01-31 22:54       ` Grant
2009-01-31 23:22         ` Stroller
2009-01-31 23:34           ` Grant
2009-01-31 23:41             ` Stroller
2009-02-01  0:18             ` Dale
2009-02-01  0:54               ` Grant
2009-02-01  1:18                 ` Dale
2009-02-01  1:42                   ` Grant
2009-02-02  2:36               ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-02-02  4:51                 ` Dale
2009-02-26  9:21                   ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-02-26  9:33                     ` Dale
2009-02-26 10:02                       ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-02-26 10:06                     ` Mike Kazantsev
2009-02-26 10:12                       ` Dale
2009-02-02  2:37             ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-02-02 10:36           ` Sebastian Günther
2009-02-02 13:04             ` Dale
2009-02-02 16:38               ` Grant [this message]
2009-02-02 17:04                 ` Dale
2009-02-02 17:12                   ` Mark Knecht
2009-02-03  1:48                     ` Grant
2009-02-26  9:50                   ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-02-26 10:32               ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-02-26 13:55                 ` KH
2009-02-26 15:21                 ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-02  2:39         ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-02-05 15:59           ` Grant
2009-02-26  9:30             ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-01-22 16:15 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2009-01-22 16:56 ` [gentoo-user] " Paul Hartman
2009-01-22 17:01   ` Norberto Bensa
2009-01-22 18:20   ` Grant
2009-01-22 19:23     ` Grant
2009-01-22 20:10     ` Paul Hartman
2009-01-23  3:06       ` Grant
2009-01-23 14:41         ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2009-01-23 14:46           ` Grant

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